If that was the case, I think we would all understand it(more or less). Also, you'd imagine he'd tell SAF, as SAF is clearly a family man. The fact that SAF doesn't know why he wants out makes me think it's something that Rooney doesn't want to tell him and I doubt saving your marriage is a reason that you wouldn't not want to tell someone.
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I think the doubt, confusion and hurt was genuine, but at the same time he has shaped it to portray United in a favorable light, and put Rooney between a rock and a hard place. He's managed to take the focus and potential blame from United and shift it to Rooney, in a way that can't really be disputed.
I don't think he's left the door open for him at all either. What's more likely is that Fergie has spoken to Wayne, or attempted to persuade him around long ago, but all efforts have reached dead ends. This way he leaves the ball with Rooney, who has to respond somewhere along the lines and even if he doesn't provide his account of events, when he leaves, there will be no doubt that he left us despite Fergie offering a way back.
Rooney is a clown, I hope we sell him as soon as possible.
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Im still hoping this is a professional wrestling like twist, where ferguson and rooney plotted this whole thing together to get all the limelight away from rooneys personal issues / indiscretions and get it all football related.
I do agree with you and when you look at what has come out in the papers from Rooney's "advisers" none of that rings true at all. Something is not at all right here and I don't feel it's anything to do with United or Fergie.
Losing rooney i'm not worried about, losing ronaldo bothered me though.
I can't believe the players have kept this quiet for so long, but then I guess one random summer day I got an sms to let me know Ronaldo was gone, with me thinking, not this off season, what with them already signing Kaka.
Hopefully other players don't take their cues from him, and get ideas. Players like Nani, Vida...
Hopefully other players don't take their cues from him, and get ideas. Players like Nani, Vida...
I agree, he'll get over it. And soon. But the point is Rooney made him like that... and I've never seen him like that before. I don't think anyone has. Our manager is a legend of the sort that only comes around once in a generation and he's been totally betrayed by a player he trusted. Unforgivable.
Absolutely. None of this is Fergie's fault. I reckon the whole feud thing is bollocks. Rooney is just being a complete and utter twat. Simple as that.
Absolutely. The bit in bold is exactly how I feel as well. Where is the loyalty? Where is the paying people back for having trust in you and helping you? Where is the genuine respect for the manager that has always helped you and the fans who support you and pay your ridiculous wages?
Footballers are often pretty much scum when you see them for what they really are.
This is very important. Not just to please the transfer muppet in all of us, but I think as a show of strength as well as improving the team, we need to make some markee signings. Losing Ronaldo, Tevez and Rooney (the holy trinity part II
) is going to make people seriously doubt us. And all our top players are going to be second guessing United's future. We need to set the record straight and show that we're still a club that the best players want to play for.Yeah even if he was on form I would still stick him in the darkest corner of the club I could find ... Why should we contribute anything to his fitness and form now he's leaving ... Clubs aren't gonna judge his fee on what has gone on this season and if what I hear is right we can only get 5 million for him so is give him nothing but a hard time until he leaves. He Doesn't deserve to play for united again.
The only way he should play for united again is if he grovels and apologises to the manager and club which I severly doubt will happen
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Please don't do a Figo and run to City Rooney
Please don't do a Figo and run to City Rooney
feck me... even Phil Thompson is shocked. "Hurts me to say it, but he's at the biggest club in the world".
Well Vidic just signed a new contract and didnt Nani pen one aswell?
EDIT just checked Nani pened a new one till 2014 as did Vidic
said it yesterday. I truly believe he thinks he will be better off out of England. I cant really say if its right or wrong but we will go on without him
Vidic is a man of his word unlike rooney.
I never doubted for 1 min that vidic wouldn't sign a new contract.
I never doubted for 1 min that vidic wouldn't sign a new contract.
Pheew. We're safe for 2 years then
I am of the opinion that United would be the best place for him to be to deal with every single one of these issues. There are very few managers as good as Fergie when it comes to player protection and deflecting the media.
Either there has been a personal issue between Rooney and the Club/SAF or he's looking for big money and we can't meet his demands. Probably a combination of the two.
I guess we'll probably never know but whatever club he moves to and any new developments in the next few days should give us a fair idea.
Most players are under contract when they leave...
I'm not saying they will, I'm just saying, I hope they don't also think United is some kind of sinking ship, and they want to leave for greener pastures too.
I think the players can think for themselves, and I'm sure SAF will have a word with all of them.
This is absolute bollox. We were in the final of the champions league just 2 seasons ago and was in with a shout last year. This is really basic he cant handle the criticism that he has been subject to because of his extra affairs off the pitch. The press in England have killed him and he wants to go somewhere that he can play without that bs all around him.
Beckham delt with all the abuse after the world cup but it appears rooney isnt able to. After watching Higuian today with madrid miss about 4 goals it appears to me that rooney would be a great addition to that squad.
He has given his all until the last few games with united and he can go and do whatever he wants as far as i am concerned. its only football and if he thinks that he can save his marriage by leaving united then so be it.
In Vidics case i highly doubt it, hes 28 now and its likely he'll see his career out with us. Nani is a odd one because hes young enough and has won nearly everything with us, should he continue and develop into a world class player i do think around 26-27 he will be off as well hope im wrong tho.
If Fergie decided that Wayne Rooneys only role at the club in the meantime was taking over from old Bill the toilet cleaner I wouldn't object. You don't attempt to play yourself off as a victim against arguably the biggest name in a footballing juggernauts history and expect to come out of it as the victor.
Wayne Rooney was a Manchester United superstar. He started getting ideas above his station and disrespected the manager who made him and every single fan who has ever sung his name. In the next couple of days he could still salvage this mess for the better, which is even more testimony to the loyalty and professionalism of Fergie, and yet it is more likely that he will end up down the road at the council house. There are literally no more possible ticks on the betrayal list he could make if that is the case and if he ends up at Eastlands he is completely dead to me.
Wayne Rooney was a Manchester United superstar. He started getting ideas above his station and disrespected the manager who made him and every single fan who has ever sung his name. In the next couple of days he could still salvage this mess for the better, which is even more testimony to the loyalty and professionalism of Fergie, and yet it is more likely that he will end up down the road at the council house. There are literally no more possible ticks on the betrayal list he could make if that is the case and if he ends up at Eastlands he is completely dead to me.
Dont worry people its not the end of the world, we can always play JI SUNG PARK up front if we get injuries. Seriously though, what a shock and wont be good losing a top player like Rooney.
I know some laugh at England for not doing great at tournaments and what not but this really is a sign of the times now, City having more England internationals than us, wouldnt have been the case a while back.
IF they get Rooney from us, a player who we've all follwed for so long, it would be a real kick in the teeth.
Lets see how things develop in days to come.
I know some laugh at England for not doing great at tournaments and what not but this really is a sign of the times now, City having more England internationals than us, wouldnt have been the case a while back.
IF they get Rooney from us, a player who we've all follwed for so long, it would be a real kick in the teeth.
Lets see how things develop in days to come.Bye Wayne. Nobody is bigger than this Club.
Yes.
If a player says he doesn't want to play for United, then so be it.
I'd have sympathy for Rooney if he'd been ill-used, but he's been molly-coddled to the extent that he now thinks he's bigger than the club.
Most people, even Alan Green, have questioned Rooney's motives. Although the journalists will be the first ones to write about 'United's demise', almost all of them have supported SAF after his press conference, and I don't think any paper/pundit will blame SAF for what has happened.
I'd put him at the back of the pecking order. Bump Hernandez up to starter, Macheda and Owen as the backups and alternates, and Rooney comes in for the carling cup just to make sure other players dont get injured or tired from less important competitions like that one. Because without Rooney the likes of Macheda may have to play more games than he's ever been used to and the last thing we'd want is him or Hernandez getting burnt out when they've become more important players to us.
If Rooney goes to City, it literally will be a player bigger than a club. That's actually possible for him at City.
Livvie do you think this could possibly be because of the clubs financial state? I can't get over this thought. I hope it isn't a result of our debt, whether it be on his belief that we're the club is well on the decline, or us needing the funds. That's a fear I have. The perceived reasons seems tame in comparison.
This will be proved or disproved by where he chooses to go. If he ends up moving to another English club then it has feck all to do with the press. And to be honest I cant see him going abroad.
I think I know we were in the final, oh yeah I just about remember that. But instead of doing what a big club does and builds where they needed to get back there and win, we regress by not being able to keep/replace players. Our window as a top tier CL contender is closing fast, were not even the top 4 favourites going into this seasons CL. Inter/Barca/Madrid/Chelsea are all better, we've gone from being the best to 5th in the space of 2 years, and now City have money, and Bayerns team only improves, while we can't really invest, I can't see us going up rather staying in or around where we are unless something big happens.
If he can't handle the press, he would of left years ago, it's got the worst it ever has for him this past month, but he wanted to leave prior to that.
To be honest, 'I can't see him doing...' statements don't really mean much do they now? How many people couldn't see him do this? Well, he's gone and done it. As far as I can tell, all bets are off with what he'll do next.
Totally back SAF if he ignores him. Strangely the whole football world bar City are criticizing him not just United fans, Rooney is making a fool of himself
yes, I'd be more disappointed if he took the place of Owen, Hernandez, Macheda etc, players who actually want to play here.
Rooney should remember that both Harry Kewell and Ballack thought United were on a downward spiral, and well, they were proven to be complete feckwits.
Rooney should remember that both Harry Kewell and Ballack thought United were on a downward spiral, and well, they were proven to be complete feckwits.
sad news but no individual is bigger than the club........would love to hear rooneys side of the story as to why he went from wanting to sign for life into wanting out in a matter of months.......
It has feck ALL to do with Rooney whether or not he agrees with SAF and his recruitment policy, what the feck does a little scouse chav know? compared to the greatest manager in English football?
Yup. Anywhere but City, Wayne, anywhere but City.