See, this scares me, how can your natural position be centre half when you lack positional intelligence and awareness?
Terrible signing, said it at the time, we lost Rio and Vidic and this is the pile of shit we get in?
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See, this scares me, how can your natural position be centre half when you lack positional intelligence and awareness?
Terrible signing, said it at the time, we lost Rio and Vidic and this is the pile of shit we get in?
Not impressed at all thus far. Also culpable for the fourth goal, the pass he gave Mata was impossible to do anything with. Not to mention he's all over the place positionally. 16 million and a free Nani seems like a very bad deal.
Perhaps his lack of positional intelligence and awareness comes from the fact that he doesn´t have the routines to play in that position? Like i said (and unfortunately for you guys) he isn´t a LB. He´s a CB. Playing as LB is a stop gap solution. Not surprising that two years ago after he played a couple of games as LB our managers always put him as CB. I warned that the first real test would be an away fixture.
He looks like he doesn't give a shit out there today. How Shaw isn't getting a game is beyond me.
He's awful
Knee jerk central in here.
Shittiest player in the defence in today's game. Offered very little going forward too.
Why has Shaw not come on?
Why has Shaw not come on?
Well has to be one of the worst performance of a United player i can remember, he and Clattenburg were at the same level today..
Our worst player today by a long way. Even considering the Penalty Blackett gave away. He was all over the place, he caused our play to break down a lot and a few times I saw him jogging back casually when opposition players were running past him.
Very poor today. He may not be a left back but he should be doing a lot better, especially when they were constantly attacking down his side. Hope Shaw starts next week.
Maybe because this is his 2nd game and in his first he played well!
He was crap. Nothing going forward and got done one too many times.
Where was Shaw. Doesn't he like him?
Where was Shaw. Doesn't he like him?
Pretty useless today, both in attack and defense. What does Luke Shaw have to do to get a match?
As soon as he took that long range effort in the first half I was like "oh, he's one of those is he?". Not convinced.
He was alright during the WC, but a huge weak link and bombscare during Argentina's WC qualifiers. I don't rate him
I think he's a better Centre Back than a Left Back. He was all over the place positionally today and didn't look to comfortable on the ball. Surprised Shaw isn't ready yet. I hope he puts this behind him and kicks on, but today he was very poor.
Kop out excuse, its not like he's never played left back. He was there at the World Cup. His lack of effort and desire to run back was actually more scarier than his embarrassing positioning.
When he's at centre back is that what he does too when someone gets behind him, just gives up and casually jogs back.
He got roasted by Ritchie fecking De Laet, doesn't get any lower than that, I can take someone being a shit footballer but lack of effort drives me nuts. Good to see he has both.
Holy feck balls was he bad today! It was like he'd never heard of positional play.
Totally not convinced with him at LB, surely Shaw should get a game now.
Let's not be knee jerk. Too early to make decisions about him. The defence players here were crap and have been long before he arrived.
Wanted Shaw to replace him but obviously once we went behind attacking subs had to be made. Wasn't very good today. Defensively his positioning was bad, Blackett did well covering him often.
Wow opinions in here have changed massively.
Looked very weak defensively today
It isn´t an excuse it´s the sensible explanation. He played a Wc as LB in contrast with 2 years as CB, of course he doesn´t have the same stability and routine that he has in the CB position. It´s like having Smalling play as RB and then as CB. The difference is clear. The part about jogging back and lack of effort, there´s no excuse for that really, i agree.
As CB for Sporting i never seen him do that, then again our manager and defence never had this kind of meltdown like United showed today. He played in a safe enviroment with emphasis to defensive stability in 4-5-1. This tactical experiment by Van Gaal was atrocious. If that happened, who knows, perhaps he would do the same jogging back. But i´m on your camp, the lack of effort infuriates me on any player whether it´s a shit footballer or a skilled footballer. You have to earn the wage.
Play the guy at CB. No way he should be ahead of Shaw at LB.
With Evans out and Blacket suspended, Rojo will play CB next week and hopefully that's the end of him at LB. Absolute joke of a performance.
Is his positioning better at CB?
It was like Evra of last few years was back.
It was like Evra of last few years was back.
second worst payer after van persie, he is not any better as leftback than jones as a rb
I'm guessing we will see him in his main position next weekend. Poor game today.
Agree. Why did he do well as LB for Argentina? The reason is clear, stable eleven, team with more quality that spends more time controlling the ball and the opponent and less time on their defensive end with considerably less pressure. It´s completely different circumstances.
Rojo out, Shaw in. 
He was piss poor today.
Rojo out, Shaw in.
Rojo to CB, and Shaw at LB. After Evans' injury and Blackett's suspension, we don't have any option anyway.
Talk about knee jerk. Last week he was the loveable passionate guy who we will all love, today his a piece of shite and is thick as shit!
Grow up!!!
Grow up!!!
Is it the same set of users calling him that or changing their tune or is it different users with different opinions saying different things? Or is the caf some kind multiheaded hydra with hive mentality where the opinion of a few users dictates the opinion of everyone else?
That was truly shocking defensively from him, by a distance the worst performer on the pitch. You can pick out huge mistakes from him in every single goal, bar the Rafael penalty. Luckily he's got the physical tools so if someone can teach him where to stand and when not to overlap hopefully he can improve on this.
I said it in Daley Blind's player thread and I think the same applies to Rojo, perhaps even more so. A first Premier League away game against a side like Leicester is like getting thrown into a bear pit. He's played in big matches I'm sure but today will have been unique in its own way.
Get him playing in his natural position and allow him some time to settle. Hopefully things improve.
Get him playing in his natural position and allow him some time to settle. Hopefully things improve.
Said before he signed that he was always likely to struggle to adapt to the PL at first due to his style of play. This sort of player is always likely to be exposed until they fully adjust and that was always going to take time.
Various reports when we signed him suggested he wasn't really United quality. That may or may not be true but it's far too early to tell at this stage. People already overreacted to his performance in the QPR game, it'd be stupid to overreact to this game too.
Of all our signings this guy is the one who's gonna need the most patience.
Various reports when we signed him suggested he wasn't really United quality. That may or may not be true but it's far too early to tell at this stage. People already overreacted to his performance in the QPR game, it'd be stupid to overreact to this game too.
Of all our signings this guy is the one who's gonna need the most patience.
I don't think there is anything wrong in berating a player if he has a stinker and Rojo did have a stinker. He didn't have anything to do last week. He was at fault for the first goal because he shouldnt have let in that cross, he gave the ball away a few times and was he at fault for the 4th goal was debatable. Im also not saying he should be dropped for ever. Just that today he was a bit shit and he needs to bounce back.
He had a very poor game today lets not execute him for it. Calling him a 'pile of shit' already I mean come on.
Not seen the game today but even against QPR he got caught out a couple of times positionally but fortunately it led to nothing then. No idea how he is at CB But that LB spot should be Shaw's.