I'd say that that would be the most favourable deployment of him for us in this game.
Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances
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I'd say that that would be the most favourable deployment of him for us in this game.
Take a potential power midfielder and refuse to let him grow used to his natural postion by lumping him up front... and caftards wonder why he has not shown his worth yet... sigh.
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He's played in midfield here so far.
It's actually behind the striker where he excelled in the league.
It's where he played for Everton, and played very well, arguably more so than when he played deeper for Everton. I'd rather he was our box to box power house. I never said I didn't. But with injuries in our two best strikers, and his experience playing in an advanced position, it really isn't so outrageous to suggest he could play there on Sunday.
Before that, he excelled in the centre of midfield.
Exactly. It's almost as though some are forgetting his 11/12 season.
I cannot contain my excitement that he will be returning to first team training.
I genuinely didn't find it that memorable. I can't ever think of a time I thought Marouane Fellaini was one of the best midfielders in the Premier League and looking at the teams we consider our rivals I think its fair to say he wouldn't displace any of their first choice midfield players. That, to me, is unforgivable.
I'm not saying Fellaini isn't a good player but I don't think he's a £27.5 million player. No, Fellaini wasn't responsible for his price tag and he is a good player but considering the options that would have been available to us had we used that money on another player I can't help but be disappointed.
The signing of Fellaini is one of the main reasons I'll be ok if we don't sign anyone in January: I'd rather get the right player than panic buy the wrong player.
Yeah, I know what your point is, and it's valid, but my point is directed at those who don't seem to remember him playing well as a central midfielder for Everton. I thought the 11/12 was a good season for him, and for me it was the first season where I rated Fellaini. He's obviously not a £27.5 million player, but this fee could have been reduced had we acted quicker. Herrera, who is a better player for me, was also available for us to buy, but we decided to act like children when trying to sign him.
Fellaini has been harshly treated on here IMO, he's not enough time to settle into the side especially with the wrist injury hindering this aspect. Plus, him being the only signing last summer means that criticism would have been a bit over the top. I do think that he'll end up being a good player for us. The games against Crystal Palace, Bayer Leverkusen, and Everton are enough for me to think that he's going to have a solid second half to the season. He does need to sort out his positioning and pressing IMO, but I'll wait until the end of the season before I fully judge him.
Some people on here are just being unfair towards Fellaini. Feel like they have projected all their frustration from the summer and false hopes on him, fueled ofcourse by the fact that we have overpaid to get him. Probably also projecting their frustrations about Moyes on him because he has been his first and only signing so far at this club. I think if SAF would have bought him, the opinions about him would be alot more balanced and he'd probably receive alot more credit and support from certain fans.
Alot of players at this club have been given plenty of support and time to adjust themselves. Some on here are still rating Anderson and believe in him, even after 6 years, yet Fellaini (who has already shown alot more during his time in the PL than Anderson or Cleverley ever have and probably will) is completley written off, after only having played like 6 games (and not even being fully fit in those games because of a wrist and back injurry he was carrying) for us so far in his first season (transitional season nonetheless where plenty of proven players are struggling).
People should just be patient with him, give him the same time and support that you are willing to give to Moyes, wait until his fully fit and the team's situation has stablised a bit, manage your expectations, forget about the price tag and start focussing on the positives in his game rather than on every single negative point about him. The guy is a good player, he has shown is value and class at Everton, he established himself as a proven PL midfielder that was wanted not only by us but also by Chelsea and Arsenal, he is one of the most important players in the Belgian national team. You don't reach that level unless you have some quality to show for it and I really believe Fellaini can use that quality to still make it here at Manchester United. He might not be the ideal player that we needed in the summer, nor will he be the answer to all our midfield troubles but that doesn't mean he can't still be (or become) a valuable player for us. Have a little faith in his ability and show him the same support and respect that has been shown to every other player at this club.
I'm not saying Anderson is better, or Cleverley is better. However, in regards to this point about Fellaini showing more in his time in the EPL than Anderson, while might be true, doesn't tell the whole story.
He was in a side that played to his strengths, United will never play like that. Anderson has far more talent than Fellaini, that doesn't mean that he is better but Fellaini has shown very good attributes but I find it hard to find any that suit United. When Anderson was at his best for us (those first 2 seasons), he looked like a very good player. Fellaini's strengths won't benefit United as I don't see how we can use them.
Again, I'm not writing Fellaini off, I hope he proves me wrong but what he has shown over the years, while impressive, isn't going to benefit us in my opinion.
Anderson's a better player?
Maybe in potential but his time in the PL is decidedly worse than Felliani.
Maybe in potential but his time in the PL is decidedly worse than Felliani.
Any chance of reading.
"that doesn't mean that he is better"
I said in terms of talent, it's just he hasn't shown it on a consistent basis.
Ever make completely pointless comments?
Yes, yes you do.
Who gives a shit if he's more talented? It couldn't be more pointless.
Well you commented on it, so I guess you care.
It's a forum where people are allowed to state their opinion on what they want. I believe Anderson had more potential and talent than Fellaini in terms of ability.
He has shown to be a powerfull strong midfielder that can play in a more defenisve and a more advanced role at Everton. What you say that the team was build around him simply isn't true, Moyes used Fellaini on different positions depending on where he'd be more usefull for the team (so in fact it is the other way around). He is strong, PL proven, he is versatile and can play alot of roles on the midfield (altho not the role of a pass maestro, which is what we are lacking in the midfield), when he is allowed to play further up the pitch he is good for quite a couple of goals and assists, he has shown to be hard worker at Everton and he is a danger at setpieces. I really struggle to see how none of these qualities could be usefull for United, seems like they are universal qualities that are usefull for many teams.
You just prove my point that some people are unfair towards Fellaini. If after 6 games in which he wasn't fully fit and still adpating to his new surroundings you already decided that he will never be a usefull for United, than that is defacto being unfair. Especially given the fact that a fatman like Anderson has been given 6 years to prove his quality, and while failing to do so, alot of people are still defending and supporting him, while Fellaini is just tossed aside like a dirty old rag that will never belong here.
Really looking forward to a fit Fellaini coming back into the side. If he was carrying an injury to his wrist, then that would go some way to explaining why he has fannying around like a budgie with chapped lips, in the middle of the park. I'm sure he was purchased to be played in the middle, and that is where he will settle - i'm sure of it. Sat alongside a more creative passer of the ball, I think he will be quality for us. I may even go as far as bumping this post come the end of the season when he has shut the doubters up.
Playing Devil's Advocate, when we bought Carrick it felt like we'd overpaid a bit. He was a very good player but it wasn't clear he was going to improve us particularly, he felt a squad addition. In retrospect he has been a bargain and has proved himself to be real quality.
Carrick and Felliaini are very different players in how they play but maybe in terms of the circumstances of their arrival the experience of Carrick points to how things could pan out for Fellaini - albeit in a best case scenario.
Carrick and Felliaini are very different players in how they play but maybe in terms of the circumstances of their arrival the experience of Carrick points to how things could pan out for Fellaini - albeit in a best case scenario.
I honestly do think he'll slot in well for us now after he's sorted out his wrist. I know you can say "IT WAS ONLY HIS feckING WRIST!", but he's a physical player - he needs to use his arms to make space.
It'll be great if he started tomorrow - the more physical our midfield, the better.
It'll be great if he started tomorrow - the more physical our midfield, the better.
Have you ever wondered how would he looked if he shaved off his afro??
I think he'll be fine.
No pre season. No time to settle. Playing in a team that was underperforming. He was unimpressive.
I've seen enough of him to know he can be good enough for us..
Maybe not the best midfielder at the club. Probably not even the first choice if things go well and we add well.. But there is room for him in the squad.
How much we paid doesnt matter. We have him.. He's here. He'll be a part.
Having him back fit again would be great
No pre season. No time to settle. Playing in a team that was underperforming. He was unimpressive.
I've seen enough of him to know he can be good enough for us..
Maybe not the best midfielder at the club. Probably not even the first choice if things go well and we add well.. But there is room for him in the squad.
How much we paid doesnt matter. We have him.. He's here. He'll be a part.
Having him back fit again would be great
He looks better with the fro!
I think that's the problem people have with him. We have 4 midfielders who should be squad players at the moment, none of who would be starting at any other top team. Fellaini is just adding more of the same, which isn't good enough, and people can't ignore the price considering how we've been a bit tight with prices the last few years, which made us lose out on the likes of Lucas and hazard over a few million. He just doesn't add much more then depth and an option to hoof it up field late on in games if we need it, IMO.
I didn't say the team was built around him, I said they played to his strengths, he suited their style. Premier League proven means nothing, we have seen players move between clubs and flop and overseas players come in and do very well, it looks good on paper to have Premier League experience but at the end of the day, means nothing, it's the past.
And on being unfair, I'm not judging him on his time at United, not at all. I am judging him on the years at Everton. He is dangerous in and around the box, he can cause so much trouble, we know that only too well as we have been on the wrong end but the players that United have/want to have in those areas are your Rooney's, Kagawa's and hopefully world class players, not Fellaini.
Is he available for tomorrow's game or is it too soon?
Watched his game against Crystal Palace.. He definitely looks to play simple in that game.. confidence? price tag? Anyway once he gets a goal or two, and gains some confidence.. think he can be the aggressiveness we are missing in the centre of the field.
Playing against 10 men Palace side at Old Trafford, any player could come in and make it look simple. It was a great situation to introduce him. Can't look to that game and see what he has to offer. Have to look at when a player is tested.
When is the lad back from injury? He might not be very good, but the team needs some actual midfielders right now.
God he's ugly.
Completely forgot this guy even pays for us! Says a lot that bebe and lingard threads are higher up than this one!
Any news on when he might be back had he been training whilst off? With carrick injured, I dare say we need him!
Any news on when he might be back had he been training whilst off? With carrick injured, I dare say we need him!
Going by the dates, he should be back for the Cardiff game. I am actually looking forward to seeing him back. Reckon with the spotlight/excitement being on Mata - reckon he'll just go about his business now.
I too forgot about him. Cant say i miss him at all. Hope Jones and Fletcher create an impossible to break partnership so to human mic warms the bench.
The forgotten man. Even Moyes thought Mata was his first buy.
That's what I'm hoping for. We all know he's a better player than he's showed so far and he was quite impressive in the first half against EVerton
I saw that :-D
I interpreted it more as Mata being the first exciting, world class signing we've made under Moyes.
I wonder was he ever at full fitness for us?
Hopefully he comes back and kicks on now, he certainly has a lot more about him than he has shown.
Hopefully he comes back and kicks on now, he certainly has a lot more about him than he has shown.
Whoever bumped this, thanks for reminding me we had this guy. There was such a positive vibe around the place.
In all seriousness though, it's that time of the season where we need players fit, so hopefully he does get back out there soon and allow us to give Fletcher a rest at times. So hopefully we can see a better Fellaini than what we have seen.
In all seriousness though, it's that time of the season where we need players fit, so hopefully he does get back out there soon and allow us to give Fletcher a rest at times. So hopefully we can see a better Fellaini than what we have seen.
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