Official: Pellegrini to leave/ Pep to join Man City

Honestly, Manchester United is becoming the definition of fecking small time bullshit. Big commercial power, that's it.

It's like having huge balls and a tiny dick.
 
feck. Not looking forward to this.
 
Guardiola hype is as ridiculous and overblown as ever.

This will be the first genuine challenge in his managerial career.

This, and then some more of this.

Guardiola has kind of failed at Bayern. The PL has gone mental when Stoke and Westham are buying the best players from continental giants.

If United get Jose and Chelsea get Simeone. Guardiola will be lucky to have matched pellegrini's haul in his 3 seasons.
 
He's one of the few top managers that actually gives youth players opportunities. The way the schedule is in England, that's more of an incentive to use youngsters here and there. It's also safe to say that no other manager would've promoted Busquets and bench Yaya at that expense in his first year. Messi playing as a false nine is also a revolutionary move that made Leo jump to extraordinary levels.

I remember a coach describing one of the differences with Pep was courage, he is not afraid to take those sort of risks of giving youth players a shot. If there is quality in that youth academy, Pep will identify them and use them. But it's true, in 3 years it's hard to make that much of an impact. However, if there is one place he could change his 3 year plan it might just be City where he has everything he didn't at the end with Barcelona - food for thought

As true as that is in regards to him willing to push through youth, England is a totally different kettle of fish and it all boils down to the simple fact the chances of players coming through at city being of the same calibre of the ones that came through at Barcelona are non existent.
Nobody of note has come through in his three years at Bayern and that's despite the fact Bayern have walked the league for three seasons, there's been plenty of openings.

It's not a slant on him, he can't really do too much about the talent coming through but I think people need to reel it in a bit when they heap the praise on him and suggest suddenly City are going to have all these academy products terrorising Europe in two years. It's not going to happen.
 
City getting Pep while we're stuck here wondering if we'll make top 4. Just great. This is all our management's responsibility!
 
More concerned about Pelligrini .Really nice guy who as not done much wrong treated shabbily by citeh.
 
How do you feel about this being announced now? City are still competing for four trophies but now the players know they get a fresh start next season. I know they will still want to win but I don't see how this announcement helps Pellegrini for the games he has left.
Well given how much of a badly kept secret it was, it doesn't change much. Players should be hungry to win things, and effectively they're on trial for Pep already - he'll shake the squad up and there'll be some damage to the existing squad. I don't mind that it's out in the open.
 
Honestly, the reaction here is hyperbolic if ever I've seen one. It sucks that Pep has gone to City, but it doesn't mean much to us at all. They're already hard as feck to deal with, Pep will just keep it that way. Anything can happen in the next six months that swings things around for us, managerial or player-wise. The way we've been acting in the summer transfer markets shows our ambition so it's pretty certain we won't let this slide.

I'm not trying to be all-optimistic, it proper sucks they've gone and got Pep, but no way in hell are we going to become the next Liverpool.
 
As true as that is in regards to him willing to push through youth, England is a totally different kettle of fish and it all boils down to the simple fact the chances of players coming through at city being of the same calibre of the ones that came through at Barcelona are non existent.
Nobody of note has come through in his three years at Bayern and that's despite the fact Bayern have walked the league for three seasons, there's been plenty of openings.

It's not a slant on him, he can't really do too much about the talent coming through but I think people need to reel it in a bit when they heap the praise on him and suggest suddenly City are going to have all these academy products terrorising Europe in two years. It's not going to happen.

I wager you'll be surprised at what will come through
 
More concerned about Pelligrini .Really nice guy who as not done much wrong treated shabbily by citeh.
He's a grown man that took the job full in the knowledge of what they were like. In fact I'm pretty sure they were talking to him behind Mancini's back, too.
 
I knew this would happen but seeing it officially announced still felt like a real kick in the balls.

I have been a huge fan of Guardiola for a long time but when I first saw the headline my first thought was 'what a cnut'. :lol:

Great time to be a City a fan. This is really going to set them apart and help them attract the superstars. Hope he fails miserably in the Premier League but I cant see it.
 
More concerned about Pelligrini .Really nice guy who as not done much wrong treated shabbily by citeh.

Those feelings might just be misplaced. Wasn't that long ago that the Chilean himself openly courted & hoped for Pep to be hired, for the good of City. Doesn't sound like a coach who was in need of any hugs, he was openly looking to hug his eventual successor. Plus Pellegrini only recently extended his contract for a year with a special early termination clause included...presumably in the event Pep became available
 
More concerned about Pelligrini .Really nice guy who as not done much wrong treated shabbily by citeh.
Reports say that hes fine with it as he knew city wanted Pep before he even went to city
 
I'm just thinking it'd be funny if we're having our mini-meltdown on the bald fecker Pep - and then he comes in and - shock horror - fails. Anything is possible in sport, and it will be a challenge for him not being a part of a league that has only two or three challengers and where anyone can beat you on a given day. Plus, I reckon he won't get along with our press people. He's quite prickly, so it will be interesting to see how he deals with all that nonsense.

In any case, we will see....
 
I agree with this, it's a bit ridiculous really.
 
I agree with this, it's a bit ridiculous really.

They can't help it - United is the big draw still - until I suppose Pep starts at City..... and has them winning everything - maybe..
 
I'm just thinking it'd be funny if we're having our mini-meltdown on the bald fecker Pep - and then he comes in and - shock horror - fails. Anything is possible in sport, and it will be a challenge for him not being a part of a league that has only two or three challengers and where anyone can beat you on a given day. Plus, I reckon he won't get along with our press people. He's quite prickly, so it will be interesting to see how he deals with all that nonsense.

In any case, we will see....
He might still fail but finish comfortably ahead of us.

That's how bad we've been. Its not like the current City side has been amazing but we've won just a single game against them post Fergie .
 
People laughed when I suggested

*drones on forever* See? City's unearned wealth has the potential to totally alter the future history of the top-level English game. Without that money (for Pep's salary, for massive transfer-spending etc), Guardiola - commonly regarded as the world's best manager - wouldn't be going there. Utterly unfair to us and other clubs.

If owners like that didn't come in though then the status quo would largely stay exactly the same now. It's incredibly hard now to rise up without rich investors (even Leicester have been well funded) and the reality is we have a huge advantage in terms of our history in that we can whore ourselves to every two-bob sponsor. Of course Guardiola wouldn't have gone their if they didn't have the money and squad that they've been able to build in recent years but it's not like they're significantly wealthier than us. We've clearly got huge structural problems that have led us to a club run by Ed Woodward, a pretty mediocre squad and a manager that nearly everyone wants gone. If we'd run ourselves properly and looked like an attractive proposition, I believe Guardiola would have picked us as the more romantic club with greater tradition. It's not unfair, it's our own ineptitude that meant we gave up on getting him without seemingly ever being a serious contender.

Oh, it is unfair. But then, it's Britain, where everything's for sale...even if one's wealth is stolen.

I didn't laugh at you Steve, but disagreed. Rory is right IMO and your argument is a bit flawed in a world where United basically started with signing players for big fees. We are as much part of the business that is modern football as the other big clubs and taking the moral high ground in this matter is just wrong in my eyes and out of character for you. We have a sponsor for everything and we milk our fans for every penny they have, just because we were a bit quicker than the rest of Europe in terms of commercial revenue and also a bit better than most, doesn't make us more deserving than City. And like Rory said, if we handled Ferguson's retirement better, Guardiola would be joining us and not them.
 
I didn't laugh at you Steve, but disagreed. Rory is right IMO and your argument is a bit flawed in a world where United basically started with signing players for big fees. We are as much part of the business that is modern football as the other big clubs and taking the moral high ground in this matter is just wrong in my eyes and out of character for you. We have a sponsor for everything and we milk our fans for every penny they have, just because we were a bit quicker than the rest of Europe in terms of commercial revenue and also a bit better than most, doesn't make us more deserving than City. And like Rory said, if we handled Ferguson's retirement better, Guardiola would be joining us and not them.

Aye, as much as City's wealth may unfairly allow them to rise to the top of the game, there's really no other way for sides to do it. Leicester's incredible rise to the top has been incredible for the simple fact that it just doesn't happen to other clubs. United, Liverpool and Arsenal are the big three who rely on history/fanbase/stature in order to get plenty of money, while Chelsea and City had seen massive investment. Outside of that, there's no one...really. Spurs occasionally look dangerous, but never finish higher than 4th, and probably won't get any better than 3rd this season. I don't think we've got much of a right to complain as a club when we're more than happy to embrace the commercial side of things.
 
I'm just thinking it'd be funny if we're having our mini-meltdown on the bald fecker Pep - and then he comes in and - shock horror - fails. Anything is possible in sport, and it will be a challenge for him not being a part of a league that has only two or three challengers and where anyone can beat you on a given day. Plus, I reckon he won't get along with our press people. He's quite prickly, so it will be interesting to see how he deals with all that nonsense.

In any case, we will see....

It would certainly be quite the curveball. He's certainly going to be under massive pressure...and I do think he'll come in for very heavy criticism if he doesn't come close, or win, the CL. He'll probably win the league in his first season (and possibly beyond), but City fans may feel a bit deflated if he does quite well, but doesn't really turn them into a Barca/Bayern level team, which will be challenging since despite the quality and money at their disposal, they do have an ageing squad that will need some tweaks.
 
I'm hopeful this move will finally shut up the "Pep is overrated" camp. Since they're mostly PL fans, they'll see how different City will be than before. I'm not even talking about silverware.

Are you sure about that? From where I am sitting British fans don't believe keeping hold of possession and being patient is not entertaining.
 
Pep is boring as feck in his managerial choices so far. Bayern and Man City, two clubs which you're basically guaranteed a trophy with.

On the bright side, he never stays anywhere for more than 3 years and it will more than likely take longer than that to make City into the CL conqueirng juggernauts the depressed folk here fear they'll be.
 
Well given how much of a badly kept secret it was, it doesn't change much. Players should be hungry to win things, and effectively they're on trial for Pep already - he'll shake the squad up and there'll be some damage to the existing squad. I don't mind that it's out in the open.

Yeah fair point. You'd assume Pellegrini has been aware of this for a while and had already agreed to leave. Doesn't the current City squad have quite a high average age? A summer clear out wouldn't be a surprise.
 
This hit me like Obi Wan and Anakin in Star Wars Episode III.

"YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY CITY, NOT JOIN THEM".

"BRING BALANCE TO THE LEAGUE, NOT MAKING IT HARDER".

"YOU WERE FERGIE'S FAVOURITE PEP, I LOVED YOU".
 
If City win the league now, would love Pell to do a Bryan Cranston microphone drop after giving his end of season speech on the pitch.
 
I am yet to be convinced by Pep. I really like his persona and style of management but he is yet to prove himself at a team which isn't one of the best in world football.
The premier league is also a completely different ball game atm in terms of competition. I honestly don't think he'll settle as well as some believe. It will take time imo before they see anything special from him.

One thing that is certain is that they will be able to attract many big players now having such a well respected manager.