Luis Nani | 2012/13 Performances

[manusteve]

So who are these better wingers?

Right, so you are saying that there are no better wingers that are readily available to transfer in and therefore we should be happy with our three?

Ok, you're right to an extent.

But are you seriously saying that the three of them have been any good this season?

 

[Shrek]

Right, so you are saying that there are no better wingers that are readily available to transfer in and therefore we should be happy with our three?

Ok, you're right to an extent.

But are you seriously saying that the three of them have been any good this season?

No, I asked who are they? Just interested who you think would be better

 

[Nathan]

Clearly Nani is struggling for form and everyone is aware of his quality. For the Real Madrid game we cant be carrying passengers, the players selected need to be 100% switched on.

 

[I'm always right]

Clearly Nani is struggling for form and everyone is aware of his quality. For the Real Madrid game we cant be carrying passengers, the players selected need to be 100% switched on.

So which of our wingers should we play do you think?

They are all struggling for form (excluding Giggs) from what I can see.

 

[manusteve]

No, I asked who are they? Just interested who you think would be better

Bale
Robben
Ribery
Navas
Di Maria

Haven't seen James Rodriguez whom we are supposed to be interested in.

But like I said, I agree with you if you think transferring in would be difficult.

 

[londonredmaniac]

Start Nani v Everton and I reckon we'll see another improvement.

 

[londonredmaniac]

Bale
Robben
Ribery
Navas
Di Maria

Haven't seen James Rodriguez whom we are supposed to be interested in.

But like I said, I agree with you if you think transferring in would be difficult.

Bale is a United player if ever I saw one by the way...

 

[I'm always right]

Bale
Robben
Ribery
Navas
Di Maria

Haven't seen James Rodriguez whom we are supposed to be interested in.

But like I said, I agree with you if you think transferring in would be difficult.

Di Maria and Navas? not for me. Navas has just 2 assists all season.

Robben obviously but he's still a crock and has managed just 7 league games this season. Bale in the form he's in right now, yes.

 

[Nighteyes]

Bale
Robben
Ribery
Navas
Di Maria

Haven't seen James Rodriguez whom we are supposed to be interested in.

But like I said, I agree with you if you think transferring in would be difficult.

Navas is not better than Nani. He is a rich man's Valencia but Nani is much more all rounded than Navas will ever be.

Di Maria is having a shite season himself like all our wingers.

I would take an in form Nani above an in form Bale.

The other two I will give you especially Ribery

 

[manusteve]

Navas is not better than Nani. He is a rich man's Valencia but Nani is much more all rounded than Navas will ever be.

Di Maria is having a shite season himself like all our wingers.

I would take an in form Nani above an in form Bale.

The other two I will give you especially Ribery

Nani over Bale? No way. Nani simply frustrates the hell out of me.

 

[Brightonian]

So which of our wingers should we play do you think?

They are all struggling for form (excluding Giggs) from what I can see.

Nani looked great against Fulham, and at least decent in all his games since the injury. Doesn't seem to be struggling for form any more, for me. He's just progressing naturally towards it after an injury.

Before his injury, Young looked like he'd got himself back into passable form. He just doesn't have anything that special to offer, and ought to only be back-up.

Anyone questioning the basic quality of our wingers is mad. Nani and Valencia, in form, are brilliant wide men, and it really wasn't that long ago that we were talking about having some of the best wingers in the world. We've just been unlucky that they've all had crises of form/injury at the same time this season.

 

[Shrek]

Nani over Bale? No way. Nani simply frustrates the hell out of me.

Bale on the left and Nani on the right ....keeps eveyone happy

Yes, Bale is one I think we all would want here.

But when he moves (and he will I think) it will be to Spain or silly money at city.
I don't think he would be worth the transfer fee and wages that he would cost us to get him here.

 

[Amar__]

Ah, good old Navas is back I see. Can't help myself, I am always laughing whenever someone mentions him in these type of discussions.

 

[Shark]

Bale is the only 'possibly available' winger that I'd take over Nani right now. Aside from that, I can't think of a single winger that's better and available. Even the list of wingers that aren't available and would put in a better shift than Nani, is very small.

 

[Nighteyes]

Nani over Bale? No way. Nani simply frustrates the hell out of me.

On current for I'd take Bale no doubt but an in from Nani is the best winger in the league. Even a frustrating Nani will set up plenty of goals in the way Bale can't or hasn't

 

[I'm always right]

Nani over Bale? No way. Nani simply frustrates the hell out of me.

Bale right now is in the best form of his career and he's sensational, however, when Nani was in his best form he wouldn't frustrate you either, that's why he won our POTY award.

Bale in average/poor form though? yeah he'd frustrate you just like any winger would, be it Valencia, Nani, Robben or even the great Ryan Giggs.

 

[Say Goodbye]

Bale is the only 'possibly available' winger that I'd take over Nani right now. Aside from that, I can't think of a single winger that's better and available. Even the list of wingers that aren't available and would put in a better shift than Nani, is very small.

Is Alexis Sanchez 'possibly available'? He's pretty good.

 

[Adam-Utd]

Bale
Robben
Ribery
Navas
Di Maria

Haven't seen James Rodriguez whom we are supposed to be interested in.

But like I said, I agree with you if you think transferring in would be difficult.

Only Navas from that list is available, and he isnt fit to tie up Nanis laces.

Robben may possibly be, but for his price and injury record you can forget that.

 

[londonredmaniac]

Only Navas from that list is available, and he isnt fit to tie up Nanis laces.

Robben may possibly be, but for his price and injury record you can forget that.

He also rolls himself in a little ball rocking from side to side every time he leaves Seville for more than a day.

 

[Tomuś]

Navas is not better than Nani. He is a rich man's Valencia

Haven't seen much of this lad to judge him, but going by the 'rich man's Valencia' route, he surely would be better than Nani?

EDIT: I mean I haven't seen much of him this season, providing he didn't develop further, Nani's better.

 

[I'm always right]

Haven't seen much of this lad to judge him, but going by the 'rich man's Valencia' route, he surely would be better than Nani?

Seriously now Tomuś? You're obsessed.

Navas is not a rich man's Valencia though.

 

[Shark]

Is Alexis Sanchez 'possibly available'? He's pretty good.

Sanchez and Nani are completely different types of players. I also highly doubt that he'll be leaving Barca anytime soon.

 

[Tomuś]

Seriously now Tomuś? You're obsessed.

Navas is not a rich man's Valencia though.

Seriously, I'm not. Look at it rationally (for once). If Navas is rich man's Valencia, then it means he is at least level above him. Which in the end means, that Nani would have to be two levels above Valencia for that to be true.

Is he?

BTW, I like the simplicity of my tag line

 

[Orton]

Navas isn't very good. Had 2 good seasons in his time with Sevilla. This year he's struggled to find any form. A very one dimensional player.

 

[Cina]

I hate this thread. Actually making a debate out of dumb comments like "he's a rich mans Valencia". Christ.

 

[Tomuś]

I hate this thread. Actually making a debate out of dumb comments like "he's a rich mans Valencia". Christ.

You do realize you don't help with such remarks?

You accused me of being biased. I wrote sometime ago that they're both wonderful players in their own right and that it comes to preference. I said Nani's better equipped offensively, whereas Valencia is more solid and better while defending. You even quoted that and yet skipped the most important part. Heck, you used it to show I'm biased!

I know you try best not to milk Nani's performances and I appreciate that but don't behave like the smartest. It's all about accepting the fact that:

While you prefer Nani - there will be those who prefer Valencia and both sides of the discussion will have their arguments.

The last part is to all of those unable to accept that, not you, Cina.

 

[Bross]

Right, so you are saying that there are no better wingers that are readily available to transfer in and therefore we should be happy with our three?

Ok, you're right to an extent.

But are you seriously saying that the three of them have been any good this season?

Great post

 

[Cina]

Tomus, using a "he's a poor mans Valencia" (which makes no sense, at all), to compare Navas to Nani and then bring it back to Nani vs Valencia is just stupid. What was the point?

What does rich mans Valencia mean??

 

[I'm always right]

Seriously, I'm not. Look at it rationally (for once). If Navas is rich man's Valencia, then it means he is at least level above him. Which in the end means, that Nani would have to be two levels above Valencia for that to be true.

It was a god awful comment that didn't deserve a reply and yet you just couldn't help yourself but to put it up against a Nani comparison again

If he thinks Navas is a rich-man's Valencia then do you really care about his opinion of Nani and what makes a good winger? I know I don't.

 

[Tomuś]

Tomus, using a "he's a poor mans Valencia" (which makes no sense, at all), to compare Navas to Nani and then bring it back to Nani vs Valencia is just stupid. What was the point?

What does rich mans Valencia mean??

Yes, it was a bit pointless, especially as it was used in such context.

Post no. 10500 was the most clueless of the thread yet I can't see you pointing it out. Read it, and maybe you'll see that some of the Nani's fanbois can be terribly frustrating cnuts at times. I can't understand why it's sooo difficult to accept the manner of preference.

In fact, all of my negative posts on here were caused by some silly, brain-dead remarks considering Valencia.

 

[I'm always right]

Post no. 10500 was the most clueless of the thread yet I can't see you pointing it out.

This post?

There is nothing to actually be reached here. You are simply trying to convince the caf that black is white by motioning the glorious step back. Just give up and slowly migrate

 

[Tomuś]

It was a god awful comment that didn't deserve a reply and yet you just couldn't help yourself but to put it up against a Nani comparison again

If he thinks Navas is a rich-man's Valencia then do you really care about his opinion of Nani and what makes a good winger? I know I don't.

I don't choose whom I talk to here. I see a post, read it () and voice my opinion. Anything strange?

 

[I'm always right]

I don't choose whom I talk to here. I see a post, read it () and voice my opinion. Anything strange?

Nothing strange no and you're obviously free to reply to what you will, I just found it funny that you couldn't help make a Nani/Valencia comparison again. You simply can't help yourself. What you should've done was keep it Navas/Valencia related imo.

 

[Cina]

Yes, it was a bit pointless, especially as it was used in such context.

Post no. 10500 was the most clueless of the thread yet I can't see you pointing it out. Read it, and maybe you'll see that some of the Nani's fanbois can be terribly frustrating cnuts at times. I can't understand why it's sooo difficult to accept the manner of preference.

In fact, all of my negative posts on here were caused by some silly, brain-dead remarks considering Valencia.

To be honest, this

Do you really think Nani was better than Valencia yesterday? For the record Valencia didn't have the best of games obviously.

Bloody hell this time round I was sure I'd get a fair judgement of his play.

is just as brain dead. Around 90% of the Caf think Nani was the better of the two, and to come in with a comment like that is bound to attract attention and make people think you've some sort of mental bias towards Valencia.

 

[Tomuś]

Nothing strange no and you're obviously free to reply to what you will, I just found it funny that you couldn't help make a Nani/Valencia comparison again. You simply can't help yourself. What you should've done was keep it Navas/Valencia related imo.

Well, it's called deduction in my book. If someone wrote 'Di Maria is just a rich man's Nani but Valencia's better than Di Maria' I guarantee you I'd be the first to point out the lad is talking out of his arse.

 

[Tomuś]

To be honest, this



is just as brain dead. Around 90% of the Caf think Nani was the better of the two, and to come in with a comment like that is bound to attract attention and make people think you've some sort of mental bias towards Valencia.

It's not brain dead cause it's an opinion, not canceling others opinions and lambasting it. Do I have to agree with 90 % of the Caf? I too watched the game, mate. Still, I probably wouldn't have written that if I read it as 'Nani was better than Valencia for me' and not 'Valencia once again shite, Nani very good' type of comparison.

 

[Cina]

Oh good, we're going down the "it's my opinion!" route.

Funny how before you said that only around two out of 15-20 people even mentioned Valencia and the rest just talked about how they think Nani played, yet since then the whole thing has been a comparison about both, mostly fueled by you.

 

[I'm always right]

Still, I probably wouldn't have written that if I read it as 'Nani was better than Valencia for me' and not 'Valencia once again shite, Nani very good' type of comparison.

Actually, chief wrote:

He is still feelling his way into things. He had an okay first half. Valencia again was dreadful.

So he didn't even remotely claim that Nani was "very good", just okay, and only in the first half for that matter.

 

[Tomuś]

Oh good, we're going down the "it's my opinion!" route.

Funny how before you said that only around two out of 15-20 people even mentioned Valencia and the rest just talked about how they think Nani played, yet since then the whole thing has been a comparison about both, mostly fueled by you.

That's true and I'll admit it in that case alone. I don't think the general comparison is fueled by me, though. I also don't think sticking to the 'Valencia once again shit' mode just because he was terrible till the last few games is fueled by me as well.

Anyway, for the umpteenth time, it's pointless and we should just call it a day for now as far as the comparison goes.

 

[I'm always right]

I also don't think sticking to the 'Valencia once again shit' mode just because he was terrible till the last few games is fueled by me as well.

That's definitely not fuelled by you, it's fuelled by the modern day football fan. Once a player is not playing to his usual high standards, (in the past the likes of Nani, Carrick, Evra and this season Valencia), it seems impossible to get reasoned opinions from fans, as though they are incapable of seeing anything other than the negative.

This happened with Nani before and will again, they forget all the nice interplay and 1-2's and concentrate solely on "that time he lost the ball", "that time he hit those shit crosses" etc. It was similar for Valencia on the weekend, people are now so focused on his passing backwards that they've forgotten it's often necessary.