Just don't want them to break the 100 point barrier.
We could get 90 points and still not come close.
We could get 90 points and still not come close.
Manchester City 17/18 discussion | "If you're here for the Champions clap your hands" (#6505)
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They've played 18 games in all competitions, are unbeaten, have won 16 and looked just as outstanding in the Champions League.
The "it's only X games" thing is getting ridiculous now.
Someone call the nurse, Matic could not get round a pitch like Fernandinho and go box to box. Matic is a good solid player to sit in front of the back four and be neat and tidy. Fernandinho is keeping Gudonghan out of the team who could add a lot more to City’s all round game.
Stones has been the best centre half in the country this year it might bode well for England if he and Jones can strike a partnership up.
David Silva has been consistently the best player in the league for most of the time he has been here, there is no way Pogba gets in our side ahead of him.
As for the rest of your claims Martial, Rashford and the full backs etc. Go look at the stats City’s output is a lot higher in goals assists and ground covered.
No it isn’t because winning titles is about how you finish a season not start it.
Normally there would be no contest in competing against a club called Manchester City, but the rest, PSG excepted, are literally competing against a state not a club, surely in the long term interests of the game and a level playing field the powers that be will have to find a way to rein these state run clubs in!!
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But the other clubs were like turkeys voting for Christmas with financial fair play. What’s wrong with someone buying a football club and investing in it to compete for trophies? Now the rest of the premier league can never be a part of the top four because they are restricted to how much they can extend their wage bill year on year. Where’s the sporting spectical in protecting the status quo of the big 6 in the league?
According to the morons on Sunday supplement, we aren’t speaking about Man City enough nor are they getting enough praise... what? Every fecking day on sky especially they are so far up Pep’s arse it’s untrue.
Where did I compare Lukaku and Aguero or Ibrahimovic and Jesus? Now you are just throwing out random comparisons to suit your narrative.
Yet United STILL generate more revenue than both of those clubs, and therefore STILL have more money to run the club. You have the same wage bill and a similar transfer policy. So you want a financial level playing field as long as United are still way ahead of everyone else? Makes sense.
Points count the same no matter when you win them.
Bayern always finished the season terribly under Guardiola but it didn't matter because they'd effectively won the title by February.
Bayern won the title in February because the rest of the league is so weak. It’s pretty much Scotland with a bigger budget at the moment. Because the title was already won, Guardiola rested players for the latter stages of the Champions League and thus dropped points in the league.
And he failed in the Champions League, even with the cushion of being able to rest key players.
If they continue at their current rate, the points gap between 1st and 2nd will end up similar to what it was in Germany.
The points count the same in the first game vs the last game. If City get 55 points in the first half of the season, they'll probably only need 35 in the 2nd half of the season to wrap up the league.
The idea the league is only won and lost in the 2nd half of the season is silly. If you lose the league by 1 point, every point you dropped in the first half of the season is as much at fault as the points you dropped in the 2nd half of the season.
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That's utter rubbish I'm sorry.
De Gea has very good distribution. There's nothing to say he couldn't do what Ederson does if the team played that way. He's also a better keeper.
Agreed. His ball playing ability is severely underrated.
Eventually the traditional grandees will use this as a pretext to create their own super league. You go on the Spanish news websites and they're complaining about it every day now. Funnily enough they had no problem when the Spanish government was buying Madrid's training ground at a grossly inflated price but, now it's working against them, they think outside investment in football is totally abhorrent.
Fact is that City and PSG dominating, as looks increasingly likely, is bad for business. They don't have the commercial footprint of the traditional elite so, if they start elbowing the big boys out of the way, the interest in the CL and major domestic leagues will drop. Fifa, Uefa and the national associations won't let that happen.
Anyway, maybe we should appreciate this City side for their brilliance. It's all fairly meaningless in the wider scheme of things as they've been given an outrageous and unfair advantage but we can at least enjoy the football they're playing.
still 3 months to February.
Some points to make here.Yet United STILL generate more revenue than both of those clubs, and therefore STILL have more money to run the club. You have the same wage bill and a similar transfer policy. So you want a financial level playing field as long as United are still way ahead of everyone else? Makes sense.
1. United make a huge amount of money but they have to balance the books like any normal business. That's very different from having a benefactor putting money in with no desire for a return.
2. None of us wants United to dominate football indefinitely. If that were the case there'd be no point watching.
3. Football was actually far more competitive when there were no Mansour-esque sugar daddies involved. Clubs like Forest, Ipswich and Derby all won trophies and United, despite having the biggest revenue, went 26 years without winning the league.
4. There's more than one way to break into the established elite. Spurs, Atlético and Dortmund have all shown you can do that without a sugar daddy skewing the playing field.
Jesus how did Kompany not see red yesterday? Just seen it. Don't think Stones was covering given he was level with Vardy. Lucky buggers
Imagine Stones will be out for a while, Kompany will probably follow soon enough, is this the wobble coming up that everyone has been hoping for or will they just adopt a we’ll score more than you approach.
If you noticed the style of play that Pep produce this season is different from what he used to play in the previous clubs. Many of the goals is done buy thunderbolt counterattacks and sprints made specifically by Sane, De Bruyne, Sterling and Co, and everything is based on how much fatigue is being accumulated in the muscles. Not team in the world can continue do this week in week out. It is not possible physiologically. The signs of muscle injury started with the first player to hold his thigh Stones and when the time the same happens to the important players in the attack we should by that time kept a small gap between us so we can close the gap. I really doubt they will continue playing with that energy.
They escaped many decisions this season to start with Arsenal and Bournemouth.Jesus how did Kompany not see red yesterday? Just seen it. Don't think Stones was covering given he was level with Vardy. Lucky buggers
How bad is Stones injury? Playing Mangala could help the opponents 
I don't understand this idea of predicting what will happen if they keep going at their current rate.
That simply isn't going to happen, no team will keep up their best form for an entire season. They will have a dip, it may be a couple of small ones, or a massive drop in form at some point in the season. At that point it's up to us to keep up and try to take over them, which is something we're perfectly capable of doing.
Provided United can beat city we can easily still win the league, and if we can't beat them then fair play they deserve to win the league.
That simply isn't going to happen, no team will keep up their best form for an entire season. They will have a dip, it may be a couple of small ones, or a massive drop in form at some point in the season. At that point it's up to us to keep up and try to take over them, which is something we're perfectly capable of doing.
Provided United can beat city we can easily still win the league, and if we can't beat them then fair play they deserve to win the league.
Hope sheikh gives Pep another 100m to spend in January just for the sake of it. Sanchez looks warmed up and that Lucas guy from Atleti isnt half bad
Hamstring 6 weeksHow bad is Stones injury? Playing Mangala could help the opponents
People predict in that way as that's all they have to judge them on so far this season. I'm sure they will have injuries though and a wobble. United need to ensure they are in touching distance when the happens which is the real challenge.
Guardiolas Bayern always peaked in the first half of the season, so there is still hope!
About six weeks probably so more than likely that he will miss both United and Spurs games, so it's quite likely that come 2018 the 8pt gap will reduce.How bad is Stones injury? Playing Mangala could help the opponents
So the gist of your argument is that United do have better players than City.
Taking that a few steps further, and looking at the current season - points, goals scored, style of play, possession, entertainment, xG, pass completion, shots, shot accuracy, opposition, etc...
...Then you are implying Mourinho is a really crap manager of the best players
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Pep is a god making a crap team vastly over perform.
You clearly can't read. I stated that those players could easily play in the City team and are on the same level as the City players, I didn't go stating that United players are better.
As for the manger debate, what has Pep won with City? Jumping the gun a bit and I'll review when the season ends.
I've made it clear in a few posts that City are in a great run of form, helped along with recent decisions like Kompany not getting sent of yesterday, off side goals v Arsenal as recent examples, but again let's see how they cope with a few injuries and a rough patch. Christmas will be a nice test.
That's a classic straw man if ever I saw one mate!
I think we'd all agree City have the better squad overall. We've spent years overpaying for the likes of Young, Fellaini and Valencia and the result is loads of deadwood.
But to say our best players wouldn't get in City's team is ludicrous.
If you think your keeper is better than DDG, your CM is better than Pogba and your CBs are better than Bailly, wow you're smoking some serious crack.
I'm not sure what can we learn from Real, Barca, Bayern or PSG beating them as not many teams in EPL can play close to that level, so that goes out of the window.
That said, they can't keep this kind of form whole season. In the second half of every season Pep's Bayern team started to show weaknesses. The bigger problem is they did had it pretty much wrapped up before that.
I also think we can definitely hurt them in 20 days time at OT and they will have a problem dealing with our counter. It would be great not to lose more ground by that time as they have easier fixtures.
Ederson's short and medium passing is unbelievably assured, accurate and daring, even under great pressure. I’ve never seen another keeper do it to that standard, certainly not De Gea. The assertion that De Gea could (if he wanted) is just hero worship.
You are going to get Gholum as left back, Sanchez as a forward and probably a CB. That would be around a 100m. Even with infinite saves on football manager you cannot get that. Being rich is a super power and the sheikhs are using it on football as a PR exercise.Hope sheikh gives Pep another 100m to spend in January just for the sake of it. Sanchez looks warmed up and that Lucas guy from Atleti isnt half bad
Ghoulam and Sanchez would both be free
You will. They won't break 100 points tho, will stop at 96-97
Sorry but you're wrong and clearly haven't seen much of De Gea.
Have a seat mate. Don't compare Ederson to De Gea again. Ederson is an average keeper. End of
Well for one Fernandinho is more athletic.
Silva is a different player to Pogba, Pogbas actual comparison in this case should be De Bruyne. Silva is the facilitator the playmaker, the one who knits everything together, Pogba obviously doesn't do that as well.