The thing I've been noticing is that the opposition are begining to defend against him in threes, whic we've not seen since Ronaldo. Some of his play and goals this year have been up their with anything Messi or Ronaldo do. Yet all the commentators do is go on about hic consistency, ye the same commentators start to wank them selves silly for every pass by Messi.
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We did that last season and it went a bit pear shaped for a while. He did have some good performances on the left as well, but he wasnt as good as his run on the right against Hull, Arsenal and City
not a word about it in the media either, without them justifying it all by suggesting it was all quite understandable because Nani had the nerve to juggle the ball and enjoy himself a bit. If they saw somebody doing it in a Brazil shirt we'd getting the hushed tones and appreciative sighs.
A hugely enjoyable afternoon though
you mean Ronaldo the one-trick-pony?
I suppose you fairies will never for give Nani for hurting your feelings when you were geting thrashed again and he was "showboating"
weren't too worried that day about "robust tackling" as your players queued up to cut him in half under the approving watch of the ref
Can you read ?
I mean the Nani that a year ago everybody thought was shite but now he's a 'god'
Whats the other game got to do with this?
yep, well spoted
That it was.
That match is also memorable to me because I watched it in really unusual (but pleasant) circumstances. Watched it while polishing off an excellent bottle of red wine. Lying in an over-sized bath. In a boutique hotel. In Brighton.
Gayest match-day experience ever?
It was the day before my 18th birthday but because of the time difference and it being an evening KO fell on my 18th birthday.
I was mostly pissed at the time.
That's right almost as despicable as you lot trying to kick the shit out of us for 6 years from 1999 - 2006 - approx 20 consecutive games where Ferguson admitted it was practically a policy as you weren't gonna get near us playing football - Reyes anybody!
No doubt you'll all consign that to the confines of 'selective' history that should never be allowed to raise its head
....but back to the main issue Nani - good player, potentially brilliant but a diving cheating scumbag
key performance indicators
Never happened though, a couple of tackles from Neville were probably too hard on Reyes but then again anything would have been, we never went out there with our only aim to knock you down at every opportunity. And it actually worked most of the time unlike when you employed 'the same tactics' and lost 4-0 with us not even breaking a sweat.
That's right almost as despicable as you lot trying to kick the shit out of us for 6 years from 1999 - 2006 - approx 20 consecutive games where Ferguson admitted it was practically a policy as you weren't gonna get near us playing football - Reyes anybody!
No doubt you'll all consign that to the confines of 'selective' history that should never be allowed to raise its head
....but back to the main issue Nani - good player, potentially brilliant but a diving cheating scumbag
not another "Ferguson admitted to me in confidence but nobody else recalls it"
time's up now matey - here comes the yellow van
That's right almost as despicable as you lot trying to kick the shit out of us for 6 years from 1999 - 2006 - approx 20 consecutive games where Ferguson admitted it was practically a policy as you weren't gonna get near us playing football - Reyes anybody!
No doubt you'll all consign that to the confines of 'selective' history that should never be allowed to raise its head
I don't think anyone would deny Fergie set his team out to intimidate Arsenal, physically, at times. Worked a treat too.
The key difference here is that Fergie doesn't watch his players try to kick the shit out of flair players then spend the next few years crying like a bitch about violent thugs not allowing his side play football.
Everyone hates him, only a good thing for United players.
I do wish he's cut out the theatrics though - the signs are that like Ronaldo, he isn't even getting obvious fouls on him. To a degree I actually applaud refs for this approach - if only they'd apply it to Gerrard, Torres, Kuyt and the french team.
Yeah, refs do seem to be over-compensating because of the reputation Nani's earned for himself. Like I said in the "Nani Goal" thread, the single worst decision Clattenburg made on the night was not giving the penalty which would have avoided Gomes making a tit of himself.
oh I see, you actually agree with me, after all that hot air and bollocks
I dont think anybody disagrees that he is a drama queen. But even drama queens do not deserve to get hacked down.
yeah but we do get more than our fair share of penalties as it is don't we?
oh I see, you actually agree with me, after all that hot air and bollocks
he dives - I agree with that like 99% of United fans would - the rest, I think you should discuss with your therapist.
I was being a bit facetious mate - can't be arsed meself but I'd love to see stats of pens gained and conceded by the "top four" particularly over the past 10 years or so
I think we'd find another myth exposed about who gets the most/least
Without any doubt our most important attacking player right now. The lad really does have it all. Flair, creativity, fantastic shooting and finishing, dribbling, and now that he's finally harnessed it all and grown into a player that actually knows what he's doing, he's showing how fantastic he really is.
I like how he's getting a bit of a 'free role' now, as we saw in the Spurs match. Almost in the way SAF used to give Ronaldo a free role, and that's saying something about how important SAF feels Nani is now. My only concern is that when Rooney and Valencia come back, if he might be shifted back to the left and limited again.
I like how he's getting a bit of a 'free role' now, as we saw in the Spurs match. Almost in the way SAF used to give Ronaldo a free role, and that's saying something about how important SAF feels Nani is now. My only concern is that when Rooney and Valencia come back, if he might be shifted back to the left and limited again.
I too am worried about how we'll manage if Nani were to receive an injury, but I'm not sure the effect would be as devastating as you imagine. With Obertan looking likely to make his breakthrough (I think he's been fantastic these last couple of weeks) this season and Park appearing to have found a return to form I think the pressure's off the wings now a little. Obertan will have to step up in case of an injury to Nani, but if you ask me he looks ready for it; it's often during hard times that emerging players show their real United quality. Bebe I'm less convinced by at the moment, but only because his game is still such a mystery; he certainly so far seems more Valencia than Nani, but is he Valencia quality? Until we've seen more of him we can but hope, but he'll get his chances too soon enough; I'm almost tempted to believe that he might be Nani's immediate replacement on the right in case of injury, he seems more natural on the right whereas Obertan seems to favour playing from the left, so who knows? Either way, I believe that the recent emergence and good form of our younger wingers has relieved some of the pressure placed on the position by the injury to Valencia, and though I'd hate to see Nani injured now, I think we'd cope ok.
Dunno about Obertan but the return of Cleverley will give us another much-needed option out wide if we can muddle through until January.
is Cleverley deff coming back in Jan or is that just something assumed on the strength of a journo guessing?
Nothing definite.
spose he still has to do his stuff tbf
I've never seen much of Cleverly, yet to see him play for Wigan; would you place him higher in the pecking order than Obertan then?
I think Obertan's gonna make it at United, I reckon he's got all the right attributes that SAF looks for in a winger, so if Cleverly's better then the future really is bright.
Myself and many others on here said for a long time that he needs to be played primarily on the right, and we were always shouted down.
It's great to see him finally arriving as the real deal in a Utd shirt.
And I do wonder what Fergie'll do when Valencia's fit again...it'll be interesting, particularly if this run of form continues, or even increases (which I think it could).
It's great to see him finally arriving as the real deal in a Utd shirt.
And I do wonder what Fergie'll do when Valencia's fit again...it'll be interesting, particularly if this run of form continues, or even increases (which I think it could).
Surprised to see Wenger praising a United player, very rare.
When Valencia is fit, Nani will be back on the left again (although I do agree with you that he's best on the right wing).
Not necessarily. Nani is our best attacker when he's on the right, is it really worth shunting him to the left when Valencia comes back? Let's not forget that when Nani did start hitting great form on the right last year, Valencia was dropped for 3 or 4 games.
Just found these on another forum, In his last 31 games he has exactly 23 assists and 10 goals:
Assists
1. Rooney vs Hull
2. Rooney vs Arsenal
3. Vanden Borre own goal vs Pompey
4. Giggs vs Villa
5. Rooney vs Milan
6. Rooney vs Fulham
7. Berbatov vs Bolton
8. Gibson vs Bolton
9. Rooney vs Bayern
10. Macheda vs Chelsea
11. won the second pen for Giggsy vs Spurs
12. Giggs vs Stoke
13. Berbatov vs Chelsea
14. Hangeland own goal vs Fulham
15. Berbatov vs West Ham
16. Fletch vs Everton
17. Vidic vs Everton
18. Berbatov vs Liverpool
19. Bolton cross for Owen
20. Run and cross for Hernandez vs Valencia
21. Free kick leading to Hernandez goal vs WBA
22. Corner for Hernandez 1st goal vs Stoke (bit generous this one)
23. Cross for Vidic vs Spurs
Goals
1. Arsenal
2. Bayern heel flick
3. Bayern blaster
4. Spurs chip
5. Sunderland finish
6. West Ham rocket
7. Bolton solo effort.
8. WBA
9. Bursaspor
10. Spurs
33 goals/assists in 31 matches, outside of Ronaldo and Messi numbers is there a more productive player in europe of his style? when you think of the worldwide praise the likes of Malouda and more recently Bale have received over recent times and yet id say they especially Bale wouldn't get close to these sorts of numbers and its Nani who's still branded inconsistent.
Outside of the 'big 2' i don't see a better winger/forward in europe right now, there certainly isn't a more productive one, and when you add his international figures for the calender year im still amazed he didn't even get short listed for the world player of the year awards.
Assists
1. Rooney vs Hull
2. Rooney vs Arsenal
3. Vanden Borre own goal vs Pompey
4. Giggs vs Villa
5. Rooney vs Milan
6. Rooney vs Fulham
7. Berbatov vs Bolton
8. Gibson vs Bolton
9. Rooney vs Bayern
10. Macheda vs Chelsea
11. won the second pen for Giggsy vs Spurs
12. Giggs vs Stoke
13. Berbatov vs Chelsea
14. Hangeland own goal vs Fulham
15. Berbatov vs West Ham
16. Fletch vs Everton
17. Vidic vs Everton
18. Berbatov vs Liverpool
19. Bolton cross for Owen
20. Run and cross for Hernandez vs Valencia
21. Free kick leading to Hernandez goal vs WBA
22. Corner for Hernandez 1st goal vs Stoke (bit generous this one)
23. Cross for Vidic vs Spurs
Goals
1. Arsenal
2. Bayern heel flick
3. Bayern blaster
4. Spurs chip
5. Sunderland finish
6. West Ham rocket
7. Bolton solo effort.
8. WBA
9. Bursaspor
10. Spurs
33 goals/assists in 31 matches, outside of Ronaldo and Messi numbers is there a more productive player in europe of his style? when you think of the worldwide praise the likes of Malouda and more recently Bale have received over recent times and yet id say they especially Bale wouldn't get close to these sorts of numbers and its Nani who's still branded inconsistent.
Outside of the 'big 2' i don't see a better winger/forward in europe right now, there certainly isn't a more productive one, and when you add his international figures for the calender year im still amazed he didn't even get short listed for the world player of the year awards.
You mean the game where Cashley came out before the match and said he was going to stop Ronaldo by kicking him every time he got the ball? The match where there were more fouls committed against Ronaldo than Reyes?
That's right almost as despicable as you lot trying to kick the shit out of us for 6 years from 1999 - 2006 - approx 20 consecutive games where Ferguson admitted it was practically a policy as you weren't gonna get near us playing football - Reyes anybody!
No doubt you'll all consign that to the confines of 'selective' history that should never be allowed to raise its head
....but back to the main issue Nani - good player, potentially brilliant but a diving cheating scumbag
Ahhh i remember us kicking the shit out of reyes, and i remember you guys kicking the shit out of ronaldo, not to mention the incidents involving keown and ruud, to be fair though it make the matches much more fun because of the emotions.
also Jopub i do agree with you on one thing.. . Nani divers a lot, it pisses me off and im a united fan
Someone should pass the above post on to John Collins who was just asked "How important is Nani to United" and replied (as a stat rolled along the bottom of the screen saying 10 games, 8 assists, 4 goals):
"He's a strange player, he has all the tools but it's when the ball leaves his foot he doesn't make the right decision, the final ball is a problem with him".
Clown!!
Hope that was a cautious sub rather than a proper injury, the last thing we need is to lose the most productive player we have ffs.