i don't share your view mate - i think he did ok. I expected him to win more headers tbh but i don't think he should take all the blame in the goal incident. I think it was more lack of communication between him and the defender (jones?). But in general he worked his socks out like the rest of the team. I know this won't go down very well here but that's my opinion.
Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances
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I thought that he was really poor in the first half but picked up in the second and was half decent. He was responsible for Schweinsteiger's goal, he was close to him but failed to follow him in.
I'm not sure Fletcher would be an upgrade on him. Fellaini, for his horrid touch and laboured running does bring some physicality to the midfield and is dangerous during set-pieces. He needs to show more hunger though, he should be winning every ball in the air, no excuses.
Maybe next week we won't need him with those two midfield beasts missing for them.
Maybe next week we won't need him with those two midfield beasts missing for them.
It has to be a wind up that people are coming in here and blaming Fellani solely for the goal. The croat cnut stepped back and won a header Ferdinand should have lapped up all day.
Fellani could have tracked back maybe but there was a whole defence who did nothing. As for him not doing anything when the stats show the distance he covered and tackles/possessions he kept it will be clear most having a go switch off unless they see him do something wrong.
Some of the worst posters and 'fans' I have seen since the Berbatov days are strong with this one.
Also how the hell is he so bad in the air? He's almost 2 meters tall and he barely gets off the ground or puts in the effort to jump to win headers. A guy his size you'd think would be useful in the air but he's been awful in that respect for us this season.
I think Fletcher would be an upgrade purely from a positioning point of view.
Fair enough, opinions and all that.
I'm not even thinking of the goal we conceded, it's more in general play that he looked a few rungs below everyone surrounding him.
He obviously had a very specific job to do tactically (notice him pressing very far forward at times which had to be deliberate on Moyes' part) but didn't perform the role well enough to justify his place in the team imo.
I can't believe anyone is still defending him, he has no place in a rebuilding of this side, at best he's the guy you throw on for desperate lump the ball in situations in the last 10 minutes. Clumsy, slow and sloppy, he was out-jumped more than once and ran off multiple times including for the goal.
yeah, that would perhaps be the only upgrade. Actually, we might benefit from Fellaini playing even more next week given they'll lack the height in the team.
Saw a different player to most here. I thought he did a lot of important work.
Thought he was okay, one of our poorer players though. Was utilised well as a target man, but often gave the ball away.
The point I wanted to make is that I everytime I see him play for Manchester United I can't help but feel it is not a good match, the club and the player.
The point I wanted to make is that I everytime I see him play for Manchester United I can't help but feel it is not a good match, the club and the player.
I agree but he lost possession on countless occasions. There was a period where they were dominating and the ball fell to him thrice, only for him to give it away.
What does it matter when he can't win a header. His air duels were 2/8 today, even Alaba won an air duel with him.
Rooney kept covering for him on the contrary and then Moyes left him up front with Kagawa in midfield. Pretty sure that is how he is utilized in our big games as he is not good enough in midfield against better players.
Really concerned at his complete lack of physical presence.
Don't want to comment too much on what I thought of his performance as I'm proud of all the players and his constant mistakes didn't cost us (goal debatable, not going to throw blame at him there), so there isn't anything new but his pace and presence, or lack thereof is really starting to get to me.
Don't want to comment too much on what I thought of his performance as I'm proud of all the players and his constant mistakes didn't cost us (goal debatable, not going to throw blame at him there), so there isn't anything new but his pace and presence, or lack thereof is really starting to get to me.
He's not just shit, but a liability. All of those people defending him because he had 6 or 7/10 performances against West Brom, West Ham and Crystal Palace need to look at every game he's had against decent opposition. He's trying to be Steven Gerrard when he can barely control the football and it was fecking hearbreaking to see him jogging back goal side about 10 seconds after our other midfielders had gotten behind the ball. Who does he think he is?
He lost his man. Should've been tracking him. Its something he is very poor at. His reaction after the goal tells it all..he knew he should've done better
aye. I'm not his biggest fan, so I feel a bit prang defending him. I just think even though he offers little, he at least provides options, those options may worry the opposition. I wouldn't fancy missing two of my first 11 who bring height, against a team that will relish every corner and free kick.
If we're talking future, I don't think we've got 1 of what should be our midfield 2 at the club yet. Carrick would be a great 3rd option next season. Fellaini/Fletcher/Cleverley could battle it out for who comes 4th (that's my order of preference)
If we're talking future, I don't think we've got 1 of what should be our midfield 2 at the club yet. Carrick would be a great 3rd option next season. Fellaini/Fletcher/Cleverley could battle it out for who comes 4th (that's my order of preference)
The whole defense tried to get the ball. You expect two defenders to defend 4 players when one of them is a midfielder coming into the box? Fellaini just stood there ball watching while Schweiny positioned himself for the knockdown.
Phil Jones is a far more accomplished central midfielder than Fellaini will ever be.
I really don't see this physicallity.
For a start, he looks like a twig.
And secondly, he has to be the shortest 6 foot 4 person in the world.
Exactly. Not just midfielders but even Rooney kept tracking back to cover his arse while he kept jogging at his merry pace.
He didn't lose him, he never had him. He could see Schweingster in space and did not make any sort of urgent movement towards him. I get frustrated seeing this guy strut around like Cantona, despite having the football ability of Alan Smith.
Anyone else lose the ball or a header?
I can think of one important one of the top of my head, oh yeah Ferdinand for the goal but he's not a CB who should win in the air is he?
Playing that position against that team the turnovers is pretty good, the header stat is poor but something you will see over the longterm is an anomaly, already he has the most headers won in our entire team all season except defenders, but whatever suits the agenda.
Sorry to do this to everyone, but this is not a 'hardman' physique.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md4nu2LGCV1ro3lkj.jpg
He looks like he could snap, and probably has a higher centre of gravity than Stephen Merchant.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md4nu2LGCV1ro3lkj.jpg
He looks like he could snap, and probably has a higher centre of gravity than Stephen Merchant.
Please. Nobody else on our team had that many turnovers. 4 turnovers and being dispossessed 3 times is awful. And Rio was always moving back for that header, harsh to blame him for 1 where he was second favourite to win anyway, but Fellaini was getting out jumped all game by people who are shorter by 4-5 inches. It just shouldn't happen.
Sorry wasn't meant to be personal, just could not spell his name. Ferdinand should have won the header and you have no idea if he was supposed to be tracking him, in fact he was upfield in that part of play and would have had to come back a long way.
At least my dig was at an opposing player, some people are calling Fellani much worse and he is our player.
Too slow, couldn't find a pass with a satnav. Might be good enough against West Brom/West Ham, but not against the top teams. A squad player at best...one that cost £27m.
Context is important, he was right in the middle against a formidable midfield, when you look at some of them you will see he had little on, no surprise it improved second half when Kagawa game more options.
Weak link tonight. His lack of game intelligence is telling when he's looking at the opposition player who scores.
I didn't expect much from him really, but Carrick really upped his game and had no problem picking people out, not losing the ball often and actually put in some good tackles. Fellaini made plenty of mistakes and was just caught out so many times today, as its happened in all big games. He improved a little, was still pretty bad though and I think Jones would be so much better for the second leg there to add real energy in midfield and he's somebody who always gives his all and is good at winning headers to boot.
Even if you ignore Fellaini fecking everything else up, he was still at fault for their goal. He just didn't play well, at all.
He was the weak link tonight (as mentioned above), but had some good moments where he broke up the play and actually stepped in to try and stop a move (foul or not) when Carrick/Giggs were overrun (a common theme). Still think he isn't good enough, though. Perhaps as a squad player.
Too right. Even Berbatov could pull it off
Poor first half, OK second half.
Still needs to be more of an aerial threat
Still needs to be more of an aerial threat
He was our most accurate passer besides our centre backs tonight, even more than Carrick. Lazy criticism, his passing has been proven to be pretty good since his return.
He is actually hindering us. It's one thing just coasting along not doing much and another when someone is actually negatively affecting the team. Against quality opposition he's a big, useless, clumsy, good for nothing, liability.
Poor here.
This was stated many times in this thread and it has cost us tonight.
Was hoping it was down to his back injury but since he has come back its the same lack of urgency while defending.
Ferdinand's 50 million years old ffs, we've just signed Fellaini to answer our midfield woes
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