Fergie not having a presser today?
Manchester United v Liverpool
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
what I would give for a young Bryan Robson now
SSN showed a few clips of his press conference I'm sure it was today's. It was just them asking him about Roy and the other managers underpressure.
Yeah cheers fella, or theres tvcatchup.com. Just annoyed tho as one of the few opportunities for us freeviewers to see a united game in hd. Itv streams aint all that great, but at least they are steady i suppose.
If this happens & I was a Scouser, I'd be furious that the team had been short changing me all season with shit performances.
Thing is they probably will raise their game like, you know, like a league 2 side that comes to OT and gives us a hard time. They need to be humiliated, sorry it has to involve Woy, but hay...
I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Liverpool win. Its their cup final after all.
I m not sure about Fergie but Woy canceled his press conference today. I think he got scared of the media. Woy is a Wussy.
He's Russian?
Collectively, the liverpool players/coaching staff must be so distrated at the moment - there must be some tension between the players due to some very poor performances and all this sack the manager stuff, it must have everyone on edge, not the ideal conditions for coming to OT for a potential season ending game IMO
Woy said his goodbyes instead apparently.
According to SSN the decision wasn't Hodgson's.
agree. whatever. This will be a tougher match than the previous one at Old Trafford.
Nah, you'll play a strong team and beat Liverpool comfortably - then you'll lose horribly to Spurs.
We have a week between these fixtures, Pete.
And it's Spurs. The only team we have a better record against recently is Arsenal.
Nicely done KraftyIf Rafael can play like the way he did the last time he played Bale, then we should be fine. I know Rio and Vidic and good enough to take care of Crouch and Defoe/Roman. Carrick and Ando can take care of Modric and VDV.
Only 1 of that trio listed there will play in that game.
Hope we play something along the lines of this:
VDS
Fabio--Vidic--Rio--Rafa
Carrick--Anderson--Fletcher
Rooney--Berbatov--Nani
Hopefully we blitz them for 3 or 4 by 60 minutes and start to rest players for Spurs next week...
VDS
Fabio--Vidic--Rio--Rafa
Carrick--Anderson--Fletcher
Rooney--Berbatov--Nani
Hopefully we blitz them for 3 or 4 by 60 minutes and start to rest players for Spurs next week...
Giggs: We would never collapse like Liverpool
Ryan Giggs says the crisis that has engulfed Liverpool could not happen at Manchester United because of the successful foundations laid by Sir Alex Ferguson.
United's arch rivals arrive at Old Trafford for tomorrow's FA Cup third round tie mired in turmoil, just four points off the relegation zone and with beleaguered boss Roy Hodgson on the brink of the sack.
While United endured a 26-year wait before winning the first of 11 Premier League titles in 1993, Giggs said Fergie had strengthened the club to such an extent they could never suffer a fall from grace as dramatic as Liverpool.
And ahead of the showdown between English football's fiercest rivals, Giggs hailed Fergie's long-term vision, which he believes will sustain United's success long after the 69-year-old Scot eventually steps down.
"Our manager is not always looking just for this season," said Giggs. "He buys players with a view to the future, which he's done more and more over the last few years.
"He's bought players like Cristiano Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney, Anderson and Nani - all young players who have got the ability to go on and be better, and all of whom have done that.
"Now we've got the next batch, the likes of Javier Hernandez, Rafael and Fabio Da Silva, Gabriel Obertan and Chris Smalling, all young players who will hopefully get better over the next few years.
"The manager is experienced enough to know that we'll be challenging for the league this season and long after that because of the nucleus of the squad we have, as well as adding fresh blood, which gives everyone a lift."
Despite the chaos at Liverpool, Giggs is experienced enough to know that United cannot afford to take lightly the threat posed by their old adversaries, who will arrive in Manchester with a point to prove.
Two seasons ago, with United closing in on the title, Liverpool routed them 4-1 at Old Trafford, a reminder that, with world-class talents like Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres, the Merseysiders have the potential to throw up a shock.
"Liverpool are a big club but they've obviously had massive problems off the pitch," said Giggs. "They've had a new manager this season and new owners, and they haven't got off to the start they'd wished.
"But they have got quality players in their team, and when you've got that, you've always got a chance. Losing is like winning, in that it can become a habit.
"Once you start losing, the luck doesn't seem to go for you. Whereas if you're winning, it does seem to go for you. If you're not doing too well and your league form isn't what it should be, which is the case with Liverpool, the FA Cup is always a release.
"It's a one-off, so it can be something a team that isn't doing too well can look forward to and something they can enjoy. But we'll be up for it and won't be taking anything for granted.
"No matter how the two teams are doing, and Liverpool aren't doing too well at the moment, I always say that form goes out of the window, purely because of the history and rivalry between the two clubs.
"They'll have 9,000 fans at Old Trafford, so the atmosphere will be electric and, no matter how badly they're doing right now, Liverpool have still got some world-class players.
"There's not many teams in the Premier League who have got world-class players like Liverpool, the likes of Gerrard, Torres and Jose Reina. So we'll have to be fully focused."
Giggs, who will celebrate the 20th anniversary of his United debut in March, has yet to make up his mind about whether he will carry on playing next season.
But if this is to be his last campaign with United, the 37-year-old said he is desperate to go out on a high, with the FA Cup just as much of a target as the Premier League and Champions League.
"I don't approach a game like this thinking it could be the last time I play against Liverpool," said Giggs. "It's more like it could be my last chance to win the FA Cup.
"I just want to go out and enjoy it, and I feel if I do that I'll be at my best. The FA Cup is a great competition where anything can happen.
"You saw that last year, when we lost to Leeds in the third round at home. You're never surprised at what the FA Cup can throw up - sendings off, freak goals, anything can happen and you can be out.
"Last season was tough. Not only were we out of the FA Cup after one game, we'd lost to a big rival like Leeds. You don't want that feeling again, certainly not against our biggest rivals Liverpool.
"The FA Cup has still got that unique romance about it. The atmosphere on Sunday, you wouldn't get that in a Premier League game, because Liverpool will be brining more fans with them than normal.
"These are the kind of games you look forward to, the kind you want to be involved in. And you want to get to Wembley. It's the FA Cup, it was my first memory of football growing up, watching it on TV. So it's still a special competition for all players."
Ryan Giggs says the crisis that has engulfed Liverpool could not happen at Manchester United because of the successful foundations laid by Sir Alex Ferguson.
United's arch rivals arrive at Old Trafford for tomorrow's FA Cup third round tie mired in turmoil, just four points off the relegation zone and with beleaguered boss Roy Hodgson on the brink of the sack.
While United endured a 26-year wait before winning the first of 11 Premier League titles in 1993, Giggs said Fergie had strengthened the club to such an extent they could never suffer a fall from grace as dramatic as Liverpool.
And ahead of the showdown between English football's fiercest rivals, Giggs hailed Fergie's long-term vision, which he believes will sustain United's success long after the 69-year-old Scot eventually steps down.
"Our manager is not always looking just for this season," said Giggs. "He buys players with a view to the future, which he's done more and more over the last few years.
"He's bought players like Cristiano Ronaldo, Wayne Rooney, Anderson and Nani - all young players who have got the ability to go on and be better, and all of whom have done that.
"Now we've got the next batch, the likes of Javier Hernandez, Rafael and Fabio Da Silva, Gabriel Obertan and Chris Smalling, all young players who will hopefully get better over the next few years.
"The manager is experienced enough to know that we'll be challenging for the league this season and long after that because of the nucleus of the squad we have, as well as adding fresh blood, which gives everyone a lift."
Despite the chaos at Liverpool, Giggs is experienced enough to know that United cannot afford to take lightly the threat posed by their old adversaries, who will arrive in Manchester with a point to prove.
Two seasons ago, with United closing in on the title, Liverpool routed them 4-1 at Old Trafford, a reminder that, with world-class talents like Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres, the Merseysiders have the potential to throw up a shock.
"Liverpool are a big club but they've obviously had massive problems off the pitch," said Giggs. "They've had a new manager this season and new owners, and they haven't got off to the start they'd wished.
"But they have got quality players in their team, and when you've got that, you've always got a chance. Losing is like winning, in that it can become a habit.
"Once you start losing, the luck doesn't seem to go for you. Whereas if you're winning, it does seem to go for you. If you're not doing too well and your league form isn't what it should be, which is the case with Liverpool, the FA Cup is always a release.
"It's a one-off, so it can be something a team that isn't doing too well can look forward to and something they can enjoy. But we'll be up for it and won't be taking anything for granted.
"No matter how the two teams are doing, and Liverpool aren't doing too well at the moment, I always say that form goes out of the window, purely because of the history and rivalry between the two clubs.
"They'll have 9,000 fans at Old Trafford, so the atmosphere will be electric and, no matter how badly they're doing right now, Liverpool have still got some world-class players.
"There's not many teams in the Premier League who have got world-class players like Liverpool, the likes of Gerrard, Torres and Jose Reina. So we'll have to be fully focused."
Giggs, who will celebrate the 20th anniversary of his United debut in March, has yet to make up his mind about whether he will carry on playing next season.
But if this is to be his last campaign with United, the 37-year-old said he is desperate to go out on a high, with the FA Cup just as much of a target as the Premier League and Champions League.
"I don't approach a game like this thinking it could be the last time I play against Liverpool," said Giggs. "It's more like it could be my last chance to win the FA Cup.
"I just want to go out and enjoy it, and I feel if I do that I'll be at my best. The FA Cup is a great competition where anything can happen.
"You saw that last year, when we lost to Leeds in the third round at home. You're never surprised at what the FA Cup can throw up - sendings off, freak goals, anything can happen and you can be out.
"Last season was tough. Not only were we out of the FA Cup after one game, we'd lost to a big rival like Leeds. You don't want that feeling again, certainly not against our biggest rivals Liverpool.
"The FA Cup has still got that unique romance about it. The atmosphere on Sunday, you wouldn't get that in a Premier League game, because Liverpool will be brining more fans with them than normal.
"These are the kind of games you look forward to, the kind you want to be involved in. And you want to get to Wembley. It's the FA Cup, it was my first memory of football growing up, watching it on TV. So it's still a special competition for all players."
I think we'll draw this one.
Really hope Hodson sticks to his beloved 442 and plays Gerrard in CM. Don't think Gerrard is at his best when he has to defend and think we would roll em over quite easily. More problematic if he plays Gerrard in an attacking role behind Torres.
I'd like to see the team vs Blackburn with Giggs for Park.
We should beat them easily wherever Gerrard plays, worst Liverpool side for years, they're terrible.
VDS
Rafael
Vidic
Rio
Evra
Nani
Carrick
Anderson
Giggs
Rooney
Berba
Hopefully we play at a fast tempo and we could hammer them. Just hope it ain't 451.
there will be more scouse fans than usual so should make for a cracking atmosphere
The last time we played the dippers in the 3rd round of the cup at home we won the treble.
Just saying is all
4th Round
Gutted no Scholes for this one.
I hate 'new manager syndrome'.
I wouldn't worry, he's not a miracle worker.
Would be good to give them a hammering in his first game in charge.
To late.... Sky Sports | Football | Premier League | News | Hodgson leaves Liverpool
Got a shitty feeling about this now... unbeaten run, them having there wizard in charge
. Does seem alittle that fate is making this a big win for them!To late.... Sky Sports | Football | Premier League | News | Hodgson leaves Liverpool
Got a shitty feeling about this now... unbeaten run, them having there wizard in charge
I think they'll come at us, it's his way of playing and he has nothing to lose as he has only been in charge a day. It will play into our hands with our quick counter attacks and their shite defence.
Heroic failure in a 4-2 win for United and the Anfield faithful will love him for giving it a go.
Let's make sure that he can start as he means to go on
Lets give Kenny a good beating in his first game in charge.
Liverpool got nothing to lose and we've got everything to lose.
On the Liverpool side of the coin, it'll give them a lift no doubt. But will it still be enough to go to Old Trafford, where we hardly lose, and get a win?
On our side of the coin, maybe this could work in our favour more so. Under Hodgson, they were on the rocks and their morale was at an all-time low which meant we could have undermined them to an extent. Having Dalglish back will lift them, and our players will know this now. They know Liverpool will come to play now, so our players will also be extra up for it.
COME ON THE feck UNITED!!!
On our side of the coin, maybe this could work in our favour more so. Under Hodgson, they were on the rocks and their morale was at an all-time low which meant we could have undermined them to an extent. Having Dalglish back will lift them, and our players will know this now. They know Liverpool will come to play now, so our players will also be extra up for it.
COME ON THE feck UNITED!!!
To late.... Sky Sports | Football | Premier League | News | Hodgson leaves Liverpool
Got a shitty feeling about this now... unbeaten run, them having there wizard in charge
Our unbeaten run is in the league.
A canadian who thinks he's german, but would like to be english. Hargreaves = Dr. Dwayne
Liverpool will now play totally transformed, at least for this game. Am expecting they will walk out filled with confidence and renewed purpose.
Think the only way to deal with this is like we did vs arsenal in in 2008 CL semi final 2nd leg .... ie very quickly pour ice cold water on any hint of a resurgence.
If I were SAF, I'd demand that we came flying from the first whistle. 3-0 up by 20 minutes should just about do the trick.
Anyway which way, this game has been set up beautifully, am expecting a crackerjack match.
Think the only way to deal with this is like we did vs arsenal in in 2008 CL semi final 2nd leg .... ie very quickly pour ice cold water on any hint of a resurgence.
If I were SAF, I'd demand that we came flying from the first whistle. 3-0 up by 20 minutes should just about do the trick.
Anyway which way, this game has been set up beautifully, am expecting a crackerjack match.
This will not be the Liverpool of late. They will be coming out firing on all cylinders and let's be honest we have not been the on our best form as of late. I really expect this to be a really tough game and would not be surprised at a replay!
He was great wasn't he. 85 was brilliant, we beat some fantastic sides in the cup that season. Everton and Liverpool were arguably the best two sides in Europe at the time. I actually think Everton would've won the European Cup in 86.