With his goal today, am I right in thinking MKII already has as many international goals as MKI, at the age of 21?
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Neymar, player of the tournament.
Robinho has 26 in 90. Neymar has 24 in 39.
25 including today? Either way, says a great deal about that particular comparison IMO.
Today was his 24th.
It was brief but I don't think he gets enough credit for his form back then. He really was one of the best players in the world.
Agreed. Think we agreed on that in the newbies too. I don't think using goalscoring statistics is a good way of proving your point though. Robinho when played wide was an advanced playmaker of sorts, Neymar when played wide is a supporting forward. You only need to watch them in the same Brazil side to see that. In fact when Neymar scored on his debut I think Robinho may have been MOTM as most of the attacking play went through him. The fact he often plays in the hole in behind two forwards for Milan says it all. He's a creator not a scorer. Doesn't take away from your overall point though, if he has a good World Cup next year he'll have surpassed Robinho's contribution to the national team by 22.
He is going to be a hit for Barca I'm sure. He has an eye for his team mates and is capable of producing that moment of magic which helps teams win the big games.
Non the less Barca needs to fix their defensive problems before the season starts. Someone like Thiago Silva would work wonders for their defense I feel.
But him and Messi in the same team next season will be a joy to watch I'm sure.
Non the less Barca needs to fix their defensive problems before the season starts. Someone like Thiago Silva would work wonders for their defense I feel.
But him and Messi in the same team next season will be a joy to watch I'm sure.
Yeah, the difference in style of play between the two that you just outlined also adds to the laziness of the comparison IMO.
I look forward to seeing more of Neymars creative game at Barcelona.
I don't know why you're all rabbiting on about Neymar when Fred has just proved himself as one of the greatest strikers in World football?
Weirdos.
Weirdos.
Now we see why Neymar's deal was closed before the Confed Cup
Yep, mystery solved. A real stroke of genius from the Barca transfer team again.
It's amazing they kept the hype under wraps for so long.
Did have a quick look for assist stats and it does seem like Neymar averages as many a season as Robinho though.
Neymar's displays during this tournament have convinced me that he is the player we were led to believe Robinho was meant to be. Neymar has had to play against some solid sides in this Confederations Cup and, in a competitive setting, he has flourished. I'm a believer.
I think his final ball is probably better than Robinho's to be honest. His lightning pace does help to open up the game a bit for that final pass but even then I think he's possibly got a better eye for the killer ball. It's in the build-up where Robinho's a level above him. Neymar's still very good in the build-up of course but definitely not to the same level IMO.
Neymar has played great and has started to change my opinion that he's just another Robinho (though still I don't expect him to be as good as people think), but the two Brazilian players I am impressed most and whom I think were Brazil's best player in this tournament are Fred and Paulinho.
Neymar has still a lot to prove, but for the first time this summer I saw his talents against good teams.
Neymar has still a lot to prove, but for the first time this summer I saw his talents against good teams.
Fred is just a poor man's Luis Fabiano.
But excellent at scoring when the team need it most.
I would also say that he is and was better than Luis Fabiano.
I would also say that he is and was better than Luis Fabiano.
FCBarca is hilarious. 
One has to remember that both in Santos and Brazil the entire team is built around him. One can't expect him to perform as good if a team chooses not to build the strategy around him. Will be interesting to see if Barcelona does that - otherwise I can't see him reach anywhere near the heights the brazilians wants him to do.
*cough* I ♥ Neymar *cough*
Ahh I see because not every club tries to sign players they want before the international tournies? What happened with Thiago before the U21 tournament?
Signing a player before an upcoming international tournament to avoid price inflation is standard practice. In other words we didn't need to wait until the end of the tournament to know why he was signed before it.
He's exciting to watch as long as he's not playing against you as he tends to act like a tit at times. I'm not going to judge him yet, next season will be very interesting. All you can say is he's got huge pressure on his shoulders in Brazil and had a good tournament for them playing a big part in them winning it, can't ask for more than that at 21.
Didn't you have him half paid for? Not to mention he was lusting after your lot so it's not like he was going to have his heard turned.
Didn't you have him half paid for? Not to mention he was lusting after your lot so it's not like he was going to have his heard turned.
Remember when they signed Chygrynski before the 2010 World Cup? That was just classic Barcelona.
I wasn't referring to that particular comment which, yes, was a bit of a
moment. But generally he's been fairly balanced in this thread considering his team have signed him.His killer ball is excellent. That pass he laid for Fred in the first half was simply mint. Took 3 defenders out of the game with one pass while making it look so effortless. Say what you want about the lad but this kid has quite a knack for the game.
Some people will always find faults with Neymar because he is a diver. People cannot see passed that.
Just like people would never accept Ronaldo was going to be world class until he was smashing 40 goals a season.
Just like people would never accept Ronaldo was going to be world class until he was smashing 40 goals a season.
I think everyone accepted Ronny as WC the season before he was smashing 40+ goals a season. Some even consider "that" season his best - to date.
Though I agree with the bolded bit. Mockney summed it up well. Some irrational dislike of Geymar.
Made this quickly. Neymar had a very good tournament, though before the Spain game he didn't have the "excellent" tournament that some thought. His best game is a tough one between Mexico or Spain.
I feel he could have the same impact on Barcelona as Ronaldinho had at least. Personal opinion
Wow. Big statements what makes you think that? I don't know if he will need to be that good or have that responsibility while Messi, Iniesta, Xavi are still the main/best player(s), he will play off Messi at first but if he can be as good as Pedro was 2 years ago but with more individual match winning ability that will be exactly what Barca need. I don't think he is as talented as Ronaldinho but he is very good for a 21 year old and should get better.
Charity match yesterday in Lima
Goal from Neymar
Goal from Neymar
When was the last time Barca spent big money on a player and he was successful?
I wish Neymar joins a long and illustrious list of compatriots who failed at Barca.
I wish Neymar joins a long and illustrious list of compatriots who failed at Barca.
Alves and Villa? Mascherano has done well too.
I guess Alves is the last one.
Villa's injury held him back. He also had to play on the left because of Messi. He would have been a superstar, if he joined us.
Mascherano is an expensive journeyman.
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