Louis van Gaal | Manchester United manager

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Ripping up the grass for a better system, installing floodlights for winter afternoon training. Only positives in my book, our facilities should be among the best in the world, give him what he wants.
 
Leg-End said:
Ripping up the grass for a better system, installing floodlights for winter afternoon training. Only positives in my book, our facilities should be among the best in the world, give him what he wants.
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Exactly what I thought when I read the article. Ring in the changes!
 
KiD MoYeS said:
The tweet doesn't imply its not.
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Didn't say it did, just stating a fact. 4 pitches would suggest he's upgrading the U21's and below as well, first team usually only train on a couple of those pitches.
 
That sun headline tried to get people to bite but I don't see the problem.
 
Empire said:
As in, he is willing to listen to reason? Although it could be Louis who suggested 5-3-2 or Robben, either way they both probably agreed on it.

I think he is like any top manager and at that, any top leader. He is incredibly stubborn for this is an admirable quality especially when he knows something to be true that everybody else is telling him to be false however once faced with a compelling case he will yield to truth. Above all else he wants victory therefore without a doubt if somebody provides a compelling case his mind will be changed, it's not about him being right but about making the right decision.

I've not got too many concerns at this moment regarding him moving United forward.
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There was an additional report on how LVG is willing to listen to his players so while he is stubborn on some things, it's not like he's completely uncompromising.
 
Leg-End said:
Ripping up the grass for a better system, installing floodlights for winter afternoon training. Only positives in my book, our facilities should be among the best in the world, give him what he wants.
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I like to think this is the true range of experience Van Gaal has had coming into effect.

God I hope he hasn't lost his mojo...
 
Apparently United fans are sending his daughter messages on twitter, things like asking him to buy Toni Kroos.

They should just leave her alone or she should change her twitter name.
 
Empire said:
Apparently United fans are sending his daughter messages on twitter, things like asking him to buy Toni Kroos.

They should just leave her alone or she should change her twitter name.
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Disgraceful.

Though she should be thankful there's no reports of her getting it on with Zaha all over internet
 
Miscemayl said:
Disgraceful.

Though she should be thankful there's no reports of her getting it on with Zaha all over internet
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If that starts happening Louis will probably hire a team devouted to identifying those on twitter saying such things and banning them from Old Trafford.
 
The same sort of thing happened to Lauren Moyes and she had to deactivate her twitter, didn't she? Hers was more a combination of the awful Zaha jokes and Moyes' dreadful start, but still.
 
I'm kinda curious to see whether it'll be Giggs who identifies which players should leave or van Gaal. And if we're ever gunna get Young, Anderson offloaded.
 
Suus said:
I'm kinda curious to see whether it'll be Giggs who identifies which players should leave or van Gaal. And if we're ever gunna get Young, Anderson offloaded.
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Should be Van Gaal.
 
Suus said:
I'm kinda curious to see whether it'll be Giggs who identifies which players should leave or van Gaal. And if we're ever gunna get Young, Anderson offloaded.
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It'll be Van Gaal no doubt about it.
 
Gladiator said:
There was an additional report on how LVG is willing to listen to his players so while he is stubborn on some things, it's not like he's completely uncompromising.
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I think he is more compromising than most actually. He doesn't let pride get in his way of changing the formation if it doesn't look good enough - which is something most managers are incapable of. We saw Moyes last season who kept having excuses in his head for why he didn't perform - so he continued with the same team and tactics for game after game.

LVG will admit his mistakes, which is the opposite of being stubborn. Of course where LVG is notoriously stubborn and maybe has another level to develop as a manager - is with players like Ribery.

Who thrive when they have a free role, but who he still insists should have a very specific role they have to fulfill.

But I think that he is at his all time best right now in this regard, Robben is playing a very free role for Holland right now so he may have learnt a lesson.

A player like Ribery, you either keep happy or you sell him. Too much poison for a squad to have a Ribery played out of role and being unhappy - probably a big reason the squad turned on him in the end.
 
Suus said:
I'm kinda curious to see whether it'll be Giggs who identifies which players should leave or van Gaal. And if we're ever gunna get Young, Anderson offloaded.
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It will be LVG, Giggs has no real knowledge in the matter really as the question isn't "who is good" it is "who is a LVG player". In terms of the specific skills that makes them so, but even more it is about their mentality.

LVG's management style is probably the most demanding in terms of loyalty and mentality.

I believe LVG would have shipped out Ribery if he had a second chance and a free choice at Bayern, which isn't an idea Giggs would ever have told him.
 
Suus said:
I'm kinda curious to see whether it'll be Giggs who identifies which players should leave or van Gaal. And if we're ever gunna get Young, Anderson offloaded.
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You better hope it's not Giggs if you want Young offloaded.
 
Suus said:
That's my concern aswell. For some reason, Giggs, Butt and Scholes rates Young very highly, yet, he's never really produced any long-lasting performances.
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Giggs will be committing suicide if he tries to go against Van Gaal's plans if a player don't fit his system then bye bye.

Deep down I'm sure Giggs knows Young isn't good enough.
 
Suus said:
That's my concern aswell. For some reason, Giggs, Butt and Scholes rates Young very highly, yet, he's never really produced any long-lasting performances.
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Didn't Giggs said that after the Sunderland game, he was livid at some of the players' lack of effort or something along those lines?

Young doesn't have much end product but like a lunatic, tries the same thing over and over again.
I assume the managers like his effort and endless running.
 
Hopefully Giggs learns a lot from LVG and his ideas. It may sound foreign to him but will pay off in the long run. He can look LVG's other mentees and see their success.
 
Annahnomoss said:
I think he is more compromising than most actually. He doesn't let pride get in his way of changing the formation if it doesn't look good enough - which is something most managers are incapable of. We saw Moyes last season who kept having excuses in his head for why he didn't perform - so he continued with the same team and tactics for game after game.

LVG will admit his mistakes, which is the opposite of being stubborn. Of course where LVG is notoriously stubborn and maybe has another level to develop as a manager - is with players like Ribery.

Who thrive when they have a free role, but who he still insists should have a very specific role they have to fulfill.

But I think that he is at his all time best right now in this regard, Robben is playing a very free role for Holland right now so he may have learnt a lesson.

A player like Ribery, you either keep happy or you sell him. Too much poison for a squad to have a Ribery played out of role and being unhappy - probably a big reason the squad turned on him in the end.
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Ah good to know. Hope we see this at United as well.
 
Adebesi said:
Is that likely to be the main reason for doing it?

Does anyone know much about this Desso Grass-Master system? Googled it and it seems like it is principally about making the pitch last better and recover faster?
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No idea, some have suggested it might be a reason. Not sure I buy into it myself but I can see the logic behind it.

The concept behind the grass is that it's a normal organic pitch but it's reinforced with millions of fibres that act as supports.

Taken from their website said:
Training pitches
  • excellent grip and ball control => more intensive training to improve technique
  • better drainage => training pitch is always ready to play
  • 3 x capacity of "normal" natural pitches (1,000 playing hours) => more teams can train on 1 pitch
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Considering Old Trafford uses this, it makes sense that Carrington has it too. Seems sensible to me.
 
Ah, good for technical training and good if we are going to be spending more time practising with the ball.

I was just interested whether there was any tangible link with the question of our injuries, whether this turf is marketed as something that will help with that. I cant see any evidence for it.
 
Adebesi said:
Ah, good for technical training and good if we are going to be spending more time practising with the ball.

I was just interested whether there was any tangible link with the question of our injuries, whether this turf is marketed as something that will help with that. I cant see any evidence for it.
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it's a complete non-story. the old trafford pitch uses the same grass that LVG wants used on the training pitches. If anything, one would argue LVG wants to mirror game situations as closely as possible on training pitch
 
Has the training pitch played some part in our over-abundance of player injuries do you think? Even if not the case, I reckon it would be a favourable and fresh approach to training, giving the squad a more stable and reliable pitch in which to be adequately prepared for the season ahead.

On a separate note, I have not yet commented on LVG's arrival here (or at least I don't think I have). I reckon he will at the very least be a reassuring anchor who will steady the ship after last seasons catastrophe. We've had decades of success under SAF so the proceeding years were always going to be tough to ride out. Our struggles last year have only made things more difficult and we'll need to have at the very least a top 4 finish which will sustain us and allow us to build again. With Luis at the helm, I can see him taking on a fresh approach, changing the teams attitude and encouraging precise yet attacking play, producing the type of football that fans have been crying out for. It will probably be a steady progression rather than a wholesale transition but over time, we'll probably see the squad switching to his preferred style. This is pretty much obvious to everyone but whatever.

One question I do have is whether he will adopt his favourite 4-3-3 formation at United as well. If so, then I reckon we'd be suited to a front three of Rooney, RVP and Mata. But then would we be looking at ditching our wingers for a central three or would we have one central midfielder with the other two drifting in when needed? That in itself is a risky prospect and seems less sensible than just three central midfielders.
 
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