Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch

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Didn’t the athletic say we could change our minds based on CL performances

If Ajax qualify surely that makes Tem Hag favourite
 
Gone after the season ends, even with a domestic double.

Keep him away from OT, please. Ten Hag in.

Feel like he’ll want out now and PSG will want Zidane in asap. Would be classic United to have some plan in place but throw it out the window now because he’s going to get sacked and will be a free agent.

For losing to bayern in the final. Insane.

Wasn’t Tuchel sacked for a fallout with Leonardo and some players?
 
It's not but the man has a reputation of bottling and this didn't help

18 months at PSG and he’ll have 1/2 titles, 1x cup, CL last 16 exit with Neymar, Mbappe and Messi!

The other coaches they’ve had have been winning domestic trebles and getting CL QF, SF and final appearances.

It doesn’t reflect well on him.
 
Exactly. He has his issues but this tie is hardly the reason to not hire him

Yep. It would be the same if ETH bombed out of Europe. If your opinion is swayed by a single game then it wasn't built on much to begin with.

The real factor here is what this does in terms of Poch's availability and how much weight the people in charge of our club place on that when it comes to the financial costs of appointing the next manager.
 
Feel like he’ll want out now and PSG will want Zidane in asap. Would be classic United to have some plan in place but throw it out the window now because he’s going to get sacked and will be a free agent.



Wasn’t Tuchel sacked for a fallout with Leonardo and some players?

Wouldn’t it be nice for a change for us to stick to the plan and get Ten Hag (if that is the plan).

Maybe Spurs will take Poch back.
 
I can understand people not wanting Poch but the number of people who want ETH despite him having not achieved a lot either is pretty amusing
 
Yep. It would be the same if ETH bombed out of Europe. If your opinion is swayed by a single game then it wasn't built on much to begin with.

The real factor here is what this does in terms of Poch's availability and how much weight the people in charge of our club place on that when it comes to the financial costs of appointing the next manager.

Even if ETH goes out to Benfica at least you could say those teams are about the same level. In general, Ajax have outperformed their expectations already by winning their group so impressively. While it would be disappointing for them to go out in the last 16 it’s not the same as PSG going out even though it was to Madrid.
 
I didn't expect him to win the CL but I did expect at minimum a semi final. You have to say he's failed at PSG. Winning the French league doesn't mean shit!
 
Weirdly this result probably makes it more likely we end up with Poch though

A damn shame if true. If rumours are to be believed, Ralf is recommending Ten Hag but naturally the club will ignore a real football man.
 
I didn't expect him to win the CL but I did expect at minimum a semi final. You have to say he's failed at PSG. Winning the French league doesn't mean shit!

And he won't even get a chance to win the French league because he'll be sacked before then!
 
It’s proof he still hasn’t learned how to set up teams away from home against the big sides
He was 25 minutes away from gliding into the knockout stages after completely dominating Real Madrid over both legs until Dollarumma and co decided otherwise and gifted Madrid two free goals.
 
Some people questioned why he's doing bad as PSG are 13 points clear. But this is why, they are this open in Ligue 1 and have scrapped wins against some mediocre opposition. This is the worst PSG side since the takeover (if we ignore the first year or two). They have no control over games, the gap between the attack - midfield - defence is huge. The team either isn't coached or they're not taking Poch seriously enough.

The capitulation is typical PSG of course, but least the other PSG sides played good football. What mess are they trying to play now? What is the style?
 
Sorry but there is no way that you could have watched this game and come up with that conclusion

Fair play to you for sticking around to lick Poch's balls when they're as dry as they're going to get. Don't think we'll see @Amadaeus until August.
 
Wasn’t Tuchel sacked for a fallout with Leonardo and some players?

The fallout was in large part over PSG's complacence with squad building - in particular, Tuchel was pissed they let Thiago Silva leave for no discernable reason whilst purchasing dross like Danilo Pereira (who Tuchel played as a CB to emphasise his point). Once Tuchel had the temerity to question the hierarchy though his days were numbered - personally I'm very glad PSG are run by idiots!

By all accounts Tuchel didn't fall out with any players at PSG - there were reports of dissention amongst Dortmund players leading up to Tuchel's departure from there though.
 
Fair play for you for sticking around to lick Poch's balls when they're as dry as they're going to get. Don't think we'll see @Amadaeus until August.
Lets just make reasonable posts instead of belittling others, shall we?
 
Poch's at the wheel :(
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Some people questioned why he's doing bad as PSG are 13 points clear. But this is why, they are this open in Ligue 1 and have scrapped wins against some mediocre opposition. This is the worst PSG side since the takeover (if we ignore the first year or two). They have no control over games, the gap between the attack - midfield - defence is huge. The team either isn't coached or they're not taking Poch seriously enough.

The capitulation is typical PSG of course, but least the other PSG sides played good football. What mess are they trying to play now? What is the style?
The way they crumbled at the end is nothing new. Often times that's how they start their games in their league until Mbappe bails them out . The difference is Madrid had the quality to keep going
 
Sorry but there is no way that you could have watched this game and come up with that conclusion
I’ve watched him through his top level career. He did the same v Bayern last year only Bayern missed chance after chance after falling foul of a spam through ball to Mbappe and got away with it.
That’s all it was. His tactics sidelined Neymar and Messi so they could try and find Mbappe on the shoulder and when Madrid adjusted, Poch did not. Same away v City this year but they were punished then as well as tonight.
He never could turn the tide of the game away in big stadiums. His track record is absolute proof of that.
 
Lets just make reasonable posts instead of belittling others, shall we?

This thread would be five pages long if not for the handbags in both directions. :(
 
Exactly. He has his issues but this tie is hardly the reason to not hire him
Perhaps not the sole reason, but this tie is one of the reason.

PSG right now has the edge in term of quality, and especially favorite to progress coming into the second leg. Playing well for longer period sounds good, but then bottling in that manner pose a big question over mentality preparation, and situation management. It's CL. The opposition is quality. Give them an inch and they would kick your ass in the end. Nobody care about flimsy moral victory. It's not like RM won by 3 goals. There was enough time and enough margin of error for PSG to regroup and stay in the game. Totally clueless when opposition shows spirit, it's rich to shift the blame onto the players, mentality of the club, where they showed that.Did somebody not mention how PSG did well last season against Barcelona and Bayern despite being the underdog of the performers earlier in this thread? If it's the club, the players, isn't it contradictory now?
 
Fair play to you for sticking around to lick Poch's balls when they're as dry as they're going to get. Don't think we'll see @Amadaeus until August.

Well Pochettino is almost certainly going to be the next United manager so I would suggest you look for a different team for a while
 
Sorry but there is no way that you could have watched this game and come up with that conclusion

That conclusion is spot on. It's ridiculous to keep pushing high with effectively 7 outfield defenders after Benzema's first to make it 2-1 PSG. PSG have the most effective counterattacking player in the world in Mbappe yet Poch wants his whole team pushed high? Benzema's second came from a transition - inexcusable for PSG to give that up when they were ahead in the tie.
 
I can understand people not wanting Poch but the number of people who want ETH despite him having not achieved a lot either is pretty amusing
The only way ETH can achieve more is proving himself at a bigger club.

You expect Ajax, to make CL final? They nearly did but lost out once. CL semi final was still impressive. Else, his Ajax has been doing quite well under him
 
The excuses are worse. Real concedes the equalizer and then they have 15 minutes to pick themselves up, but they don't do that. Poch let Madrid grow back into the game with no reaction. Ancelotti with an inferior squad managed to cause him so many problems in this second half.
 
That conclusion is spot on. It's ridiculous to keep pushing high with effectively 7 outfield defenders after Benzema's first to make it 2-1 PSG. PSG have the most effective counterattacking player in the world in Mbappe yet Poch wants his whole team pushed high? Benzema's second came from a transition - inexcusable for PSG to give that up when they were ahead in the tie.

But they were sitting back before that and couldn’t keep the ball at all. They had a nice 3 minute spell of keeping the ball before Neymar gave the ball away. They could have conceded 3-4 times before that even while being camped in their own half . The players just completely lost their heads for which Poch deserves blame too but I think if you sit back in that scenario you would concede anyway with wave after wave of Real Madrid pressure
 
The fallout was in large part over PSG's complacence with squad building - in particular, Tuchel was pissed they let Thiago Silva leave for no discernable reason whilst purchasing dross like Danilo Pereira (who Tuchel played as a CB to emphasise his point). Once Tuchel had the temerity to question the hierarchy though his days were numbered - personally I'm very glad PSG are run by idiots!

By all accounts Tuchel didn't fall out with any players at PSG - there were reports of dissention amongst Dortmund players leading up to Tuchel's departure from there though.

That's not really it. Tuchel started acting out with the previous DOF who botched the team and put PSG in a tough spot regarding FFP. Leonardo had to pick up the pieces but Tuchel kept the same negative energy with Leonardo, with regular public rants which were eventually reciprocated by Leonardo. Finally Tuchel who wasn't going to extend, mismanaged the Demba Ba situation and then gave an interview in germany where he targetted Leonardo.

The fallout had nothing to do with Thiago Silva or even Danilo Pereira.
 
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