Maguire | he stays!

Big Andy said:
Will Amrabat and Mainoo be enough to cover for McT, Donny and Fred's positions if they all leave?
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That’s why I don’t think McTominay will leave, VDB is clearly never going to be good enough even as back up nor would he be happy with that whilst Fred has 10 months left on his contract but McTominay clearly loves the club and is happy with a squad role.

I think Maguire leaves for West Ham but McTominay stays so we’d have Casemiro, Fernandes, Mount, Eriksen, Amrabat, McTominay, Mainoo and Mejbri as our midfield options this coming season.
 
Some of the posts here are embarassing on our outgoing offers. You want the club to build a spine and negotiate hard in transfers but at the same time asking the club to jump at the first offer they get. Maguire is an England international regular and just because he is not first choice at Manutd doesn't make him a bad defender at all levels of the league.
 
ManRed said:
Some of the posts here are embarassing on our outgoing offers. You want the club to build a spine and negotiate hard in transfers but at the same time asking the club to jump at the first offer they get. Maguire is an England international regular and just because he is not first choice at Manutd doesn't make him a bad defender at all levels of the league.
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prob just that tough middle spot. It is a bit annoying how hard people seem to want to negotiate against united vs other squads. I do like the harder stance the club has been taking but just dont want to see maguire/mctominay not get sold and stop us from bringing in the quality players EtH needs. Think some of us are just worried we will see those two along with henderson still here come end of window. West ham in general though seem to be broke as hell right now based on how they are acting in the window
 
davidmichael said:
That’s why I don’t think McTominay will leave, VDB is clearly never going to be good enough even as back up nor would he be happy with that whilst Fred has 10 months left on his contract but McTominay clearly loves the club and is happy with a squad role.

I think Maguire leaves for West Ham but McTominay stays so we’d have Casemiro, Fernandes, Mount, Eriksen, Amrabat, McTominay, Mainoo and Mejbri as our midfield options this coming season.
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We don't need 8 players for 3 positions.
 
davidmichael said:
That’s why I don’t think McTominay will leave, VDB is clearly never going to be good enough even as back up nor would he be happy with that whilst Fred has 10 months left on his contract but McTominay clearly loves the club and is happy with a squad role.

I think Maguire leaves for West Ham but McTominay stays so we’d have Casemiro, Fernandes, Mount, Eriksen, Amrabat, McTominay, Mainoo and Mejbri as our midfield options this coming season.
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'Loves the club' is also loving his meal ticket. He'll never play for a club with this kind of profile again, unless Barca or Juve or someone pulls one of their periodic weird transfers and decides to sign him from (hopefully by then) West Ham on a free in order to give their 2nd string midfield some punch.
 
Refusing 30m for a 30-year-old error-prone CB in bad form and on high wages is insanity, unless there was something not right about the terms of the payment. Alternatively, it could just be a smokescreen to hide the fact that Maguire refused to accept a pay-cut to join them. I don't think West Ham will offer 200k pw to Maguire, when they have most of their good players on under-100k pw.

From Maguire's perspective, even though he will get more game-time, he won't win anything at West Ham and will definitely be paid much less than at United. There's hardly any incentive to join West Ham aged 30. By the time he runs down his West Ham contract, he will be finished as a top flight player.

I think he'd much rather run down his United contract, win some kind of a trophy in the next two years, and then move to the Arab League or to the US for one last big paycheck. Even the Saudis won't pay anything for
a 32-year-old perennially ridiculed CB playing at West Ham.
 
There are rumours that Maguire agreed personal terms with WH and that Moyes managed to persuade him. If true, it could mean we will accept next offer and sell him
 
Alemar said:
There are rumours that Maguire agreed personal terms with WH and that Moyes managed to persuade him. If true, it could mean we will accept next offer and sell him
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Yes and that he offered him captaincy.
 
37m is a fair price. good luck lad, was once our most important player such a shame his mentality isn't up to it.
 
massey said:
would be good from us i'm thinking for that kind of specific number 37 million some of it is being used for his wages and we get around the 30ish mark.
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Yeah I'm wondering if this is why the 30m offer was rejected.

Maybe we set a baseline of 30m up front with any add ons being a bonus.
 
Just checked a west ham forum to see how they are feeling about it and they are absolutely gutted.

They really want McTominay tbf.
 
GreatDane said:
Honestly think he would be very decent for a Moyes team.
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Maguire or McTominay?

I'd wish them both all the best but I'd really have my doubts about Maguire. His concentration levels are just so poor, either way hopefully we just don't need to think about him soon.
 
OverratedOpinion said:
Maguire or McTominay?

I'd wish them both all the best but I'd really have my doubts about Maguire. His concentration levels are just so poor, either way hopefully we just don't need to think about him soon.
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Well both, but meant Maguire since it's his thread. I don't rate him, but we bought him for a reason and he starts for England too so he can't be as bad as he has been for us - right team, right manager and confidence will make him better.
 
£37m surely includes bonuses. But anything upwards of 30m upfront would be brilliant.
 
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