Nani

I never understand why people on here take such umbrage at players being given a bollocking. Either they haven't played the game or are very sensitive souls. But I assure you Nani won't have given it a second thought, just as he doesn't when he gets a Berbabollocking on a weekly basis. It's all water off a duck's back to them.



I posted this in the wrong thread :lol: Agreed though Brophs, some people have an unreleastic view of how footballers communicate, and how they take criticism. If it were the case, then transfer windows would be insane.

Yeah, and people thought him and Berbatov hated each other, until that Blackburn game, when suddenly it became the opposite case.

I tell you what, these are professionals at their peak, playing for arguably one of the greatest clubs in the world. You have the right to show anger on the pitch, if the players around you aren't performing. I can understand Berbatov showing annoyance at Nani, here's a man with the touch of a god, being fed balls well past him for the chase, he admonished Nani a couple times, the next ball came to his feet and they were celebrating...

What's a player meant to do? Walk over, 20-30 yards at a time and have a quiet word? Let them know after half-time, or even the match? It's fecking football, sometimes you have to make your point in order to avoid the same mistake, that's all we are seeing. If there was real disharmony between players, it wouldn't go on like this anyway, Fergie simply wouldn't allow two players who have a problem with each other, to take their frustrations out onto the pitch constantly.

All it is is constructive criticism at the end of the day. Nani isn't going to turn around and think, feck me, Rooney really hates me today, he's going to think why did I do that, and then look to correct it. Simply, alot of people picture United as some kind of fairy world where all players never have a bad word to say about each other, or there's nothing negative ever to be said, but that's not reality, and certainly isn't football.
 
Of the 11 league losses Manchester United have suffered since April 2008, Nani has started none of them. Reds undefeated in his last 41 league starts.

We should never have left him out against Chelsea last April, that for me was one of the very few genuine bloopers Sir alex has made in recent times, Nani was on fire at the time and we were already without Rooney for the game, we basically had ravaged ourselves of our best 2 attackers one by choice, it was notable that within 10 minutes of coming on Nani created our one decent move of the game and we scored from it.

Anyway, Great player, frustrating at times but id honestly not trade him for any other winger in the country.
 
Nani was annoying me on Monday night when he kept trying to do that 'heel flick type thing' (that's its proper name) when cutting inside, the one Ronaldo used to do a lot, simply because it didn't work and it was clear that Clichy was expecting it and yet he must have tried it 3 times, blowing our breaks in the process.

It's hard to be too pissed off with him though considering the season he's having so far, his productivity is fantastic and that stat above regarding us not having lost in his last 41 starts is just incredible. Hopefully he'll stop trying that ''heel flick type thing' against Chelsea and will give Cashley a torrid time. Or he'll try it again and pull it off totally proving me wrong, and I'll be just as happy with that!
 
Congratulations to Nani - our 2011 Player's Player of the Year!

Well deserved Nanners.

Good confidence boost too, in time for the CL final.

Deserves it. Barely edges Vida because of his direct contribution but Vida has been terrific ALL season. Fair fecks to Nani for keeping us in it!
 
Players Player of the Year, and Hernandez only beat him by 1% to the Fans Player of the Year award as well.

I'm so happy for him. His improvement has been exceptional over the last 2 seasons and deserves to be recognised on a night like this. Finally he can feel like he has the full trust and respect of team mates and fans alike. When his confidence is high he's simply world class. These days Nani has become an integral member of our squad and I hope he doesn't look back.
 
I love it that he's won it because he's the sort of player that could infuriate team mates from time to time, but the fact they've selected him shows they understand and appreciate what he does.
 
Well deserved

He also deserved the Premiership Player of the year too but hey, the press/players are retarded.
 
I love it that he's won it because he's the sort of player that could infuriate team mates from time to time, but the fact they've selected him shows they understand and appreciate what he does.

I think this is the key here. I also feel he operates to instructions a lot of the time and he has a free role. Yes he can be frustrating but so do many flair players.With Valencia operating in a more conventional way the less predictable Nani together with Valencia gives teams a bit of a headache to defend against.

The choice shows his popularity with players even if some fans are divided on the issue
 
Easy now, let's not be mentioning Antonio!

Nani is clearly given a license to shoot though, he has the bestlong shot in our squad (yes, better than Gibson!) so it's understandable.
 
OllieHoltMirror

Glad for Nani that United players voted him POTY. Obviously a sympathy vote. Bloke's so good he doesn't even get in first team any more

jimshelley17

how can Nani be Players' Player of the Year #MUFC. Hasn't got the character for big games that Chicarito has so won't even start v. Barca

jimshelley17

@OllieHoltMirror bang on about #Nani. Been poor since Xmas. Would Fergie ship him out for Ashley Young do u think ? #MUFC

OllieHoltMirror

@jimshelley17 Not sure he'd ship him out but Young will either be at United or Liverpool next season. Nani's time would be more limited

Journos of The Mirror, ladies and gentlemen.
 
Really glad for him and I think it is very well deserved, though I would have preferred Berbatov get it as I think its his goals that kept us in the title race whilst Rooney went AWOL.

Anyway, Im hoping this is a landmark moment in Nani's Manchester United career, that he now has found the confidence, maturity and inner knowledge about his capabilities and talents so that he can consistently deliver against his huge God given talents.

To be honest, I was never quite sure of him but I think Ronaldo leaving was critical for his own personal development. Its been an amazing transformation in the past 18 months and he is undoubtedly our most improved player. Who knows, next season, he could reach Ribery/Ronaldo levels of performance .... the world is literally at his feet.

As for Holts stupid comments above, Nani knows its a squad we operate and depending on the opposition and tactics, he will rotate along with Giggs, Park and Valencia. I dont think he has a problem with that.
 
I think Holt's going beyond his remit as a sports journalist; he seems more like a biased fan than a professional writer. Someone should have a word, but no-one will, as controversy sells.
 
I think its great that Nani won this award.

Goes to show that we really shouldn't try and read things into players actions on the pitch. Nani often appears to be the player that others (esp Rooney and Berbatov) get most frustrated by but good to see there is respect there as well!

I remember a few seasons ago with people judging how Ronaldo must be as a teammate by the 90 minutes on the pitch they see each week.
 
I think its great that Nani won this award.

Goes to show that we really shouldn't try and read things into players actions on the pitch. Nani often appears to be the player that others (esp Rooney and Berbatov) get most frustrated by but good to see there is respect there as well!

Rooney voted for Edwin... PANIC!
 
Should be a great confidence boost for Nani.

I personally thought there was not much to choose between Nani, VDS, Vidic, Giggs and Hernandez. Any one those could easily have been worthy winners.
 
Personally I'd have gone for Hernandez but credit to Nani for his key goals aswell as assists this season. By far Nani's finest season in a United shirt.
 
To be honest I thought Nani was clearly our best player this season. I don't agree with those saying it could have gone to any of 5 or 6 players.
 
Nani has been poor for the past 2 months. I think Vidic has been our most consistent performer throughout the season.
 
He's only been inconsistent in the last month or two since Carragher's tackle. Before that he was easily the most consistent attacking player in the premiership.

Nani's late season 'slump' lets Vida and VDS back into it IMO, but I'd still give it to him.
 
He has been inconsistent though. Personally, I would have went for Hernandez or Vidic.

Has he feck been inconsistent.

Unless you've just watched the last 2 months and not the 6 months before that where he dominated teams almost every game.
 
Journos of The Mirror, ladies and gentlemen.

If we put down the 'they hate Manchester United/Nani' schtick for a second, if it's true that we are linked/interested in Ashley Young, and they are wide-spread, not just by Mirror journalists, then the claims aren't that excessive are they?

If you think about it logically, wouldn't the signing of any player in any position potentially limit the starting chances of a player already in that position?

I know that Nani is two footed but I think Ferguson prefers Valencia on the right, although with every place there will be a degree of alternation there, so if Nani's best chance of starting a game is on the left, if we signed another player who can, effectively only, play in that position, saying that the new player may limit the starting prospects of the other, is hardly fanciful is it?

I'm not a great fan of any Mirror journalists but that preposition hardly seems illogical.
 
He has been inconsistent though. Personally, I would have went for Hernandez or Vidic.

You talk about inconsistency but yet you list Hernandez? He also had his ups and downs, and wasnt always a stand out performer. If you go by consistancy, only VDS or Vidic would be on the shortlist.

Nani for me, while at his best, has been the stand out performer and deserves that award
 
He's only been inconsistent in the last month or two since Carragher's tackle. Before that he was easily the most consistent attacking player in the premiership.

Nani's late season 'slump' lets Vida and VDS back into it IMO, but I'd still give it to him.

He was not just consistent, but also top top class. He scored (important) goals, set up goals, a constant threat and the defenders where shitting it. For me, there is no better choice and it will do him a hell of good to be recognised!
 
If we put down the 'they hate Manchester United/Nani' schtick for a second, if it's true that we are linked/interested in Ashley Young, and they are wide-spread, not just by Mirror journalists, then the claims aren't that excessive are they?

If you think about it logically, wouldn't the signing of any player in any position potentially limit the starting chances of a player already in that position?

I know that Nani is two footed but I think Ferguson prefers Valencia on the right, although with every place there will be a degree of alternation there, so if Nani's best chance of starting a game is on the left, if we signed another player who can, effectively only, play in that position, saying that the new player may limit the starting prospects of the other, is hardly fanciful is it?

I'm not a great fan of any Mirror journalists but that preposition hardly seems illogical.

No, it's pretty retarded is what it is.

Why would we do that? We already have cover, and players like Young aren't remotely near the ability Nani possesses, so they would be giving his cover a run, not really him.

But no, the whole thing is beyond retarded.....'Nani doesn't even get in first team any more'

'Hasn't got the character for big games'

'bang on about #Nani. Been poor since Xmas. Would Fergie ship him out for Ashley Young do u think ?'

'Nani's time would be more limited'

The Young bit, which certainly wouldn't limit Nani's time in the way Holt is thinking, given we already know he believes Young to be a better player than Nani, doesn't really make sense.

Nani's games wouldn't be limited to the extent he is implying because Young isn't near his quality, he would be a squad player. I very much doubt we would sign him, there isn't much need to given we already have much better wingers, and good back-up already.

The rest of it is complete nonsense. You have to remember they are talking about Young on the basis that Nani is massively overrated, and probably shouldn't be playing for us.