Nail on the head.
Luis Nani | 2012/13 Performances
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Nail on the head.
Do any of you dudes realize that boy has been playing all summer - one of the best performers during the Euros. He needs some rest and we will seem him firing on all cylinders once again.
If you think all is well you are being naive.
There has been too many rumours for there not to be something up.
Really hope it is resolved before next Friday. Either sold or a new contract.
Apart from Zenit, who else has been after him though?
I don't think we'd sell to City, Real seem to be blowing it all on Luka Modric, and Barca... well they're skint now aren't they? Only Paris and iirc Leonardo said they're done in the market.
I really can't see him going to Russia.
I just want the lad to string a few good performances for us and show he's worthy of the contract. He's definitely a game-changer, and I would be severely pissed off if he left. I mean, SAF may or may not decide to have Rooney, RvP and Kagawa plus another winger in a 4213 formation, with Paddy supplying the width on the left, with RvP/rooney interchanging there, but if our second best winger is Young, that's a massive loss in quality, especially when we play with 2 genuine wingers.
There's no one on the market as a winger close to Nani's ability, anyways. We can't just sell a brilliant 25 year old winger and not replace him. What happens when Valencia gets injured? Young plays, and that's a drop in quality, or we have to chuck Kagawa wide. Plus, if we play with 2 wingers and one of them's injured, we're back to playing Giggsy and co.
With Nani, we have an attack that has 5 absolutely top quality players, especially on their day. If even 1 of them's injured, we still have an attack to rival the best in the world. (Rooney, RvP, Kagawa, Nani, Valencia), and can fit them in any formation we want, because there's 2 strikers, 2 wingers and 2 hole players there, and that's just preferred positions (Rooney as a striker and a hole player btw).
Our next best attackers are Young and Welbeck; not in the same quality bracket, for me. Especially with Welbeck so raw atm.
I understand what you're saying, but can't you at least put in a 'fecking hope he stays' in there? We got 89 points last season cause of depth, and buying Young for 100k a week and 18 million quid, when he's a year older and generally worse than Nani (and a far lower ceiling), to eventually replace him (again no-one's there that can replace him, unless we get Di Maria or something on silly money), is stupid.
You don't sell your best players!
Hughes, Kanchelskis, ince, Beckham, stam say otherwise
the thing is- if Sun are close to be reliable and he wants 90k + 30 (depending on starts) then that's a perfectly reasonable wage demand. There might have been some relationship breakdown with Fergie...that could be the only reason for the club to get rid off
Didn't all of them have some sort of off-pitch persnal issue with Fergie or Club?
As i said in the other post - that is the only explanation of Fergie wanting him out. His wage demands 90 +30 k are perfectly reasonable.
I'm hoping the rumors are just hot air. I mean there have been rumors that we're gonna sell Rooney popping up and I just can't see it. Think it's just been a kick up the arse for both of them although it's still possible that it was simply a chance to try and get the likes of hernandez and giggs minutes. End of the day Fergie decided to start with Nani against Everton when he really didn't need to if he wanted to sell him and dropping him makes even less sense from that point of view as it would put us in a weaker position if clubs think we want to sell.
The thing about Fergie, is that regardless of a players talent,importance etc....if he feels they are not pulling their weight, been totally crap in a game, or taking the piss in contract negotiations, he will have no trouble in punishing that player. Hence, Nani not even on the subs bench...Rooney subbed. I for one am glad Fergie doesn't pander to any united player whose commitment or workrate is questionable.
He is so poorly rated on here, it's getting quite funny. I can't think of another player with this much talent, who is consistently overlooked by their own fans like this. Rooney comes close I suppose.
Most of the people who don't rate him have mainly come out of the woodwork since the Everton game too, read the pages before and most of the posts are full of praise and how we need to keep him. Now Ashley Young should be in the side and Nani has been crap since we signed him.
If the reports are true and Nani is wanting around £130,000 per week - why aren't we just making him put pen to paper and give him the contract. Rooney is on almost double that and possibly same with RVP, so Nani isn't out of bounds with those demands being possibly our most talented player and has become one of our most important players in the past couple of seasons. If Rooney got what he wanted 2 years ago, i don't understand why Nani isn't getting what he wants which seems a reasonable wage in comparison to our top earners.
They both speak 100% sense.If he is asking for 130 k, as a 25 year old, it's going to be probably his 2nd to last big contract. I don't think that's above market rate at all.
If he is asking for 130 k, as a 25 year old, it's going to be probably his 2nd to last big contract. I don't think that's above market rate at all.
It is likely to be his biggest contract - his wage demands don't seem unreasonable to me. However, SAF has always had a slight aversion to Nani, remember when he tried to part exchange him with Benfica for Di Maria!
If he leaves because of wages, i'd actually rather have not had all the summer business at all. No point getting in RVP and Kagawa only to let Nani leave.
No I don't remember. You itk?
This.
Completely agree. It's amazing how often the traits in one player are considered negative traits, whilst the exact same traits in another are considered positive traits.
Indeed it sounds like a rumour from the Sun
Part exchange deals are nearly always bullshit
I think some of our fans judge players by unrealistic standards.
To listen to fans sometimes you'd swear Ronaldo never had a bad game.
I'd guess that we don't need him as much as we needed Rooney then. Rooney was our best player, our marquee player at the time. We have Valencia, Young and possibly Kagawa who can all play on the right wing, more quality cover than what Rooney had when he was "negotiating" his contract.
Huh? Apart from the fact that I seriously doubt there's any connection between the arrival of two players who play in different positions and Nani's possible departure, why would you rather we didn't sign two players who could well both be better than Nani if that means he leaves?
Some of you need to remember SAF will only ever care about the good of the team as a whole, not individual players. That's the same mentality the fans should have.
Has there been anything from Fergie about his omission yet?
I do have the good of the team in mind rather than some love for Nani in mind which is why i'd rather we keep hold of our best/2nd best winger(to avoid a needless debate) than sign a 4th striker when signing Kagawa meant playing just 1 most of the games.
For me, the overall squad would be stronger in terms of balance without RVP but with Nani in it. Not the other way round.
No need to get shirty fella, we're all adults here.
I never stated that anything was fact, it was obvious that nani was a potential make weight in any deal for sneijder and that Rodwell would have come to united but for his injury record.
As stated previously I have no control over these matters, no more reliable sources than most other peole and no special powers I am just incredibly perceptive.
As you say i let you know nani would be leaving 12 months ago, at the time only a few others had picked up on this, i took a lot of abuse but did not waver; now, slowly, the majority are acknowledging the inevitable.
You didn't really need to bold anything there, Top, the whole post is hilarious.
After the dog shit display against Everton, Fergie shook his hand and patted him on the back as he left the field.
If he leaves it's because Fergie doesn't rate him, not because he doesn't like him IMO.
If Fergie doesn't like - he almost always gets rid. There have been numerous examples over the years.
Definitely.
Don't have kids.
If you read posts from the first few years of his United career he was a one trick pony, and we'd made a terrible purchase.
How do you know ? 12 months ago Nani had 3 years left on his contract, was a first team regular with a very good season behind him.
Because he is Nani, and he hates himself.
why the feck would we sell Nani though.
cuz frndlytrmp sed so, pls
For falling out with Fergie ? Not like it's never happened before. I would be gutted but not that surprised.
What? When did he fall out with Sir Frogie?
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