Luis Nani | 2012/13 Performances

[londonredmaniac]

Where do you compare him to Rooney?

Honestly, also considering stats, international career and all.

I'd prefer to look at them on club form tbf. I mean if you're rating them on how important they are to us.

I think both are essential. That being said we are in a position to have alternatives if they are not firing on all cylinders. Nice place to be.

 

[Randall Flagg]

Where do you compare him to Rooney?

Honestly, also considering stats, international career and all.

Why is Rooney being compared?

If I must, I would take Rooney any day over Nani. I think he offers more over a season and has done for many years.

This is nothing about who has treated the club better or whose feckin personality I prefer.

I think Rooney is a cnut. But He is a better player

 

[Cina]

People take it to the next level with all of our players though, not just Nani, so it's weird to bring that up. It's far worse with the likes of Welbeck and Cleverley on here.

If anything Nani is underrated by more on here than he is overrated by.

 

[Brwned]

Why?

Rooney's just entering his peak years now, in 2 of the last 3 seasons he's scored over 25 league goals. Ruud at his peak never scored over 25 league goals for us, the only time he did was in the Eredivisie. Alan Shearer, Thierry Henry, Wayne Rooney - the only players to score over 25 on more than one occasion. He's one of the three best goalscorers in the history of the league, you do everything you can to keep him. Nani's not at that level.

 

[Widnes]

rather sell Rooney.

It's not that outrageous really is it? not that I want us to lose Rooney but in Van Persie we have already signed someone who could replace in the short term, the fee he would command would be huge where it seems we will be selling Nani quite cheaply (by modern transfer fee standards) that amount willl not get us a replacement of similar quality and with only 3 days to the transfer window we may not get a replacement at all and given the fact we have already sold Park in this window it only leaves us with 2 real wingers in the first team squad meaning for large parts of the season we would have to play players like Rooney or kagawa out of position to cover the loss of Nani, failing that play unproven young players like Cole or Brady? obviously Giggs can still play there but he hasn't really been a proper LW player for many years now. I really don't see how we can currently cope with the loss of Nani

I do believe Rooney is a better player than Nani, but don't think this season with the purchase of RVP that he is more vital at the moment. The ideal situation is obviously to lose neither player.

 

[londonredmaniac]

People take it to the next level with all of our players though, not just Nani, so it's weird to bring that up. It's far worse with the likes of Welbeck and Cleverley on here.

If anything Nani is underrated by more on here than he is overrated by.

Everyone is going to have their opinion on a player. No worries.

I just don't see why we're talking about selling Rooney or Nani. It's not directly linked.

 

[londonredmaniac]

It's not that outrageous really is it? not that I want us to lose Rooney but in Van Persie we have already signed someone who could replace in the short term, the fee he would command would be huge where it seems we will be selling Nani quite cheaply (by modern transfer fee standards) that amount willl not get us a replacement of similar quality and with only 3 days to the transfer window we may not get a replacement at all and given the fact we have already sold Park in this window it only leaves us with 2 real wingers in the first team squad meaning for large parts of the season we would have to play players like Rooney or kagawa out of position to cover the loss of Nani, failing that play unproven young players like Cole or Brady? obviously Giggs can still play there but he hasn't really been a proper LW player for many years now. I really don't see how we can currently cope with the loss of Nani

It is outrageous. We're not a club that needs to sell. There's no one or the other. As I said, this has more to do with needing another reason to have a pop at Rooney.

I don't really want either leaving. As it leaves us in a weaker position.

 

[Lynk]

Spastics. Nani is good, but you'd sell Rooney before him? fecking hell. Chances are he won't even start the big games this year.

 

[R.N7]

People take it to the next level with all of our players though, not just Nani, so it's weird to bring that up. It's far worse with the likes of Welbeck and Cleverley on here.

If anything Nani is underrated by more on here than he is overrated by.

Nah, if anything there's a lack of a middle ground.

He's not on the same level as Rooney and Ronaldo. There's some incredible drama queens in this thread.

 

[Widnes]

It is outrageous. We're not a club that needs to sell. There's no one or the other. As I said, this has more to do with needing another reason to have a pop at Rooney.

I don't really want either leaving. As it leaves us in a weaker position.

We may well be a club that needs to sell though, with the amount of debt we have I don't see any other reason to getting rid of Nani and not giving him a wage of around 120k per week (if reports are true) other than balancing books after investing in the summer. Hopefully the reports are false but losing Nani would leave a massive hole in the squad.

 

[Hectic]

Spastics. Nani is good, but you'd sell Rooney before him? fecking hell. Chances are he won't even start the big games this year.

You should have ended on the word you started with, then it would be one big spastic quote.

 

[wr8_utd]

Sell Rooney before Nani? Bloody hell the nonsense some people talk about Rooney here is ridiculous. Any team in the world would snap our hands off if Rooney was on the market and we have fans who'd sell him just months after he had a 35 goal season and is still in his prime. Ridiculous.

Keep both of them.

 

[Cold_Boy]

Why are we even considering or are even ok with selling any of them?

 

[Varun]

Is there a press conference coming up before the match? Would like Sir Alex to clear all this up.

 

[londonredmaniac]

Is there a press conference coming up before the match? Would like Sir Alex to clear all this up.

Would it make any difference? He said he wouldn't sell Madrid a virus, and shot down a journo for suggesting he was selling Veron and calling him a great player.

What Fergie says and what Fergie does are not always the same thing.

 

[Varun]

Would it make any difference? He said he wouldn't sell Madrid a virus, and shot down a journo for suggesting he was selling Veron and calling him a great player.

What Fergie says and what Fergie does are not always the same thing.

Regarding the contract situation with Nani and the progress the talks have made. Asking him about transfers is a waste of time.

 

[londonredmaniac]

Regarding the contract situation with Nani and the progress the talks have made. Asking him about transfers is a waste of time.

Aye. He'll say whatever he wants folk to think.

 

[Nanderson]

Nah, if anything there's a lack of a middle ground.

He's not on the same level as Rooney and Ronaldo. There's some incredible drama queens in this thread.

True, but Rooney's not on Ronaldo's level either. Not that it's relevant to this thread, however, just pointing it out.

Don't want Nani to leave for the record. On form he is pretty much unstoppable and could be the difference in getting us through a rough patch as he has done before.

 

[Judge Red]

Sell neither Nani nor Rooney as long as they're willing to stay here. We always get mugged over transfer fees for outgoing players so won't find better replacements.

 

[Revan]

Why the hell some here are ok with Nani's selling. One of the best players of us, we should give him that contract and full stop.

 

[Varun]

Why the hell some here are ok with Nani's selling. One of the best players of us, we should give him that contract and full stop.

People are trying to see what could be the reason behind wanting to sell him. No one wants him to leave.

 

[Escobar]

Not buying those Nani rumours. He always spoke very highly of the club (last time just before training started) and there was never anything negative about him before. Actually, papers where reporting that contract negotiations are on going - now suddenly he should be kicked out?

He's one of our best players we have after all. People with short memory wont remember though

 

[Raees]

If Lucas Moura is £30 million and he's barely proved himself, Nani is worth alot more at this moment in time..

 

[kouroux]

Selling Nani would be so so wrong.Give him what he wants

 

[ghaliboy]

Sell Rooney over Nani? Jesus christ.

Hope he doesn't leave though. He's our only wide player with that real spark to create across the entire attacking zone. Not a traditional winger. (Not including Kagawa)

 

[friendlytramp]

Nani is not first choice neither would gaitan be. Gaitan's best isn't as good as nani's but he wouldn't cost as much in fee or salary.

 

[All 3 United]

Selling Nani was always on the cards since the beginning of the transfer window. He's a player that should be secured but instead we have 'leaked' stories from the club that we can't agree a deal etc etc. Time to balance the books.

 

[buckooo1978]

give him the contract he deserves

letting him go would be a massive mistake

 

[Bryan_Munich]

give him the contract he deserves

letting him go would be a massive mistake

That's the thing though, perhaps Fergie thinks he doesn't deserve what he and his people are asking for.

 

[mungy]

Spastics. Nani is good, but you'd sell Rooney before him? fecking hell. Chances are he won't even start the big games this year.

How dare anybody have a different opinion than yours.

My opinion wont go down well. If Nani wants more than the club is prepared to offer then its goodbye and best of luck for the future. He's massively overrated IMHO great at times but poor too often.

 

[Jaz]

Selling Nani was always on the cards since the beginning of the transfer window. He's a player that should be secured but instead we have 'leaked' stories from the club that we can't agree a deal etc etc. Time to balance the books.

Balancing the books is an illegitimate argument. Nani is a world class player, yes he has a poor game now and again, but he's been one of our top assisters for seasons, and one of the leagues top assisters+goal scorer for seasons.

This is not a thread about selling Rooney.

Nani should not be sold. There is no better replacement available. End of.

 

[Phil]

The thing is, anything that people accuse Nani of, the same could be said of Rooney. (apart from the fat and unfit thing..)

 

[Vibhas]

How many wingers (and strikers) in the world are 'consistent.'

Aside from Messi and Ronaldo.


Are people thinking that Nani (and Rooney) are inconsistent players compared to who?
Midfield players (who are always going to be far more consistent) or the best people in the world who are in their position (I.e. Robben, Ribery, Tevez, Aguero, RvP).

Because Nani's not really as inconsistent as some of the 'top' wingers.

 

[OGkush]

people on here truly emphasize our own players' consistency issue, but fail to realise that they more often than not only see highlights of other players, so it's harder to judge.
for instance last year there were a couple of games where Rooney scored a goal or two even though he had a somewhat poor game. The fact that he had a relatively poor game was acknowledged by us since we watched the game, but I doubt the people that only saw the highlights new that, they were probably thinking he had a stormer.
not to mention the sheer fact that you don't even pay that much attention to other players, atleast I don't. (I mean I watch other games, but I barely give a shit if it's not United)

 

[Cold_Boy]

people on here truly emphasize our own players' consistency issue, but fail to realise that they more often than not only see highlights of other players, so it's harder to judge.
for instance last year there were a couple of games where Rooney scored a goal or two even though he had a somewhat poor game. The fact that he had a relatively poor game was acknowledged by us since we watched the game, but I doubt the people that only saw the highlights new that, they were probably thinking he had a stormer.
not to mention the sheer fact that you don't even pay that much attention to other players, atleast I don't. (I mean I watch other games, but I barely give a shit if it's not United)

fecking exactly what people here don't understand.

If they saw Nani at some other club, they would be calling for us to break the bank.

 

[Carl]

fecking exactly what people here don't understand.

If they saw Nani at some other club, they would be calling for us to break the bank.

Yup. At the same time it's understandable though. At the end of the day you see every minute of every game someone plays for your club whereas with others it's just MOTD highlights and the odd full game.

 

[RedThaiDevils#7]

I don't buy the rumors, BS and Nani will definitely stay

 

[Jinn]

The definition of Spoilt : Caftards!

Nani is a brilliant player. End of. Rooney is a brilliant player. End of.
They BOTH play for UTD.
Be grateful.

 

[Feed Me]

How many wingers (and strikers) in the world are 'consistent.'

Aside from Messi and Ronaldo.


Are people thinking that Nani (and Rooney) are inconsistent players compared to who?
Midfield players (who are always going to be far more consistent) or the best people in the world who are in their position (I.e. Robben, Ribery, Tevez, Aguero, RvP).

Because Nani's not really as inconsistent as some of the 'top' wingers.

Sorry. Did you really just imply that Robben and Ribery are more consistent than Nani?

 

[Rossa]

Sorry. Did you really just imply that Robben and Ribery are more consistent than Nani?

As I read it, I think he definitely didn't. Now, both of them are inconsistent as anyone you would see. Aguero isn't that great in the build-up play and we know RVP can be inconsistent, mostly due to injuries.

Ronaldo can also vary some, but he usually bags a goal or two regardless. When Rooney is off form he goes long spells without scoring and having completely lost his touch. Nani seems to lose interest and flair when he is off form and he doesn't take on his man enough. Ronaldo never stops trying - Messi is just Messi.