Yeah, you can tell because Moyes' 2D face is at the slight angle.
Why would Moyes need a cardboard cutout stand-in?
Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances
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Yeah, you can tell because Moyes' 2D face is at the slight angle.
Why would Moyes need a cardboard cutout stand-in?
I can't look directly at it. It burns.
thats funny shit...
Clearly Moyes doesn't actually exist. Been Fergie all along....
Yeah, you can tell because Moyes' 2D face is at the slight angle.
Why would Moyes need a cardboard cutout stand-in?
Moyes seems thinking "So this guy is my playmaker? Really? I am screwed"
You don't give up, do you?
FFS look at the picture. Moyes looks like as if someone told him that Fellaini has a yersinia pestis but he still have to take a photo with him.
We laughed at that photo about five days ago. Fellaini will never be a playmaker but he will definitely "add" to the team.
I was only commenting about the photo. To be fair its the same smile I had when I met my non United friends the day after the transfer deadline had passed.
I agree with those saying giving Kagawa time is now a priority; Nani too. Enough with the conservatism - it hasn't exactly served us well.
Nonsense. Carrick's a brilliant defender. Sure he's not a great tackler, but he doesn't need to be - he just positions himself brilliantly so he can pick passes off. See if there's still that video from when he was in Schalke, nothing got past him that night. His awareness and anticipation are up there with the best in world football.
I don't believe Fellaini has the brain to do that, but considering how we play, he could with developing it.
WHY IS THIS RETARD NOT BANNED YET?
Like a fecking virus that you can't remove from your computer.
^ That goes for plenty of posters here, Rowem
They can both get plenty of time in the side, Moyes just needs to ditch Giggs, Cleverley and Valencia to do it.
Cleverley still has a role to play in squad rotation - hopefully the extra competition will drive him. Valencia is a good squad option too - I thought he was terrific at right back against Liverpool. Giggs has become a waste of time - it's no sleight on his overall United career, but he's now a passenger and I hope Moyes abandons our silly reliance on him.
He's got pretty much the perfect game to make his debut in as well. I'm very interested to see how he does.
Ditch is probably too harsh, but Moyes should definitely favour Fellaini, Nani and Kagawa over the other 3. We need players who can get a goal from nothing, somtheing we sorley missed against Chelsea and Liverpool.
He's not a brilliant defender. Makelele was a brilliant defender. It's become very fashionable to call anyone who relies on defensive positioning a great defender. If Carrick was a gifted tackler then he'd be a great defender. It's good to not have to win the ball of the attacker and physically impose yourself, but it's far better to also be able to do that. Also he does sit quite deep so it's a bit easier for him to be well positioned as opposed to more dynamic midfielders.
If Carrick was SUCH a great defender, he'd do better at centre back than he has every time he's played there. He's good defensively for me, and has a good pass on him.
The only problem Carrick has in defense is that he doesn't have Carrick playing in front of him.
No, if you notice (I think it came up in a thread on here a while ago, probably Brwned's thread/post), people rely on tackling much less often these days.
Go back over half a century, and I heard someone recall that passing was almost seen as cowardly. You'd try and beat your defender, and he'd try and kick you off the ball. As time's gone on, fewer people run with the ball, especially from midfield, so Carrick (and every other midfielder) doesn't need to tackle as much; it's more important to correctly position yourself to cut off potential avenues for the attacker to go down.
But no, as I've said, tackling isn't as important as it was. How often do you hear people say "They're taking tackling out of the game"? It's because you can't tackle any more, so people don't. How often did Makelele play in defence? How often did Mascherano play in defence (his Barca stuff doesn't count, as you need to be a better footballer than defender to get in there - Song, Pique, Masch etc.)? There's a difference between defensive play in midfield and defence. They require different attributes.
Are you joking? It's a completely different game offering defensive protection in midfield to playing at centre back. Not to mention the fact he was drafted in for the odd game.
How do you predict his United career to pan out? And how do you rate him as a PL midfielder?
Someone brilliant defensively would still do well there, unless maybe height was an issue which it isn't for Carrick. He's good defensively but I wouldn't say he's brilliant. He's hardly a rock no one gets past.
I do agree in general that positioning is half the battle won in terms of defending, but there's more to defending than just defending space and sitting back. Imposing yourself, getting a foot in, muscling the attacker off the ball and being able to close down space rapidly are all also great traits to have.
I've not really seen too much of him other than highlights and whenever Everton played us. His size and heading/chesting ability seem the only really remarkable things (I can't remember ever being impressed with his passing or technical ability) about him.
I don't think you'd have signed him if Fergie was still your boss but of course there's no way of knowing that. Moyes knows him, what he can do and has a plan.
If I had to make a prediction, he'll tear it up in games like you have next weekend but be out of his depth against the better sides (especially in Europe).
Feel a bit sorry for Cleverley (I guess he'll be the one whose place Fellaini takes), as an England fan I would prefer him to play as much as possible.
You're underrating Carrick's tackling. He often does get the foot in and win the ball back. He's stronger than you think too.
Some of the touches in that video should quieten a few of the haters like the little backheel flick around 3.15. They wont of course because they would prefer him to fail.
The problem with Welbeck is you have to play him as a striker or he is ineffective mostly. In order to do that you are going to have to play 2 forwards because he wont start in front of RVP as a lone striker. So if you want to play him Rooney will suffer and Chicharito will never get a game and to me Welbeck is the worst finisher of the four. Kagawa basically is fecked under Moyes I dont really see him getting many games.
You two are so paranoid.
Him not being Spanish isn't the reason people don't like him and no United fan would like to see him fail now that he plays for us. Most have said that they will love him to prove them wrong so stop spouting bullshit. People don't have to like him and his style of play, it'd be fake as hell of all those opposing the signing suddenly were proclaiming him to be the best midfielder ever after we signed him, but I doubt there is a single United fan that doesn't want him to succeed in a United shirt.
Nah, some one here are more interested in signings than the football and love to say I told you so. Not many, but some.
I find that hard to believe. I was one of those opposing Fellaini's signing because I don't rate him, but we've signed him and now I hope he proves me wrong. I'll be the first to admit how wrong I was if that's the case. I'm sure everyone else who wasn't keen on him will be the same. We don't all have to like the same players, its simply a matter of personal preference.
Correct. I didn't like him last season, and said so frequently. And this was before there was any indication he'd sign for us or that Fergie would leave. It'd be awfully fickle of me to proclaim him as the next big thing as soon as he signs for us.
Another transfer window, another gut-wrenching disappointment for devilish as United have signed the wrong players AGAIN.
No one knows what Moyes has in mind. He's still settling in a team which wasn't built by him. Fellaini is his first signing and he will bring on the table characteristics which the team haven't had for quite some time. I believe that the Fellaini-Carrick tandem will give us the defensive backbone needed to play more attacking minded players.
Honestly I cannot figure out how United are going to play. Im confident that Fellaini-Carrick will be our first team CM. However considering the versatility of both players (they can both play as DM or in CM with Fellaini capable to play behind the main striker) its difficult to point what Moyes has in mind. If you ask me, I think that they will constantly change roles. Such strategy would make us more unpredictable.
One must also take in account that we may still searching for a playmaker. That would suggest that Moyes would want a 3 men CM.
Honestly I cannot figure out how United are going to play. Im confident that Fellaini-Carrick will be our first team CM. However considering the versatility of both players (they can both play as DM or in CM with Fellaini capable to play behind the main striker) its difficult to point what Moyes has in mind. If you ask me, I think that they will constantly change roles. Such strategy would make us more unpredictable.
One must also take in account that we may still searching for a playmaker. That would suggest that Moyes would want a 3 men CM.
Absolute bollocks. He wasnt Fabregas he couldn't pass has no touch and is a long ball donkey according to idiots on here stop trying to gloss over it. People didnt want him because they never watched him properly
Again you're paranoid.
Has nothing to do with not being Spanish its simply because people don't think he's a good footballer and you need to get your head around that. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Yes people might think he's not the best passer and is more suited to a long ball team. That's a fair enough opinion. People of that opinion will still hope he does well in a United shirt and proves them wrong.
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