Nani

I agree. There are a lot of times that he goes down and stays down way too long when there has been minimal contact.
As far as the derby goes, I think he did get caught by barry (or was it milner). If you see the replay closely, you will notice that barry (or milner) got the ball but on the follow through caught Nani right on the angle with his studs.

It was Barry.

Arsehole commentator kept saying Nani shouldn't be staying down. When the replay showed the contact, he actually praised Barry for the contact because he got the ball and catching Nani was deemed "bonus" .
 
It was Barry.

Arsehole commentator kept saying Nani shouldn't be staying down. When the replay showed the contact, he actually praised Barry for the contact because he got the ball and catching Nani was deemed "bonus" .

I know... that commentator was one of the most biased ones that i have heard in a very long time.
I remember at the start of the match he even said something on the lines of how United fans arent not locals and only the City ones are.
 
Rewind the replay and watch Barry catch Nani's ankle all over again, I'd definitely be hurt if someone goes for my legs like that.

I'd stay down as that was not minimal contact for me, I'd reckon it bloody hurt and he did well to come back into the game for me.

At times he lost the ball too easily though, but anyhow, citeh played with 3 defensive MF's so he was bound to be doulbe teamed and at times were trippled so he actually did quite a good job in luring the opposition to him.

Wingers will fall down easily, the simple logic is that they play a position where they have to try to make something happen, you will always lose the ball at times but you try to make the most out of it for your team.
 
That one did actually look painful. But he has only himself to blame for his reputation.
 
Problem now is that not just the United fans get pissed off, but also the refs wont give anything in his favour. Like last night when the City player clearly caught him but the ref just played on.
 
I thought he cut down on his antics last night. Got a painful-looking kick early on and didn't even go down. The Barry challenge would have put anyone on their arse.

Very poor game though. Worst of the season. Maybe still hampered by his groin?
 
I thought he cut down on his antics last night. Got a painful-looking kick early on and didn't even go down. The Barry challenge would have put anyone on their arse.

Very poor game though. Worst of the season. Maybe still hampered by his groin?

Was he affected by the flu? On twitter Rio said that a few players were playing through illness. Maybe he was one of them. Looked very unlike him.
 
He was probably rushed back a game too early. But we couldn't expect Nani to beat 6 men and score. There wasn't enough players around him to be involved in the game and to Shittys credit, they double teamed him very quickly.

I was impressed with his attitude though, one of the few games that he didn't act like a fairy. Got fouled twice badly and nothing given.
 
I thought he cut down on his antics last night. Got a painful-looking kick early on and didn't even go down. The Barry challenge would have put anyone on their arse.

Very poor game though. Worst of the season. Maybe still hampered by his groin?

Definitely. He looked unable to accelerate to me.
 
I just wish he could beat the first man with a corner every now & then.

Worst game from Nani this season. Not many players stood out though so it's unfair to pick him out
 
As everyone said...it just didn't happen for him tonight, injury plus City actually being pretty good collectively might have had something to do with that.

The things that bother me about Nani are his free kicks(when he goes for goal) and corner kicks.

Does he not practice these in training? For someone blessed with so much talent and ability they are just so so so poor. He gets such lovely whip and zip into his crosses at times, yet his corners are always slow deliveries with a high arc...

His free kicks...:mad:

The one he had early on last night, which he did nothing with, didn't belt it, didn't curl it, just hit it back to Hart. Sort it out lad.

*Hope he trains well the next couple of days, we're going to need him to be back to his best to beat Villa.
 
I just wish he could beat the first man with a corner every now & then.

It really baffles me.
I refuse to believe he can't put more height and power on his corners, if he wanted to.
There seemed to be a point to the 'first post'-corners at the start of the season, where the plan seemed to be to target O'Shea or Rio at the first post for them to nudge it on, but now we don't even have a man on the first post.

The corners must work in training for him to keep taking them and taking them that way. It's been going on for months now.
 
The corners are a mystery, but it's not just Nani who takes them like that. Gibson, Carrick, Giggs do as well, it must be some sort of odd tactic.
 
statistics show that more goals are scored in the second phase of play from a corner. ie after the ball has been cleared once. united have played on this for a long time by aiming for the first defender and it works-cheeck the stats. makes me smile when people criticise. its actually genius
 
The corners are a mystery, but it's not just Nani who takes them like that. Gibson, Carrick, Giggs do as well, it must be some sort of odd tactic.

Disagree with that. For all his sins, Gibson has consistently taken a decent corner. Carrick too.

Giggs is more hit and miss but when he gets them right they're perfect.

Nanis has also taken plenty of decent corners in his time, to be fair. Not for a long time though. Which is why our best corners have been when him and Evra work it short.
 
statistics show that more goals are scored in the second phase of play from a corner. ie after the ball has been cleared once. united have played on this for a long time by aiming for the first defender and it works-cheeck the stats. makes me smile when people criticise. its actually genius

Yep. It's genius when the ball gets cleared to the halfway line and then we just lump it back into the box, or play it back to Nani who is offside.
 
Disagree with that. For all his sins, Gibson has consistently taken a decent corner. Carrick too.

Giggs is more hit and miss but when he gets them right they're perfect.

Nanis has also taken plenty of decent corners in his time, to be fair. Not for a long time though. Which is why our best corners have been when him and Evra work it short.

I'm not saying it relation to how good they are at corners, more so that they seem to be getting instructed to keep them near post and low. I think Nani was just a bit poor at them last night, but in a lot of games, especially against bigger (taller) teams, we've been intentionally doing that.
 
Was not his best game, but boy you got to whip in better corners.
 
Not sure about Carrick, but yes Gibson is probably the best corner taker in our first team squad (based on the few times he's actually taken them). It does my head in he normally doesn't take them.

Pretty hard to do from the bench don't you think?
 
Why doesn't Scholes take corners for us these days? Sure in the past we've had some players with great accuracy but, would seem today from a dead ball that needs to be placed to a point - he'd be the man for it.
 
Why doesn't Scholes take corners for us these days? Sure in the past we've had some players with great accuracy but, would seem today from a dead ball that needs to be placed to a point - he'd be the man for it.

Yeh he did use to take them didnt he? Cant remember how good they were though.
 
Why doesn't Scholes take corners for us these days? Sure in the past we've had some players with great accuracy but, would seem today from a dead ball that needs to be placed to a point - he'd be the man for it.

So he can direct the play once the ball is inevitably cleared by the first defender in the box
 
I think it's laziness which is a shame as hitting a decent corner kick isn't the hardest thing in football and if Nani wanted to (or SAF) then we'd see some drastic improvement.Maybe it's an area of the game where SAF feels there is no need to focus on
 
He is an excellent talent, can dribble, shoot, has good physique, is a decent set piece taker but why on earth does he feel the need to go down and stay down as if he has been snapped in half every single time there is a little bit of contact?

Last night it was the local derby and he still fannied about. Does my head in. He is too good a player to be rolling around and feigning injury. He is now making it difficult for officials to give fouls in his favour because simply he has made it difficult for them to tell whether there was real contact or not.

This is a disgraceful side of his game and is really an affront to football. Cut it out please

You probably picked the worst game to bring this up. The only time i recall him going down and staying down was when Barry followed through with his studs. I agree otherwise.
 
He is too good a player to be rolling around and feigning injury. He is now making it difficult for officials to give fouls in his favour because simply he has made it difficult for them to tell whether there was real contact or not.

This is a disgraceful side of his game and is really an affront to football. Cut it out please

He wont do that a lot now I would imagine. Or at least he wont stay down too long. He saw the benefit with that 'ref said play on' goal against Spurs.
 
Pretty hard to do from the bench don't you think?
Even when on the field he almost never takes them. There was that Carling Cup match last season where he provided what was probably our most consistent corners since Becks, but otherwise it's one here and one there when about four other players are all off the field. So obviously I'm basing his corner taking ability on a small amount, but he's certainly looked a good bit better and more consistent than any one else.
 
Not a lot wrong with Obertan's crosses. When he bothers to put them in.
 
Super Nani.. wasn't so super with those freestyle skills was he, expected more from him.