I dont know, Drogbas dives were much more entertaining, but you're right Young is easily as good as Drogba at simulation.
Moyes So Far!
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I dont know, Drogbas dives were much more entertaining, but you're right Young is easily as good as Drogba at simulation.
I think Moyes should publicly punch Young's lights out
so you're excusing a cheating cnut on the basis that you are a cheating cnut too?
Moyes was asked what he thought of Young's dive and responded accordingly. It was the right thing to do, didn't Ferguson do something similar before?
Moyes will never win some of you over.
Moyes will never win some of you over.
Glad Moyes called Young on his ballerina antics. He's had it a long time coming.
The life of David Moyes, football manager:
Moyes criticises Young for Diving
Moyes refuses to criticise Young for Diving
Moyes criticises Young for Diving
Moyes refuses to criticise Young for Diving
I remember Fergie saying something similar about Young's diving.
edit: from April last year
edit: from April last year
It's not cheating, the leg is out.
priceless. The leg is out because he was trying to tackle, Young kicked the ball away than basically kicked his leg into the Palace player with all intentions to see.How have we got to the stage whereby people are defending that? With all the stab wounds and bullets flying around during the old days, I suspect you would've had some sort of pitch invasion had the ref called that back then.
Seriously though, it's a bad dive.
With all the stab wounds and bullets flying around during the old days, I suspect you would've had some sort of pitch invasion had the ref called that back then.Seriously though, it's a bad dive.
If Moyes turns out to be shit, is it all Fergie's fault for giving him the job?
Although early to judge him, i quite like the fact he likes to play his best eleven rather than make wholesale changes.
Under Fergie, we probably would've seen Rio rested and Evans or even Carrick played in that position last Saturday. Before people start jumping on me this is by no means a go at Fergie but something i have noticed under Moyes.
Secondly, the other noticeable thing is that we seem more defensive and solid as a unit but it may simply be down to the recent opposition.
Under Fergie, we probably would've seen Rio rested and Evans or even Carrick played in that position last Saturday. Before people start jumping on me this is by no means a go at Fergie but something i have noticed under Moyes.
Secondly, the other noticeable thing is that we seem more defensive and solid as a unit but it may simply be down to the recent opposition.
Why would Fergie play his best midfielder in central defence if he has 4 fit central defenders to choose from?
So many tests and new challenges ahead of him, it's simply impossible to give an accurate opinion. It's gonna be extremely interesting how he'll manage in the winter window and the crucial Christmas - New Year fixtures that will surely matter in this race.
What I can say that I really like his character, also when he was in Everton as he pretty much always acts carefully and tries avoid bigger media spotlight by being honest and focusing on what he already have. He protects his players (especially youngsters) and when he's saying something once, usually it stays that way to the end.
Players that won't work their asses off under him may expect a rude awakening. If club decided to throw full money on Herrera, squad could look quite different, now.
What I can say that I really like his character, also when he was in Everton as he pretty much always acts carefully and tries avoid bigger media spotlight by being honest and focusing on what he already have. He protects his players (especially youngsters) and when he's saying something once, usually it stays that way to the end.
Players that won't work their asses off under him may expect a rude awakening. If club decided to throw full money on Herrera, squad could look quite different, now.
Exactly.
We are more defensively solid but looking pretty weak in attack and out of ideas. No great movement nor pace, rather static and predictable. Not that that's much change from last season. I agree that we need to introduce an element of consistency which we didn't get over the last few seasons in terms of team selection (much forced on us by injuries) but Moyes also needs to keep much of the squad fit and ready. I thought the Palace game was a great opportunity to give some players a game, and he did, with Ando and Fabio. But I worry about an over-reliance on Carrick and Van Persie, we need them fit through-out the whole season
and we need to start to make sense in the attacking third
I love this. I also love the fact that Moyes feels comfortable enough not to feel threatened or burdened by the greatness around him, in people like SAF and Sir Bobby, but instead is confident enough to see their presence as an advantage to him, unparallelled knowledge that is there for him to tap into when he needs to rather than the spectre looming large over him like the media seemed to want it to be.
His ties annoy the shite outta me, always odd colours. Never red.
It was only a matter of time before this thread took a turn down pink alley.
'He is really going to struggle in the champions league..'
How about, feck off.
How about, feck off.
As we all know, Moyes will struggle going forward but keep it tight at the back!
fecking brilliant. I love him.
Wear a red tie, you cnut.
Wear a red tie, you cnut.
Four goals, could be even six. Good job, David.
Great use of Kagawa and Fellaini today and looks like Tony is back.
Great use of Kagawa and Fellaini today and looks like Tony is back.
He has done great so far. If we include the Wigan game, then we have scored 12 goals in 6 games, and only conceded 4. We've won 4 games, drawn once, and lost once. And both the times we didn't win, we were clearly the better team, with our opponents barely creating anything.
The games haven't been easy either! A "final" against a Wigan team that has nothing to lose and everything to win, Swansea away, Chelsea, Liverpool away, Palace(meh) and now the third best team in Germany.
I imagine things are gonna get even better once Kagawa and Fellaini have settled and Rafael returns. We look unstoppable defensively and in midfield, bar a few defensive blunders(none of which Moyes are to blame for).
The games haven't been easy either! A "final" against a Wigan team that has nothing to lose and everything to win, Swansea away, Chelsea, Liverpool away, Palace(meh) and now the third best team in Germany.
I imagine things are gonna get even better once Kagawa and Fellaini have settled and Rafael returns. We look unstoppable defensively and in midfield, bar a few defensive blunders(none of which Moyes are to blame for).
The defence let him down a bit tonight but overall I thought the team selection and the tactics were fully spot on.
Good use of Smalling because of Kiessling's size. Made 1 or 2 great headed clearances. I remember last season when Rickie Lambert pulled out wide on to Rafael and it caused us major problems.
We have some serious aerial threat in our team. All Rooney needs to do is clear the first man with his corners
We have some serious aerial threat in our team. All Rooney needs to do is clear the first man with his corners
That's another monkey off his back. A first victory in a new competition is like a goal scoring debut for a striker, it will settle him down a treat.
The unlucky loss against 'pool is the only negative so far. He's going to be a great manager here.
The unlucky loss against 'pool is the only negative so far. He's going to be a great manager here.
He seems to instill some confidence and skills in our players. I have waited a long time to see Rooney or Valencia taking on players like they did. I also like the high pressing game. Only thing that needs to be improved is our movement and play in our final third but that will come
Agreed. Just wish he'd change that fecking suit!
We pressed them so well when they were in their own half, it
was great to see. Rooney's chance (and miss) being the prime example of the benefits of pressing high.
was great to see. Rooney's chance (and miss) being the prime example of the benefits of pressing high.
Interesting little tidbit in a Daniel Taylor article I've just read:
They tell a story at Manchester United about David Moyes's negotiations to become Manchester United's new manager and the fact that there were a couple of people behind the scenes who were slightly taken aback when they heard he had requested the availability of a private jet as part of his contract.
At the time, the club's directors were not completely au fait with the way Moyes liked to work and the frequency with which he planned to fly off to see potential transfer targets or study potential opponents. Sir Alex Ferguson was hardly short of a few air miles himself but one of the more intriguing differences since the change of manager is that, if anything, they reckon Moyes gets about even more.
It is quite a tribute, bearing in mind Ferguson's reputation as a 24-7 workaholic, as Moyes prepares to take United back into the Champions League for the first time since Real Madrid left the previous manager too distraught even to face the cameras.
They tell a story at Manchester United about David Moyes's negotiations to become Manchester United's new manager and the fact that there were a couple of people behind the scenes who were slightly taken aback when they heard he had requested the availability of a private jet as part of his contract.
At the time, the club's directors were not completely au fait with the way Moyes liked to work and the frequency with which he planned to fly off to see potential transfer targets or study potential opponents. Sir Alex Ferguson was hardly short of a few air miles himself but one of the more intriguing differences since the change of manager is that, if anything, they reckon Moyes gets about even more.
It is quite a tribute, bearing in mind Ferguson's reputation as a 24-7 workaholic, as Moyes prepares to take United back into the Champions League for the first time since Real Madrid left the previous manager too distraught even to face the cameras.
I think he's been great so far. I can't wait until it all settles down and everyone gets used to the idea of him as manager. It was funny what he said in his interview after the game about being told every week that it's his first something or other as United manager.
A win on Sunday would represent a very pleasing end to our difficult start and would go a long way to quashing this 'sluggish start' talk that ITV were trying to pedal today. Even at 3-1 tonight we were reminded that two of our goals were gifted to us and the other was offside.
A win on Sunday would represent a very pleasing end to our difficult start and would go a long way to quashing this 'sluggish start' talk that ITV were trying to pedal today. Even at 3-1 tonight we were reminded that two of our goals were gifted to us and the other was offside.
Good to see he got a win straight up in the champions league. If we can beat City on the weekend, considering who we have played so far he will have done really well.
Very pleased so far. That game last night showed the value of a solid midfield. Once the forward players realised they didn't have to do as much defending, they really started to play with freedom.
I can understand Moyes being a little cautious in his set up, and there is nothing wrong with that in my view. We are far less open than we were under SAF, and we still have plenty of creativity up front despite that. Already this season we have been far more effective at breaking up the opponents play, and as we get used to this more solid set up, i believe we can still pose a huge threat with our attacking options.
I have felt for a while that we needed someone to share the defensive duites with Carrick, and now we have that i believe we are far better equipped to be more competitive in the big games. We still have plenty of scope for improvement, and i understand that many still want that wc playmaker, but for me Fellaini or someone like him was a must, and now we have that solid base i think some people may be pleasantly surprised at how much creativity we already have.
We just needed a more progressive and competitive system which would allow us to free up our attackers, without leaving ourselves open defensively. I felt we showed signs of striking that balance last night agianst a decent Leverkusen team.
I can understand Moyes being a little cautious in his set up, and there is nothing wrong with that in my view. We are far less open than we were under SAF, and we still have plenty of creativity up front despite that. Already this season we have been far more effective at breaking up the opponents play, and as we get used to this more solid set up, i believe we can still pose a huge threat with our attacking options.
I have felt for a while that we needed someone to share the defensive duites with Carrick, and now we have that i believe we are far better equipped to be more competitive in the big games. We still have plenty of scope for improvement, and i understand that many still want that wc playmaker, but for me Fellaini or someone like him was a must, and now we have that solid base i think some people may be pleasantly surprised at how much creativity we already have.
We just needed a more progressive and competitive system which would allow us to free up our attackers, without leaving ourselves open defensively. I felt we showed signs of striking that balance last night agianst a decent Leverkusen team.
Hadn't seen this before, I have to say I like that. You have to be pretty confident about your own abilities and talents to clearly admit you're taking advice from two greats like that. I mean, in his position, other managers would probably try to establish themselves differently, but claiming "they're being their own man" and "don't need to look back" or whatever, the fact he is candid about listening to advice from Sir Alex and Sir Bobby, about specific topics like squad management, is a clear indication that he doesn't feel he's 'made' it at Utd yet, that he still has plenty to learn but isn't daunted by that aspect.
In any case, I've been very convinced by what we've seen since the beginning of the season. Perfect appointment for us.
David Moyes is a good manager, and has continued to prove as much thus far.
The next step is to become a great.
The next step is to become a great.
A couple of things I've been pleased with so far:
1) The consistency in selection at the back - I felt that Fergie rotated a bit too much at times which made it difficult to build momentum as a group. Moyes has kept it relatively stable thus far.
2) The line-up last night was encouraging. Playing Kagawa, Rooney, RvP and Valencia in the same team was quite offensive for his first game in the CL. Fellaini might have made this possible with his added midfield presence, but then it was Moyes who bought him the first place, so I guess this counts as two points...
1) The consistency in selection at the back - I felt that Fergie rotated a bit too much at times which made it difficult to build momentum as a group. Moyes has kept it relatively stable thus far.
2) The line-up last night was encouraging. Playing Kagawa, Rooney, RvP and Valencia in the same team was quite offensive for his first game in the CL. Fellaini might have made this possible with his added midfield presence, but then it was Moyes who bought him the first place, so I guess this counts as two points...
Moyes plays Rooney and Fellaini where their favourite positions are and it slowly starts to pay off. From what I hear Carrick also loves this cooperation in midfield as he has terrorizing and clever at the same time player to help him control the game.
If he'll decide to add Ross Barkley to this mix in a few years or sooner, this midfield will have even more sharpness. Everton has some wonderful attitude in their players when it comes to resisting the opposition through aggressive football.
I would risk and say, this is exactly what Manchester United been missing. That's why Everton spanked Chelsea with somebody like Barkley pressing on them and making them clear the ball and do more mistakes than producing order on the pitch.
New boss knows what our nightmares are and it was back when he was in previous club. He's gonna use his over 10 years of experience now and his most trusted player which is logical thing to do.
If he'll decide to add Ross Barkley to this mix in a few years or sooner, this midfield will have even more sharpness. Everton has some wonderful attitude in their players when it comes to resisting the opposition through aggressive football.
I would risk and say, this is exactly what Manchester United been missing. That's why Everton spanked Chelsea with somebody like Barkley pressing on them and making them clear the ball and do more mistakes than producing order on the pitch.
New boss knows what our nightmares are and it was back when he was in previous club. He's gonna use his over 10 years of experience now and his most trusted player which is logical thing to do.
Its amazing what two (should) wins can do
I'm an old git, so I remember Sexton to Atkinson, and Atkinson to Fergie. It takes awhile for a manager to settle in and put his stamp on things. Moyes is under more pressure than anyone previously because he has start running things his way, without allowing standards to drop. Its a very unusual position to inherit a winning team. Personally I havent set any expectations of his first season, I just hope we play some good football and do okay. Anything else, especially silverware, a major bonus
imo then, Moyes is doing superbly so far. He seems to have the players backing, and is working hard.
Loved the comment last night that only 3 (full time) United managers have been in charge of European Cup matches, and they were all born within a couple of miles of each other!
I'm an old git, so I remember Sexton to Atkinson, and Atkinson to Fergie. It takes awhile for a manager to settle in and put his stamp on things. Moyes is under more pressure than anyone previously because he has start running things his way, without allowing standards to drop. Its a very unusual position to inherit a winning team. Personally I havent set any expectations of his first season, I just hope we play some good football and do okay. Anything else, especially silverware, a major bonus
imo then, Moyes is doing superbly so far. He seems to have the players backing, and is working hard.
Loved the comment last night that only 3 (full time) United managers have been in charge of European Cup matches, and they were all born within a couple of miles of each other!
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