Luis Nani | 2012/13 Performances

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Nani is a big game player which he has proved time and again, I'd start him v Real. We are at home, we are going to attack and take the game to Real so we need our best big game players on the pitch. There's more chance of Nani producing something than Valencia right now.

I don't think he has proved this for a long time.

When was the last time he proved this?

Reading in the fa cup is not a big game in that sense and that seems to be the game hes being judged on.
 
Valencia is not even playing well enough to consider playing him in any case, he's been giving the ball away as well as not really doing anything very effective in an attacking sense. It's between Nani and some kind of positionfeck for Rooney, Kagawa or Cleverley.
 
You've confused me for sure. So then you genuinely think people are bigging up Nani's ability based solely on this evening :confused: My little brain really can't work that out sorry.

Knowing how you are as a poster though it seems more likely that you just wanna say anything to have a go at the people praising Nani. Your prerogative though I guess.

I've defended Nani many times in the past so I have no idea what you mean!
 
Only caught the last 10 minutes of the match but the highlights reel made him look very dangerous and judging from comments on here he's had a good game.

I see no danger of starting him against Madrid. If Jones is fecked then we're going to have to change our game plan anyway, and if Nani is hitting some form then why not give him the opportunity?
 
Is it really that hard to believe that some people think Nani should be left out for tactical reasons?

No, not at all. Think we are just discussing it. Most United fans want to see him, but that is partly because we have all been a bit fecking desperate for one of our wingers to be in some kind of form.

I do think Coentrao and Arbeloa can be got at a lot more though, and we need to do this in the second leg.
 
You could say that yes but then we did have players regularly out wide. Kagawa, Welbeck and Rooney all played out wide when needed.

We wanted to defend more in Madrid. At OT, we will more attacking and we have to score to ensure our victory. Hence traditional wingers will start on at least one side. Im guessing Welbeck on the left with either Valencia or Nani on the right. I am hoping its Nani. He relishes the big game opportunity and the atmosphere more.
 
I don't think he has proved this for a long time.

When was the last time he proved this?

Reading in the fa cup is not a big game in that sense and that seems to be the game hes being judged on.

He's a big game player, whether he's done it recently or not. And they don't come bigger than this one. He is capable of producing magic against anyone, he's scored sublime goals past plenty of top sides in the past few seasons.
 
If Nani performs well against QPR then I would maybe want him in for Madrid tbf.

The above is surely a much better way to get your point accross? As I said earlier...

I'm certainly not gonna say that Nani should start against Madrid, he'll need to have another couple of games maintaining that high level before I endorse that.

So look, now we agree, weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! :D
 
It's as if people think that it really is as simple as just putting all your best players on the pitch regardless of their strengths and weaknesses.

We need to retain possession under great pressure against Madrid. Mani is one of the best players in our squad at doing so. Nani is also underrated regarding his defensive work. If we are to play a defensive winger then Welbeck is the best option IMO.
 
Fergie: "I thought Nani's contribution was terrific too. I had a feeling he would win the match for us."

Nani is a guaranteed starter against QPR after this performance. Still think we'll sell him in the summer, mind you.
He hit the badge on his chest after his goal, but I think that was just a coincidence rather than a sign of him wanting to sign a new contract.
 
There certainly is an argument for starting Nani against Madrid, on one hand I can see the plus side of the manager playing players he trusts to 'do a job' for the team, the likes of Jones, Welbeck, Valencia but on the other hand Nani along with RVP and Rooney in his proper position is definitely one of the first 3 players Real Madrid will not want attacking them.

It's hard to know what to do tbh, 10 of the 11 that played in Madrid probably did well enough to warrant keeping their place for the home tie but then maybe being a home we should be a little more confident in our own abilities and let them worry about us?

One thing is for sure regardless of his form this season Nani has certainly shown more than Kagawa has so definitely warrants starting over him!!
 
Nani in for Kagawa, Cleverley in for Welbeck, hope Jones is fit, done.

Yes I know Danny did really well in the first leg but Cleverley gives us the midfield coverage in Kagawa's absence and someone has to make way.
 
More tactics than anything. I think we need to play more of a steady passing game and Cleverley is tighter with the ball. I could even see a case for Anderson on the same basis. Also as above I don't think Kagawa is playing well enough just now, is a little too similar to Rooney in that he's more about passing than trickery (so Nani gives us something different, and again not something Danny can do so much) and would like to see Nani, RVP and Rooney as the main attackers.
 
Ok let me get this straight, you are 12 points clear in the league, have the advantage vs Real Madrid in the last 16 and are into the cup quarters, yet you think its silly for me to suggest that you should keep things as they are, even if Valencia isn't on his best form?

If it isn't broke, why fix it?

But it broke and that was why Fergie played Rooney ahead of Rafael against Madrid and Rooney allowed Contreao, Ozil and Ronaldo to overload Rafael. Nani starting against Madrid can only be better, not worse. Nani's trickery would give Contreao/Marcelo something to think about and Nani is quicker than Valencia these days. Valencia is currently out of sorts.
 
I do understand that people want to wait until his performance(if any) vs QPR before praising him too much, but you do have to give him credit for tonight. I wouldn't be one to doubt his willingness to play for us after a performance like that. He was out there to prove a point, and I'm glad he did.

A goal and an assist is better than any of our other wingers could manage right now. Also, he could have easily bagged another two.
 
What I liked about him this evening was the Ronaldo-esque, "I will score tonight, simple as that", looked so annoyed every time a shot didn't bulge the net.

Great touch and finish for the goal too it must be said. Let's hope he gets a chance to stake his claim for the Madrid match over the next 2 weeks.
 
SAF in the post match interviews seemed pretty happy with him now.

Won't surprise me if he comes out of the doghouse if he performs similarly against QPR. That fire to do well, was missing this season which showed up today.

He wanted the ball, and he wanted to win the game. Worked well with Valencia on the right.
 
“It is very important, the manager has told us that he wants to win the FA Cup and we are very focused on this competition,” the 26-year-old explained. “We prepared very hard for this game and we did well to win, which is the most important thing.

“I have been injured for a long time and it is always difficult when you come back, but I’ve worked very hard and part of what I did on the pitch was because I’ve worked very hard. I will continue to work hard to do my best.

“It was nice to help the team, it was a beautiful evening and I have to keep working hard to try and help the team every time I get on the pitch.”

Despite dominating for much of the match and later building a comfortable two-goal lead, the Reds were forced to endure a nervy finale as a result of Jobi McAnuff’s late strike at the Theatre of Dreams. Thankfully, Nani and his teammates were able to secure progress from a tricky tie.

“It is always difficult to play against this team because they have a very good motivation to play against us and they always play until the last minute. Of course, if they relax a bit then they can cause problems. They scored one goal and the last minutes were difficult for us.”

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-F...e-focused-on-winning-the-FA-Cup.aspx?pageNo=2
 
I would love to see him get back on form. Him and Valencia. We would be a superb attacking team if both are on fire. Imagine an on-form front 6 of:

........RVP...Rooney.........
Nani...Cleverley...Valencia
...........Carrick..............
 
Just saw his goal now. What a superb piece of skill. Such quick and accurate feet, what a first touch that was.
 
His ability to smash the ball with both feet is ridiculous. Ronaldo-esq.

How many forwards and wingers out there predictably cut onto their stronger foot? Almost all, then there is Nani.
 
OK I'll admit, I'm dumbfounded.

I don't know whether he's coming or going. Great game from him - exciting to watch when he's like this.

That performance warrants a start against QPR.
 
If he played like that over the course of a whole season, he'd be able to possibly be mentioned in the same breath as Ronaldo himself. I really hope that he kicks on from here.
 
His ability to smash the ball with both feet is ridiculous. Ronaldo-esq.

How many forwards and wingers out there predictably cut onto their stronger foot? Almost all, then there is Nani.

:lol:

This always happens. For 5 and a half years no one has let Nani be his own man.
 
:lol:

This always happens. For 5 and a half years no one has let Nani be his own man.

There's nothing wrong with being compared to the 2nd best player in the world though, is there? I wouldn't imagine that Nani would find a lot wrong with it either.
 
There's nothing wrong with being compared to the 2nd best player in the world though, is there? I wouldn't imagine that Nani would find a lot wrong with it either.

There's being compared and there is this burden. This is exactly why United fans are so hot and cold with Nani.

When he whacks a ball perfectly in the net, he's as good as Ronaldo. When he's quiet and fecks a few things up, he's as good as Quaresma.

Just because he's a Portugese winger doesn't mean he has to constantly live in Ronaldo's shadow. Just because he does the odd stepover or strikes a clean ball, it doesn't mean he's Ronaldo. The true fact is he isn't in Ronaldo's class and probably never will be.
 
Was surprised to see that he didn't start the game. But from what I've seen of the game he looked good. Looked a threat often, picked up a goal and hit the post with another shot.

Hope he keeps up these sort of performances and really forces SAF to make a decision on whether to start him again in the big matches.
 
There's being compared and there is this burden. This is exactly why United fans are so hot and cold with Nani.

When he whacks a ball perfectly in the net, he's as good as Ronaldo. When he's quiet and fecks a few things up, he's as good as Quaresma.

Just because he's a Portugese winger doesn't mean he has to constantly live in Ronaldo's shadow. Just because he does the odd stepover or strikes a clean ball, it doesn't mean he's Ronaldo. The true fact is he isn't in Ronaldo's class and probably never will be.

There's a difference in being in someones class and doing certain things that remind you of another player. Nani isn't in Ronaldo's class and as you said, he probably never will be. However, Nani is capable of doing certain things at a similar level to Ronaldo when he's on his game. I think that's what the other poster was getting at with his 'Ronaldo-esq' comment. It didn't seem like a direct player to player comparison to me, so I don't see the harm.
 
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