MERGED: Rooney signs new contract!

In his words, if it's just about 'winning trophies' and he feels City are better equipped to offer him that, he could always agree to join them on the same money he's on now.
 
On one side of us there is the Owners......hated by football fans because they represent 50% of all that is wrong with Football.
On the other side is Agents......hated by football fans because they represent the other 50% of all that is wrong with Football.

In the middle theres something that endures beyond these twin evils.
In the middle are the only true loyal things about football......the fans..the pride....the passion....the tradition .....the dignity......the history...........goes beyond any player, any chief executive, any agent, any manager, any pundit, any journalist.
Yesterday our manager spoke out for how we want it to be.
We have no choice.
We must stand totally 100% with him.
 
SAF revealing that Gill has met with the owners and he's meeting with Gill himself in the morning, after having already said the matter will be put to bed tomorrow? If you don't think that's intriguing then you can't carry much interest in the topic to be frank.

Sounds a bit meh to me.
 
Well the obvious example would be Inter winning the Champions League by signing Eto'o, Sneijder, Milito, Lucio and Pandev.

But in 09 (when these players were bought) Inter were building a team to do just that...We on the other hand had a team who had just won the league and gotten to the CL final, minus one important player (Tevez being replaced by Berba)..We weren't building. So who do we chuck out to accomodate all these signings?

This is what the FM crowd forget about...This is the dreamworld transfer muppets live in.

"Look, all these players. We should buy them."

"And play them where?"

"Erm, well we'll get rid of him and him, I don't like either of them, and him...Basically I can make this great Dream Team in my head"

It's bollocks. It's arm chair management. Cab driver world to rights stuff. There was no need to buy a glut of "value" players then...Only to replace Ronaldo. Which we did in position if not stature.

This season again, we probably should have bought someone if we wanted to win the league this year but it's just an incredibly bollocks mentality to start blabbing on about how shit we are now when only less than 2 years ago most of this team won the League...It's only really since the Chelsea's and City's of this world that people have actually started to "expect" big name signings all the time as a requirement of "ambition"...It's nothing to do with ambition, it's to do with wanting short cuts.

If this kind of mentality was prevalent in our management we'd have a new starting 11 every fecking year....Well it's worked really well for Madrid of late hasn't it?

And Im fickle by stating that his logic is correct even tjough it may not be the real reason? You knob.

His logic isn't correct because your logic relies on the basic assumption that what ambitious clubs do, what the sole purpose and requirement of them, is buying loads of World Class players all over the fecking shop. Which is nonsense, and the realm of children who've played too many video games. The only clubs in the world who do this, or have ever done this are the sugar daddy rich and Madrid. We've never been either, so why is it right now?

The only time in our history when we did was just after the Treble when we got Seba and Ruud. We didn't do too well with them, and so reverted to buying young players and training them up...Which worked brilliantly. So why would we revert to buying World Class players for huge sums again? And why do you, or Rooney feel this is what you, or he deserves. Unless you've played too many video games, or been influenced by the emergence of the City's of this world.
 
SAF: ..."an opportunity. We will invest when the time was right. There's no value. We identified one player in the summer." Villa?

and then

SAF: "We get loads of calls/emails every week about players who want to play for Manchester United. Sometimes you see a cow in a different field and you think that cow might better than the one you have but doesn't always work out that way." We lost title by one point."

the dreaded no value quote :(
 
Sounds like they're just getting the proper green light on what is after all a major personnel decision.

There's no going back now.
 
Who is this player we identified? Is he yet talking about Villa or is it someone else we've identified and now might sign quicker than expected because of the Rooney situation?
 
Something Wayne might like to think about.

City:
united-34-banner_1568220c.jpg


United:
Code:
Domestic
League

    * First Division[159] (until 1992) and Premier League:[159] 18
          o 1907–08, 1910–11, 1951–52, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1964–65, 1966–67, 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
    * Second Division:[159] 2
          o 1935–36, 1974–75

Cups

    * FA Cup: 11
          o 1908–09, 1947–48, 1962–63, 1976–77, 1982–83, 1984–85, 1989–90, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1998–99, 2003–04
    * League Cup: 4
          o 1991–92, 2005–06, 2008–09, 2009–10
    * FA Charity/Community Shield: 18 (14 outright, 4 shared)
          o 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010 (* shared)

European

    * European Cup/UEFA Champions League: 3
          o 1967–68, 1998–99, 2007–08
    * UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1
          o 1990–91
    * UEFA Super Cup: 1
          o 1991

Worldwide

    * Intercontinental Cup: 1
          o 1999
    * FIFA Club World Cup: 1
          o 2008

Doubles and Trebles

    * Doubles:
          o League and FA Cup: 3
                + 1993–94, 1995–96, 1998–99 (as part of the Treble)
          o League and League Cup: 1
                + 2008–09
          o European Double (League and European Cup): 2
                + 1998–99 (as part of the Treble), 2007–08
    * "The Treble" (League, FA Cup and European Cup): 1
          o 1998–99
 
Fergie talking about cows, Benitez talking about white liquid - what the feck is going on?
 
On one side of us there is the Owners......hated by football fans because they represent 50% of all that is wrong with Football.
On the other side is Agents......hated by football fans because they represent the other 50% of all that is wrong with Football.

In the middle theres something that endures beyond these twin evils.
In the middle are the only true loyal things about football......the fans..the pride....the passion....the tradition .....the dignity......the history...........goes beyond any player, any chief executive, any agent, any manager, any pundit, any journalist.
Yesterday our manager spoke out for how we want it to be.
We have no choice.
We must stand totally 100% with him.

Agree, and good post.
 
Why won't Fergie just say that No we're not trying to keep him anymore when Shreeves asked if United are trying to keep him at the club?
 
Why won't Fergie just say that No we're not trying to keep him anymore when Shreeves asked if United are trying to keep him at the club?

Because I think he really does want to keep him. It wont happen, but no harm in saying, "Door's open..."
 
SAF response to Rooney statement. :lol:



Yes Shrek over 30 trophies from the greatest Manager in the modern era is not enough for your ambition.

Take your fat scouser arse out of this great club and let the rest of the squad & management get on with the task of trying to secure further success for this historic club.
 
SAF response to Rooney statement. :lol:



Yes Shrek over 30 trophies from the greatest Manager in the modern era is not enough for your ambition.

Take your fat scouser arse out of this great club and let the rest of the squad & management get on with the task of trying to secure further success for this historic club.
 
Go watch Knight and Day, there's a bit of action in it.

That's not interested you in the bit? You must be hard to please

Really? Bloody hell what does it take to grab your interest?

Dunno what you lot are expecting. I would be surprised if anything interesting or unexpected is said tomorrow by SAF or Gill. You do realise meetings happen all the time right? The problem is likely to be solved behind closed doors. If I were you lot I wouldnt hold my breath.
 
SAF response to Rooney statement. :lol:



Yes Shrek over 30 trophies from the greatest Manager in the modern era is not enough for your ambition.

Take your fat scouser arse out of this great club and let the rest of the squad & management get on with the task of trying to secure further success for this historic club.
 
Something Wayne might like to think about.

City:
united-34-banner_1568220c.jpg


United:
Code:
Domestic
League

    * First Division[159] (until 1992) and Premier League:[159] 18
          o 1907–08, 1910–11, 1951–52, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1964–65, 1966–67, 1992–93, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1996–97, 1998–99, 1999–2000, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
    * Second Division:[159] 2
          o 1935–36, 1974–75

Cups

    * FA Cup: 11
          o 1908–09, 1947–48, 1962–63, 1976–77, 1982–83, 1984–85, 1989–90, 1993–94, 1995–96, 1998–99, 2003–04
    * League Cup: 4
          o 1991–92, 2005–06, 2008–09, 2009–10
    * FA Charity/Community Shield: 18 (14 outright, 4 shared)
          o 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010 (* shared)

European

    * European Cup/UEFA Champions League: 3
          o 1967–68, 1998–99, 2007–08
    * UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1
          o 1990–91
    * UEFA Super Cup: 1
          o 1991

Worldwide

    * Intercontinental Cup: 1
          o 1999
    * FIFA Club World Cup: 1
          o 2008

Doubles and Trebles

    * Doubles:
          o League and FA Cup: 3
                + 1993–94, 1995–96, 1998–99 (as part of the Treble)
          o League and League Cup: 1
                + 2008–09
          o European Double (League and European Cup): 2
                + 1998–99 (as part of the Treble), 2007–08
    * "The Treble" (League, FA Cup and European Cup): 1
          o 1998–99


Yeah.....but......yeah....but city can spend £20m on Roque Santa Cruz and we can't
 
Dunno what you lot are expecting. I would be surprised if anything interesting or unexpected is said tomorrow by SAF or Gill. You do realise meetings happen all the time right? The problem is likely to be solved behind closed doors. If I were you lot I wouldnt hold my breath.

Well, one way or another it will be an end to this, so that's quite interesting I think, considering all we are doing is waiting for exactly that.
 
Why won't Fergie just say that No we're not trying to keep him anymore when Shreeves asked if United are trying to keep him at the club?

Because his value then goes down and down and down....

At the moment we're still fighting to keep him and clubs will have to make good offers for him.
 
Because I think he really does want to keep him. It wont happen, but no harm in saying, "Door's open..."

It also takes the pressure away from United. If Fergie says "no, there's no coming back from this" everyone would say United was glad to jump on the bandwagon because we need the transfer fee. Fergie managed the situation IMHO like a real professional. Without insulting anybody, Fergie painted Rooney as the bad boy - and rightly so - and showed that it wasn't and isn't United's fault that he doesn't sign a new contract. Nobody will be able to blame us for his departure.