We may as well play him as a striker considering our infinite cross tactics. He can throw his afro at the ball and bundle in some goals. feck it, where's Rory Delap these days? Lets go full Stoke.
Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances
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We may as well play him as a striker considering our infinite cross tactics. He can throw his afro at the ball and bundle in some goals. feck it, where's Rory Delap these days? Lets go full Stoke.
Hmm, I remember such stuff about Carrick: write him off, he'll never improve. Not United quality.
I was against his signing but as long as he's playing for us, I'll try and look for the positives. He's certainly not a creator, nor is he a box-to-box powerhouse like Keane or Robbo, but he's young and I was pleased with his performance tonight. Time will tell.
Well we'll see, in my opinion he is worse than Carrick who I'm sure we can agree is our best midfielder, but also Cleverly.
Like I said I want to be wrong about him.
I remember watching Michael Carrick before United signed him and thinking "that's an absolutely excellent midfielder".
I don't remember watching Fellaini and thinking anything else than "well he's a bit of a nuisance playing for a team hoofing it up the pitch".
And why the feck do you make this an either/or situation? Moyes told the press he wanted two CMs. Just because we signed Fellaini for one role does not mean he did not want another for another roles.
Signing Fellaini didn't deny you your muppet joy. United not agreeing on their valuation did.
Either we as fans hope he isn't on big wages so it makes the transfer fee more acceptable, and we use him as back up to Carrick, or we ask Everton for a refund?
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This. I'm not sure what type of player people were expecting. Every flaw he has shown so far was evident when he was at Everton.
Why did we sign Fellaini at all? I don't want a specific muppet signing, I want a signing that is suited to our midfield. Or two signings that are suited to our midfield.
Fellaini is an expensive player that won't add anything to our midfield.
And I can't remember wanting a second striker to play ahead of Kagawa. We've got Rooney.
We might need to buy 2 CM in Jan as Fellaini could be one of the biggest flops ever.
Aren't you very perceptive? A right little oracle of football. Must be a genius at fantasy football.
Or you could go back and check the early Carrick threads on here and address my point.
Exactly. Nothing I've seen from him so far is surprising.
Carrick had spells where he was written off, but he was signed as an actual central midfielder who was an accomplished passer of the ball, and his first season was one of his better ones. Fellaini isn't an out and out central midfielder, and doesn't actually appear to be a very good passer.
And just because Carrick prevailed through criticism means all players will. Anderson hasn't, for example. People said we simply had to have faith in Anderson, but it's meant nothing and he'll ultimately go down as a flop. Just because Carrick succeeded after criticism does not mean Fellaini will, and it's just such a shit argument really.
What point would it prove? Being wrong about one player doesn't mean they'll be wrong about another.
We only have Carrick and Cleverley who are good enough as central midfielders, so at the very least he's a useful squad option. I think he proved against Leverkusen that he can be a good central midfielder for us, yes we overpaid for him, but that's football.
Either we as fans hope he isn't on big wages so it makes the transfer fee more acceptable, and we use him as back up to Carrick, or we ask Everton for a refund?
I don't think that Martinez would fancy him too much. They have also signed a cheaper midfielder, who if not already, will soon become a much better player than him.
I think some of the reactions are over the top.
He was shite, yes. But he was utilised in a way he should never have been for Manchester United. He is a defensive midfielder, an anchor, and should never ever be played anywhere else. It's up to Moyes to cop that.
He was shite, yes. But he was utilised in a way he should never have been for Manchester United. He is a defensive midfielder, an anchor, and should never ever be played anywhere else. It's up to Moyes to cop that.
The only point is that players do improve after time when they come to United. Writing them off us not always a good idea. Seems obvious to me. But football oracles like marjen are obviously never wrong.
But we don't play with an anchor and probably won't. So what do we do with him then? It's like we bought an anchor for the boat, before deciding to take the train instead.
I'm hoping he's not fully fit. Surely Moyes will know something we have yet to witness.
Well if we're further gonna incorporate the three man midfield of tonight, as I suspect we will after the City and Liverpool leasons, there'll be room for an anchor man. Carrick and Cleverely should have been further forward than Fellaini. Moyes will eventually learn that Fellaini is not technically near good enough to play in the final third for us.
Carrick had a rocky start at United. Look at the threads. But he improved. Anderson never improved.
It's down to Fellaini which way he goes.
But marjen has seen the future. He will never improve. So we don't need to wait.
Not all players improve though and even then it still might not be enough. I think people are entitled to an opinion on Fellaini given how long he's played in the Premier League. If he was an unknown then I'd agree that it would be mindless to write him off so soon. He isn't though.
And Carrick was a PL unknown?
No, I think it's mindless to write off Fellaini.
I sure as hell can't guarantee he will improve.
But I don't see how posters like marjen can guarantee he will not improve.
The thing is, even a lot of top teams who play with a midfield three will tend to put a deeper lying player who's still fairly accomplished on the ball. Look at Busquets, for example. He's generally the deepest in the midfield three, but he's an excellent footballer on the ball. Fellaini isn't. If we're trying to keep possession in a game, he's not going to be very useful in that regard. You want an anchor to be fairly mobile too, but Fellaini hasn't shown any signs of that so far and looks out of place and immobile in this team.
He looks incredibly nervous. He's nowhere near as shite as tonight would suggest.
He was deplorable tonight.
He was deplorable tonight.
Baby steps, my friend. We're far off the Barcelona's and Bayern Munich's, we've a long way to go before we can start talking about matching them like for like.
That's true obviously, we're miles off them, but I'd like to think we're still a top team and very few top teams like to use a very restricted anchor.
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Thing is, I suppose, is we don't really know what Moyes sees Fellaini as for us. All we know is that he offers something different to what we already have. I would assume, and hope to Jaysus, that he'll be used as a defensive midfielder and nothing more.
On a positive he got an assist tonight....so he can't be that shit!
Hopefully, it's just I'm only partly convinced by him there. It's not like we're seeing a top signing out of position who will be excellent if we move him to a more suitable role. We're seeing someone who will improve if he's given a defensive midfield role, but might still look fairly average and out of place nevertheless.
If United had bought the second CM that Moyes wanted then there would not so much focus on him needing to be the answer to all midfield problems. But that's the way it's going to be until January at least.
I was afraid referees could give everything against him in CL, and it turned out to be true.
As for his performance, this was really poor. Cleverley looks much better player at the moment, and some people laughed when some of us were saying that before we bought him. I still think he could be good for us though, but his performances so far(apart from that vs LEverkusen) don't look too promising.
As for his performance, this was really poor. Cleverley looks much better player at the moment, and some people laughed when some of us were saying that before we bought him. I still think he could be good for us though, but his performances so far(apart from that vs LEverkusen) don't look too promising.
He was far from alright. He ambled about like he wasn't supposed to be there and had just sauntered in off the street. He seems to make no effort whatsoever to win the ball back on the many occasions he gives it away. He looks fecking lazy, and half arsed, when he should be busting his balls to make an impression.
No but he'd only been back in the Premier League two years. Besides, Carrick has absolutely noting to do with Fellaini.
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