Luka Modric / Signs for Real Madrid

antihenry said:
He should keep his mouth shut when it comes to other team's affairs whatever his opinion may be.

Redknapp is the worst culprit when it comes to that.
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B9 said:
why is it a good point? Why should Tottenham's manager bother to comment on how Chelsea choose to structure themselves?

It's not like Ancelotti was in charge of transfers when he was the manager, so there is nothing new here really.
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If I was a Chelsea supporter Id be mightily concerned if the clubs owner was calling the shots about team composition and not to mention the lack of a manager in place.

Also If I was a coach of a rival club and a manager less Chelsea were turning the head of my star player you can be fecking sure I would be putting as many doubts in his head as possible including questioning the stability of a club with an interfering owner and a revolving managers door. So put that in your pipe and smoke it plastic and dipper!
 
Ramshock said:
If I was a Chelsea supporter Id be mightily concerned if the clubs owner was calling the shots about team composition and not to mention the lack of a manager in place.

Also If I was a coach of a rival club and a manager less Chelsea were turning the head of my star player you can be fecking sure I would be putting as many doubts in his head as possible including questioning the stability of a club with an interfering owner and a revolving managers door. So put that in your pipe and smoke it plastic and dipper!
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Whether you support Chelsea, Manchester United or pretty much any other club on the face of the planet your opinion only counts for those in charge if it can have some actual influence on how the club is run. Whether some of CFC fans aren't happy with Abramovich's style is irrelevant, since it won't change anything. In the end, most fans are fickle enough to overlook those things as long as they get their value on the pitch.

Inner workings of another club is none of Harry's business and he shouldn't make public comments about it, and he's done many times in the past. He's out of line and you have to be retarded not to see it. If Reknapp wants to see his player in a private meeting and talk him out of leaving the club for Chelsea using whatever reasons he's got, it's fine. Making comments in front of tv cameras on how the other club is run is not.
 
'Arry is by far and away the worst culprit in the PL when it comes to talking publicly about other team's players. I have no idea why he is allowed to consistently get away with it.
 
antihenry said:
... Inner workings of another club is none of Harry's business and he shouldn't make public comments about it ...
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So, it's OK for Chelsea to make public their bid for Modric, despite being told by Levy flatly (and privately) - following Chelsea's initially private bid - that's he's not for sale and that's the end of the matter .... but it's not OK for Redknapp to then publicly criticise the way that Chelsea operate?

What rank hypocrisy on your part.

And what did Harry say? Merely the truth that "Somebody else at Chelsea is choosing the players - not the new manager."

If Chelsea want to play rough and nasty - as they have a proven track record of doing - then don't complain when they get some brickbats lobbed back in their direction.

Abramovich clearly thought he could bounce Levy into dealing. Too bad for Chelski that Levy is far tougher and shrewder than the Russian playboy. The latter is out of his depth.
 
GlastonSpur said:
So, it's OK for Chelsea to make public their bid for Modric, despite being told by Levy flatly (and privately) - following Chelsea's initially private bid - that's he's not for sale and that's the end of the matter .... but it's not OK for Redknapp to then publicly criticise the way that Chelsea operate?

What rank hypocrisy on your part.

And what did Harry say? Merely the truth that "Somebody else at Chelsea is choosing the players - not the new manager."

If Chelsea want to play rough and nasty - as they have a proven track record of doing - then don't complain when they get some brickbats lobbed back in their direction.

Abramovich clearly thought he could bounce Levy into dealing. Too bad for Chelski that Levy is far tougher and shrewder than the Russian playboy. The latter is out of his depth.
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He is not a playboy, a straight gangster and bully boy.

I think Hiddink is picking the players from afar.
 
Glaston's outrage over Chelsea tapping their player is hilarious considering Spurs are currently managed by 'Arry
 
GlastonSpur said:
Pretty obviously, the opposite of a bid that's kept private.
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Still doesnt make sense to me.

Far as I know, no one from the CFC camp came out to declare interest or state that they infact had made a bid. CFC made a bid and you rejected it, simple. Thats how it works, doesnt it? Besides surely you're not naive enough to believe that these things dont have a way of leaking out.
 
KM said:
Glaston's outrage over Chelsea tapping their player is hilarious considering Spurs are currently managed by 'Arry
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Outraged? No, what's occurred in nothing more than what I expect will happen in the cut and thrust of modern-day football.

I'm merely pointing out that what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Chelsea leaked their bid in an attempt to unsettle Modric and bounce Levy into dealing, so Harry's remarks are fair comment.
 
GlastonSpur said:
Outraged? No, what's occurred in nothing more than what I expect will happen in the cut and thrust of modern-day football.

I'm merely pointing out that what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Chelsea leaked their bid in an attempt to unsettle Modric and bounce Levy into dealing, so Harry's remarks are fair comment.
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I actually think Harry has acted wisely today.

Chelsea are scum and have been since they turned Russian.
 
Enigma_87 said:
Agree. This is a retarded logic.

1st there's salary involved, so that 1.5m,3m a year is bollocks. Next - buying a 20 years lad for 20m pounds doesn't give you any guarantee that he'll be worth even the same amount after an year or two. It depends on injuries, development, whether he'll fit or not etc.
In Carroll and Henderson cases you're looking at big gambles, as they have had 1 good season behind their back before being bought for crazy figures.

Modric maybe 26, but he's established player in a top English club and established at national level. You know what you get for your money. Of course there's still a risk whether he'll fit or not, but it it significantly lower than the aforementioned...
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The same also applies to Modric there is no guarantee he will fit in or not get injured. As mentioned in a previous post I am considering the transfer fee only - you can add in salary if you know what it is.

Berbatov had a higher reputation than Modric when he signed for us and it took him time to settle in.

There is no gurantee how a younger or older player will settle in - all you can say is the younger player has time on his hand which a more established will not have as much. Look at all the crap that was said about nani and now in his 4th year he has excelled.
 
What is actually tapping up? It seems lots of clubs do it? Sounding out players. Are Barca not flirting close with tapping up Cesc?
 
I still think he will be a Manchester United player come August 7th
 
GlastonSpur said:
Outraged? No, what's occurred in nothing more than what I expect will happen in the cut and thrust of modern-day football.

I'm merely pointing out that what's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Chelsea leaked their bid in an attempt to unsettle Modric and bounce Levy into dealing, so Harry's remarks are fair comment.
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First of all, Harry has been tapping up players right and left and has been running his mouth at other clubs' expense long before this Modric situation happened.

Also, you have no proof CFC leaked the bid (and even if they did, they have a right to do as they please, when it comes to sharing the info concerning their transfer moves). According to you, they were supposed to listen to Levi and keep it private. Why would they do that? I'm sure keeping your tight assed chairman happy is way below on the list of their priorities.
 
antihenry said:
... Also, you have no proof CFC leaked the bid (and even if they did, they have a right to do as they please, when it comes to sharing the info concerning their transfer moves). According to you, they were supposed to listen to Levi and keep it private. Why would they do that? I'm sure keeping your tight assed chairman happy is way below on the list of their priorities.
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You say: ".... they were supposed to listen to Levi and keep it private. Why would they do that?"

Fine. So why are you bitching about Harry commenting on the bizarre inner workings of Chelski? Why would he not do that? Keeping your gangster-playboy owner happy is way down on his list of priorities.

Basically, Levy has told Abramovich that he can shove his bid for Modric up his arse, where the roubles don't shine. But don't fret - and as I've said before - Taarabt is eager to join the Chelski puppet show, where managers dangle on strings and the owner decides who to bid for.
 
Interesting...

Harry Redknapp, the Tottenham manager, said yesterday other big clubs were interested in Modric. The notion he would only wish to stay in London were he to leave Spurs is not thought to be accurate.
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GlastonSpur said:
You say: ".... they were supposed to listen to Levi and keep it private. Why would they do that?"

Fine. So why are you bitching about Harry commenting on the bizarre inner workings of Chelski? Why would he not do that? Keeping your gangster-playboy owner happy is way down on his list of priorities.

Basically, Levy has told Abramovich that he can shove his bid for Modric up his arse, where the roubles don't shine. But don't fret - and as I've said before - Taarabt is eager to join the Chelski puppet show, where managers dangle on strings and the owner decides who to bid for.
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Glaston, you're so caught up in your emotions, you don't think straight.

The only reason I mention Harry's comments is because he's talking publicly about other club's inner workings. Who makes bids at CFC and who makes decisions when it comes to transfer targets is none of his fecking business. What part of that you don't understand? He has no right or business doing that publicly, considering his position. If Redknap Sr was a pundit or a tabloid journalist, no one would care. But clearly him being a Spurs manager means there are certain things he can't talk about it in front of media unless he's willing to back it up with facts. Considering his own history of corruption and tapping up you'd think he'll learn to keep his gob shut but clearly that's not the case.

Once again, Chelsea making their bid a public knowledge is perfectly ok, if indeed it came from CFC camp. Give me one reason why they were wrong in this respect. One club can place a bid, the other can either accept it or turn it down. What seems to be the problem?
 
Commadus said:
What is actually tapping up? It seems lots of clubs do it? Sounding out players. Are Barca not flirting close with tapping up Cesc?
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For the top sides its an everyday occurance - nearly all of the top clubs obviously do it. Just part of modern football.

Spurs can be indignant all they like but Harry Redknapp is always at it as are various other managers - usual speil being "I don't like to talk about players under contract elsewhere but x player is a top footballer" etc.

Indeed, all top clubs pinch young players from lower leage clubs regularly. Just the heirarchy of football.

I'd suspect all clubs do it to their smaller rivals and its gone on for decades. Now they'll probably approach an agent (or more likely someone working for the agent) through someone not obviously connected with the clubs to see whether there is any prospect of a deal. Saves time and hassle in bidding for player who isn't interested.

As you point out using the media is common - because the clubs themselves can deny any involvement. Marca and AS is Spain are essentially PR machines for the big two who obviously keep them well fed with stories to help them sell papers.
 
Ramshock said:
If I was a Chelsea supporter Id be mightily concerned if the clubs owner was calling the shots about team composition and not to mention the lack of a manager in place.

Also If I was a coach of a rival club and a manager less Chelsea were turning the head of my star player you can be fecking sure I would be putting as many doubts in his head as possible including questioning the stability of a club with an interfering owner and a revolving managers door. So put that in your pipe and smoke it plastic and dipper!
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Chelsea have moved the responsibility of transfer to their director of football ages ago. Signing players without a manager in place is not so odd.

What I find more puzzling is who is doing that now Arnesen is gone. Did they appoint someone new.
 
B9 said:
Chelsea have moved the responsibility of transfer to their director of football ages ago. Signing players without a manager in place is not so odd.

What I find more puzzling is who is doing that now Arnesen is gone. Did they appoint someone new.
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It IS odd: even at continental clubs at least there usually is some discussion between the coach and the sporting director, to determine what type of players to go after. Very few clubs just sign players "blindly", without asking the coach of his preferences.
 
antihenry said:
.... The only reason I mention Harry's comments is because he's talking publicly about other club's inner workings. Who makes bids at CFC and who makes decisions when it comes to transfer targets is none of his fecking business. What part of that you don't understand? He has no right or business doing that publicly, considering his position. ....
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None of his business?

You just don't get it, do you? When Chelski's owner - not the manager or Director of Football mind you - makes a bid for a Spurs player, and when details of the bid are then deliberately leaked in an attempt to unsettle that player (depsite Chelski being flatly told: no deal at any price), then the inner workings of Chelski become Harry's fecking business.

Besides, everybody already knows that Chelski are merely the plaything of Ambramovich and that all your managers become jerked-around puppets. So it's a bit late to object when a manager from another club joins the public discussion.
 
GlastonSpur said:
None of his business?

You just don't get it, do you? When Chelski's owner - not the manager or Director of Football mind you - makes a bid for a Spurs player, and when details of the bid are then deliberately leaked in an attempt to unsettle that player (depsite Chelski being flatly told: no deal at any price), then the inner workings of Chelski become Harry's fecking business.

Besides, everybody already knows that Chelski are merely the plaything of Ambramovich and that all your managers become jerked-around puppets. So it's a bit late to object when a manager from another club joins the public discussion.
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You would be better to drop this subject. Antihenry is not grasping the picture.

We all know that Chelski tested the water and got a bit burned by the response.

I just hope that United does not get embroiled with Levy again, I find him repugnant.
 
Fergie's Man said:
You would be better to drop this subject. Antihenry is not grasping the picture.

We all know that Chelski tested the water and got a bit burned by the response.

I just hope that United does not get embroiled with Levy again, I find him repugnant.
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Chelsea were typically arrogant.

United usually do the business the right way.

Won't be surprised if we do get Modric in the end. Be it just cash or Cash plus.
 
I don't like it when we are in a bidding war against Roman. Let him have Modric he will way way overpriced. There is no point getting rid of Berbatov anyway.
 
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