Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances

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Revan said:
I really love to know where does it came idea that he has been our best midfielder since his injury. It must be that people are desperate to see him do well, that even semi acceptable performances will be labelled as very good and will give the best midfielder in our team title. It isn't the case though, I genuinely think that even with all the decline of Carrick he has been a better player and Fletcher has been better too. Fellaini is so incoonsistent, unpredictable and stupid to even be considered for that.
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Indeed. He's been a disaster for us this season. Too slow, can't pass, can't tackle. But hey, his chest control. Look at that will you.

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Eric'sCollar said:
Carrick has been well below par but is still miles ahead. Fletcher is by far a better player but I guess you can argue minutes on the pitch count to an overall opinion and on top of that, a 40 year old Giggs shows far more than he does.

I am not a fan of Fellaini but I agree that some of the stick is over the top but to say he is currently our best midfielder is just wrong.

Game of opinions though I guess.
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He certainly hasn't looked it this season. It's faint praise but Fellaini has been significantly better than Fletcher in 2014.
 
Eric'sCollar said:
Carrick has been well below par but is still miles ahead. Fletcher is by far a better player but I guess you can argue minutes on the pitch count to an overall opinion and on top of that, a 40 year old Giggs shows far more than he does.

I am not a fan of Fellaini but I agree that some of the stick is over the top but to say he is currently our best midfielder is just wrong.

Game of opinions though I guess.
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Carrick and Fletcher have both been poor this season. Fellaini has been decent, which is hardly pulling up trees but better than them. I love Fletch but he isn't close to the player he was pre injury. Likewise Carrick isn't a shadow of himself under Fergie, particularly last year. I agree that at their peak both were significantly better, but right now Fellaini is our best midfielder IMO.
 
mufcwarm92 said:
Carrick and Fletcher have both been poor this season. Fellaini has been decent, which is hardly pulling up trees but better than them. I love Fletch but he isn't close to the player he was pre injury. Likewise Carrick isn't a shadow of himself under Fergie, particularly last year. I agree that at their peak both were significantly better, but right now Fellaini is our best midfielder IMO.
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Carricks is still (sadly) our best midfielder, Fletcher would be the best if he could play several games in a row. Fellaini has been a bit disappointing
 
kouroux said:
Carricks is still (sadly) our best midfielder, Fletcher would be the best if he could play several games in a row. Fellaini has been a bit disappointing
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Purely on performances in 2014, our midfield pecking order would be:

Carrick
Fellaini
Cleverley
Fletcher

Fellaini's big problem has been his performances against top opposition. All of our players have looked mediocre in those games but he has looked the most out of his depth. Which is obviously a big worry.

Also, not one of those four names has been consistently good. Which is also a worry.
 
Talking Vulture said:
He's just not very good and nothing I've seen this season from him suggests anything other.
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Since he's come back from injury I think he's shown he's a decent player. As I said before, nothing spectacular, but significantly better than the seriously poor performance level of the rest of our midfield.

Doesn't change the fact we need two midfielders in the summer, one holder and one creator. Even then, I think he'll be a decent option in the squad long term, whereas Fletcher and Carrick, brilliant as they've been in the past, won't be.
 
mufcwarm92 said:
Since he's come back from injury I think he's shown he's a decent player. As I said before, nothing spectacular, but significantly better than the seriously poor performance level of the rest of our midfield.

Doesn't change the fact we need two midfielders in the summer, one holder and one creator. Even then, I think he'll be a decent option in the squad long term, whereas Fletcher and Carrick, brilliant as they've been in the past, won't be.
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I honestly don't agree that's he's shown he's a decent player. But to give your judgement the benefit of the doubt, I think signing a player for £27.5m, you'd expect something more than decent.

He was a good outlet for Everton, his strengths were utilised for the type of player he is. He's never a United player. I seriously doubt he wil prove me wrong.
It's all about opinions though, that's the beauty of football. Obviously yours is wrong and mine is right..... :)
 
ravelston said:
He's our leading tackler, second in interceptions, second only to Vidic in aerial duels won, and is our leading non-defender in clearances. I'm not sure what else he's supposed to do defensively.
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Not that surprising regarding the aerial duels and clearances; I haven't seen these stats, but these days Fellaini is probably more mobile than our other regular defensive midfielders, and he does leave his position to give chase and try to tackle more often than them. If you've actually watched any of the matches he's played in though, you'll know that he gets beaten very easily, doesn't get back when he's supposed to, loses track of runners and offers very little protection to his back four unless he's defending a set piece.
I'm not sure if there are any stats that would show these things, perhaps there's a stat for number of 1-on-1s lost (defensively) or something like that.
 
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Sultan said:
I'd rather trust my observations than statistics which can be manipulated to suit an agenda. If you check my posting history you'll hardly find me being overly negative of our players.

Fellaini probably falls in the category of worst midfield players over the last few decades to have played for United. The list is not that big. IIRC Ralph Milne, Djemba Djemba, and Kleberson comes immediately to mind. There will have been others, but they've generally been from our youth system.
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Wow that's harsh and a little premature I think. Certainly not like you with our players.

I like the potential steel he brings, we have been too soft in midfield for a while. We needed cnut imho
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Purely on performances in 2014, our midfield pecking order would be:

Carrick
Fellaini
Cleverley
Fletcher

Fellaini's big problem has been his performances against top opposition. All of our players have looked mediocre in those games but he has looked the most out of his depth. Which is obviously a big worry.

Also, not one of those four names has been consistently good. Which is also a worry.
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I would still put Fletcher over Cleverley but Fletch can't play that many games unfortunately. The thing I have liked the most about him is his positive passing.
 
I really don't want him to start tonight - his performance against City is still haunting me...
 
So apparently Moyes is torn if he should play big Mar in the number 10 position or little Shinji. It is a lose lose situation in my opinion. Shinji will probably spend all game chasing shadows whilst Fella will put his elbow through one and get sent off.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Purely on performances in 2014, our midfield pecking order would be:

Carrick
Fellaini
Cleverley
Fletcher

Fellaini's big problem has been his performances against top opposition. All of our players have looked mediocre in those games but he has looked the most out of his depth. Which is obviously a big worry.

Also, not one of those four names has been consistently good. Which is also a worry.
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Flechter hasnt played much but imho played better in those games than Fellaini i his best games. Shame Fletcher cannot be used more often.
 
Sultan said:
Fellaini has so far appeared to be horribly short of the basic standard required to be a United midfielder.

I can understand a lack of quality in a footballer, not every player can be endowed with the greatest talent. What irks me is his lack of effort and application which simply cannot be excused at this level. It's been embarrassing as a United fan seeing how easily opposing midfielders have just run past him. He is either simply lazy or lacks energy judging by his slow motion tracking back when caught up-field. For a supposed hard man he is timid in his tackling to any loose ball on the ground, and his constant fouling if anyone challenges him for the ball above waist high is just a red card waiting to happen.

Rant over
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Spot on Sults. He's a terrible terrible footballer.

All his positive attributes are his ability in the air, and his chest control (which is admittedly fantastic).
 
BennyBlanco said:
The anti-fellaini agenda on here is really starting to depress me, I may not have rated some United purchases/players in the past but I've been openminded enough to accept and acknowledge decent performances from those in question despite my longterm concerns lingering so it's rather sad when others on here aren't even able to do even that.
Fellaini yesterday had a mediocre first half, grew into the game and by the end you would say he had a decent outing, yet you come on here and read the usual "shocking display" "not good enough" "won't ever take us forward" etc etc
Could you lot just remain fair minded enough to actually consider the reality that since his return from his lay off, he's been a steady performer and had a few very good outings for us, in particular the West Brom and Palace games spring to mind, meaning hes had more decent outings than disapointing.

Was he worth 27million? no, his fee was vastly inflated due to our desperation at the time, but coming on here and seeing the same people just slate him over and over regardless of his performance is really boring to witness and frankly, pathetic.
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It's more to do with what he represents, I believe. He's kind of a symbol of everything that is wrong with Moyes' tenure.

He's not a bad player, though, by any means.
 
Needs to be taken off at halftime. Has he even passed the ball to a United player?
 
Was picked ahead of Kagawa (an actual footballer). David Moyes ladies and gents.
 
I thought Ashley Young was the worst buy in our recent history, but Fellaini is something else. I mean seriously I never thought he'd be a very good footballer, but he lacks the skills to make me believe he is actually a pro football player.
 
The worst individual performance I have seen at this level. He's three steps behind everything.
 
Lance Uppercut said:
Yes. Miss him setting up Rooney?
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And what about giving the ball away in our half twice in less than 5 mins. One of which was in a dangerous position. For a big man, he cannot even win headers against Kroos.
 
:lol: he's been absolutely awful so far. Passing it around him, or whenever he gets it he loses it right away. Just pure shit against decent opposition as always. We need fletcher on instead of him.
 
NK86 said:
And what about giving the ball away in our half twice in less than 5 mins. One of which was in a dangerous position. For a big man, he cannot even win headers against Kroos.
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What about it? The poster asked a question. I answered.

Also, you might have missed it, but EVERYONE has been giving the ball away.
 
He is really worse than Djemba Djemba. What I am surprised is how he almost always losses air duels, that cannot be justified.
 
Fellaini absolutely appalling. Gets the ball in acres of space time and again, 3 touches and Bayern have it back. Needs to be taken off.
 
Don't like jumping in on the guy with criticism but he really does look out of place here. A game at this level is beyond him, I think.
 
He hasn't been good at all. As usual though aLot go over the top about him. He has been given the ball in some very tricky situations at times when we would have been better playing it a bit longer.

Bayern have been on him and the rest of our midfielders so fast. They close down very well indeed.
 
If Moyes is serious about building something here he needs to bite the bullet and dump this guy, he made the mistake but he should rectify it immediately before hes worth nothing.
 
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