Luis Nani | 2012/13 Performances

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It seems to be an issue in football now. Pirlo was doing the same for Juve last night, and I've seen it so many times over the last couple of seasons. Stick a man on the front post and you're guaranteed to block it. :lol:
 
Sell Nani & play jd on the wing. My statue can replace Carrick. :D
 
I'm not sure who you're referring to. Either someone else has said that or you're just grated people aren't agreeing with you. Look at my response to your last post aimed at me. I clearly acknowledge his flaws and even state them out.

My general point is that despite his flaws he is a class player. And that I don't agree with some of your criticisms regarding him such as him being bad for our cohesiveness. People can't disagree with your criticisms? Or people can't disagree with your evaluation of the impact of those flaws on his overall level as a player?

Personally I don't like that style of player. I prefer someone with more nous.

Also I have no evaluation of his impact, I jave just said that I wouldn't enjoy playing with him and members of the team seem to agree.

I'm just saying that perhaps there is a reaosn so many fans and players find him frustrating.

To be fair you have admitted his flaws but for a good while the only retort was that he created 5 chances. I just see the debate as being a bit wider.
 
aye, this is probably the thing that angers me most about him, why does he continue to take them, it's beyond baffling.

It probably has nothing to do with United having a game plan to hit that front post area.

And to be fair, everyone in our squad is shite at them. Young cam with a good reputation for corner taking and well, he takes pretty much exactly the same ones as Nani.

Oh, and Nani had an assist v Southampton with just that front area corner right?
 
I think it's more the snide comments and sentences you mix inbetween your arguments that get picked up (in my case, it was your "nani creating chances for others to miss is like Liverpool hitting the post analogy), which give people the impression you are disliking him more than the sensible point you claim you are making.

How the feck is an analogy, no matter how poor, snide?
 
So then 25% said he was shite! And that's what we're defending, not the fact that he played very well and made a couple of poor decisions, cause anyone with that view is well, correct.

How does playing okay = playing shite?

I haven't seen anyone say he played shit, but that he was good in parts and poor in others. Seems a balanced view IMO.
 
I've had enough of this, Nani is tearing the Caf apart, sell the underperforming fecker so we can have Caf harmony again.

I have a theory I like to call "The Irish don't like Nani"

Cina is the exception that proves the rule...
 
No, it means someone in that team is doing well, whoever is providing all these fecking assists that are then smashed against the post, not the entire team.

But my bet is, Suarez assists himself more often than not and then his crap finishing lets him down.

While one man might be missing all of them , I'm not sure that one guy made them all. But I take the analogy back.
 
Are you fecking retarded?

I can at least read. It's pretty simple really, you go back to the start of the debate and see where posters started defending Nani and you'll find stuff like....

How does playing okay = playing shite?

I haven't seen anyone say he played shit, but that he was good in parts and poor in others. Seems a balanced view IMO.

2007 Nani was back.

Shambles, absolute shambles. He wasn't his usual erratic self, that was diabolical - bar a couple of good passes.

And to think that a good number of people wanted him to replace Valencia on the right. Has to sort this out, he can be truly wonderful on his day.

He was inconsistent as hell, and I'm being kind.

So yeah, this is where the "defence of Nani" began and it's understandable. No one is going to try and deny that he wasn't bang on form, but he played well, with some off moments.
 
I have a theory I like to call "The Irish don't like Nani"

Cina is the exception that proves the rule...

I like Nani. I just don't chase everyone around berating him every time anyone says anything vaguely negative about him.
 
surely scholes can take a decent corner, is he just too old to keep running over to take em?

I remember Scholes taking a couple actually, not good, he has no curl in his strikes, only ping.

Any football can lump a corner into the box, we obviously have specific instructions to hit that front area and it's a tough one to get right, even when right it needs a run and header like RVP at Southampton to make it not look shit.
 
I'm talking about the obvious frustration on players faces? Like Berbatov and Rooney as was said above? What's so funny. If you haven't seen that, you might not actually watch United.

Berba is like that with everyone, and Rooney, well feck me I've seen him go mad at every player in our team.
 
And we really need to find someone else to take over corner duty. Nani is terrible at it.

Yes, he is, although yesterday wasn't near as bad as his usual standards, and one could have been a goal for Vidic. I think he has the ability to take a very good corner kick, it's just he very rarely does. I'd prefer us to play it short and work it around then a direct corner, given how little joy we have from them.
 
I like Nani. I just don't chase everyone around berating him every time anyone says anything vaguely negative about him.

As mentioned, it wasn't the vaguely negative comments that started this, it was the comments calling his performance last night a "shambles" etc.

I have no issue and I'm sure others don't either with posters saying, "he played well, but had a few shite moments too".
 
Three posts ffs. Better change that 75% to 95%.

Lynks post isnt even bad, he didnt say he was shit, just that he was inconsistent as in 2007. So you have one poster.
 
moses;12272156 Also I have no evaluation of his impact said:
and members of the team seem to agree.
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Given you seem to be ITK, pls tell ... which players shared this information to give you the privilege of being ITK.
 
I'm talking about the obvious frustration on players faces? Like Berbatov and Rooney as was said above? What's so funny. If you haven't seen that, you might not actually watch United.

To be fair moses, we've had this discussion a thousand times, and in all likelyhood it means very little. Giggs walks around with a permanent 'what the feck was that' look on his face, even when he's the one who made the mistake. I think Pogue had a great post somewhere on the mannerisms and reactions of footballers with each other in game, in a response to the same question. I'll find it.
 
Three posts ffs. Better change that 75% to 95%.

Lynks post isnt even bad, he didnt say he was shit, just that he was inconsistent as in 2007.

Look Theon, the defence started with those comments, and the debate has gone on from there. I'm just putting you straight, not making shit up. People didn't start madly defending Nani because someone said, he played well but did some crap too.

99%, 95%, 82%, who gives a feck, it's not those percentages being debated, it was the retarded comments making out he was shite last night.
 
:wenger::wenger::wenger:

wow.

Have you actually seen Nani play for the past 2 years? Really, its a serious question.

Really!! Is it serious? Oh, if it's so serious I better answer.

It was just turning a point around, read it in the context of the point that was made in the post I replied to, anything can be turned around to suit an argument, ok? Now calm down son.
 
One person said he played shit, the rest that he was inconsistent, yet you and others are acting like half the caf has a huge vendetta against him.
 
Go back to the beginning of the debate a few pages back to find people saying he was poor. It is, in fact, how all this started.

Weird that eh?

It's as though Theon has just pulled the actual beginning of this debate out of his arse.

Why the feck would anybody be defending Nani if posters hadn't been overly negative?
 
I'm talking about the obvious frustration on players faces? Like Berbatov and Rooney as was said above? What's so funny. If you haven't seen that, you might not actually watch United.

:rolleyes: I'll leave you to it Moses, you seem to be getting wound up by all of this. Deep breath and exit thread. ;)
 
One person said he played shit, the rest that he was inconsistent, yet you and others are acting like half the caf has a huge vendetta against him.

I think what's happening is that posters have a difference in view on last night, and Nani in general. Just as you have those pointing out his criticisms and making their case, you have those arguing why they either overlook or don't feel the same way. This thread didn't start with yesterday's game, it was 160 pages long before that point, naturally you are going to have a case of a previous point or assertion being referred to after the game. It's the same thing that happens in any 'player' thread.
 
Have you not seen Rooney glare at Nani? I'm sure I have.

I've seen Rooney glare at pretty much every member of our team the angry fecker he is.

Giggs looks pissed off with everyone, even when he's in 20 yards of space and gives the ball away he'll still scowl at someone as though it was their fault.
 
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