Neither of those things are what you said.
Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances
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Well it was implied.
There is no doubting he doesn't have the ability that we want from a major signing. Even his backers will agree on that, he has different strengths. He stood out at Everton becase he was on the end of things in and around the box, that just isn't United, even though we have been crossing a lot, it's still different to the straight balls Fellaini was knocking down.
He didn't stand out for his vision, creativity and drive we want from a 27 million central midfielder.
I'm going to give him the time he deserves and hope he goes on to have a good career with us but he hasn't shown me anything over the years to make me think he could be a great United player.
Deserves plenty of time. Hope to see more of him this year.
Of course he deserves time, it's Moyes' signing and he should use him how he wants to use him to get the best out of him. It's just from what I have seen, the way Moyes has lined us up so far, I honestly can't see where Fellaini fits in.
If that changes over time when Moyes starts to build his own team, time will tell.
If that changes over time when Moyes starts to build his own team, time will tell.
If we go by the second half against swansea, I would think he'd be doing the fletcher carrick role of pressing high up from midfield, winning it and getting it to januzaj/kagawa asap. I think he'd do well in that role, quickly getting tight to the man on the ball without letting him turn. His problem is when players have turned and have space against him, its easy to just run pass him as hes not the most mobile.
i'm with you regarding this matter. it is unfair to judge fellaini after a few months and he has been injured for quite sometime as well, but i just can't see him becoming a huge success here.
it would be a pleasant surprise if he can turn things around here.
He deserves at least half the time we afforded Anderson to come good...
Really? Fellaini has been at Everton and playing in England in the Premiership for about 5 years, Anderson has had what 6+ years but was bought as a young potential from another country and leagye, and you think Mourane should get another 3 years just to settle at a change of club in the same league. fecking hell, for £28m that seems like the great train robbery mixed with Brinks!!
Actually, that wasn't exactly the point I was making, but, as you've put it like that -- I do!
Anderson cost £20m (six years ago) and has played how many full games? I think Fellaini should at least be given half as many minutes as Anderson before he is written off. The foreign league and age point sounds like an excuse; other players have come in at a young age both home and abroad and taken less than six years to prove themselves -- hell, Fellaini himself came to this country at a young age from abroad and made a bigger impact!
I think the problem with Fellaini is he wasn't a sexy enough purchase and folk believe United cannot afford to spunk £28m up the wall like our neighbours.
To say he doesn't deserve any more time is mindboggling.
Yeah, know what you mean. I wonder what Fergie would have done with him had he signed for us back in 2008?
In a summer which teased and tantalised us with the prospect of Fabregas or some other world class talent sitting in the middle of a United midfield, Fellaini was kind of against the ropes once he signed alone on that overpriced dotted line...
Moyes did say early on that getting the first signing right was key.
It's certain he didn't mean Fellaini, and if we'd got one of the top, albeit really unrealistic options first, everyone wouldn't go on about Fellaini as much.
However, as we didn't, and he's the (I think) 5th highest transfer we've ever done, and hasn't started like a demon, it's natural people are worried.
It's certain he didn't mean Fellaini, and if we'd got one of the top, albeit really unrealistic options first, everyone wouldn't go on about Fellaini as much.
However, as we didn't, and he's the (I think) 5th highest transfer we've ever done, and hasn't started like a demon, it's natural people are worried.
Agree been unfairly casted as panto villain the big guy will do well here imo. A lot of hysteria due to our poor form and lack of signings hasn't helped him. But it looks to me Moyes is going after top players only and that's why there has been a shortage so far (De Rossi Baines Fabergas Bale Ronaldo) if the strong rumours are correct
Didn't say he doesn't deserve time to settle, just said not 3 years!! If he takes that long then at £28mills its not good business is it. Hope he does well when he's back all the same though.
Let me get this straight he is not playing because of a sprained wrist....didn't Cantona play a whole season with a similar injury?
He isn't as bad as he's been made out to be but his chances of ever justifying a £27.5m fee are very slim.
Kevin says that he's already proven himself though and he's a professor level poster so perhaps Fellaini has already done just that.
Kevin says that he's already proven himself though and he's a professor level poster so perhaps Fellaini has already done just that.
Yeah, but he was having trouble with his back so they decided to kill two birds with one stone and get the operation for his wrist done with.
A cynic might say to remove him from the firing line would be wise at the time, as well...
Id like to see more categories to that. I dont consider myself an expert or a professor level poster. If Kevin reads this I hope he clarifies other categories of poster so we can all pigeon hole ourselves.
Had tendon surgery so it's a bit more than a sprained wrist
I can see the reasoning behind taking him out of the firing line, in the first instance to deal with his "injuries" and more importantly get him to a level of performance that he can be effective for us in games.
But there's no two ways about it - his wrist did need surgery, the question was when it was going to happen.
When he got his back problems Moyes and his team obviously decided they could do the operation and allow his back time to heal at the same time. A sensible decision IMO.
A conspiracy theory is more likely for some.
Would love it if we sold him. Not United material, should never have been signed in the first place imo.
Fletcher's far more mobile and has more energy than Fellaini. We'll be exposed if he gets caught out high up the pitch as he can't get back as quickly as Fletcher would.
He and Carrick just don't look like a good pairing at all on paper.
All very true. Fellaini is useful in a certain style of play. It's not ours.
On paper, it can work. Ideally, we'd be playing with a more energetic and dynamic partnership regardless, however, if we managed to actually press in packs, narrowed the midfield with wide men like Adnan and Kagawa, focused our football more centrally, and bit the bullet and played Smalling and Jones in every game, we'd probably see a very good, effective partnership.
Their biggest problem earlier in the season was Moyes. For some reason, David deemed it wise to play two slow central midfielders in a flat 442 and exaggerate their unchangeable limitations by playing an ancient centre back pairing that couldn't close the gaps, and then telling the golden child to stand right up top next to Van Persie. Carrick and Fellaini were badly let down, isolated and just didn't have the energy to close the massive gaps between defence and midfield and midfield and attack. With a younger, pacier, higher back line and closer links to attack, we could use them well I reckon.
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't give him time to put in the work and adapt to his new role, like many good players have in the past.
If he's only good for playing up top, chesting/heading the ball down and laying the ball off to another player, well then it's never going to work, but I have faith that he's more than that.
You shouldnt have alerted those in here. It might cause a riot.
You could see Fellaini being deployed alongside Carrick for this one, but the form Fletch showed in the second half against Swansea should see him get in.
Looking forward to seeing him back.
Fellaini coming back will be like a new midfield signing. I hope both Fellaini and Jones can start against Chelsea, they fill find their physical presence very tough to handle.
It'll be Carrick along with one of Fletch/Jones/Fellaini and as he's the man in form I'd say Fletch will stay in position.
Drop Valencia and pick one of Fellaini/Jones and a front 3 of Kagawa, Januzaj and Welbeck
I just don't see us getting anywhere near enough width with that set up on whichever side Januzaj isn't on and it would leave us exposed most likely down the right where Hazard or Oscar could exploit 1v1's.
With Rooney and RVP out, is there a chance he's going to play behind the striker on Sunday? It'd be ugly, but I wouldn't be completely against it, considering how lackluster some of our alternative options have been this season. I can't see this game being the game where Kagawa finally comes into his own in the #10 role for us.
I agree completely. My initial point, when I mentioned Anderson, had a degree of facetiousness about it.
I'd like to think it won't be too long before he's proving effective, even if he's not the answer to all our MF issues.But we have 3 defensive minded midfielders to cover in such a scenario. I like width as much as any United fan but let's face it - our wingers are all shite right now or injured.
Fellaini back to training... hope he finds his form quickly again, he will be a crucial and massive chesspiece for us this second half of the season.
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