No they are not apart from De Gea Apologists and cultists most realise Letting De Gea leave was the right call , just because Onana is struggling big time doesn't change that it only means he might not be the answer as well .
I mean, we're scraping the bottom of the barrel here, but I'd still take Onana over him.Kepa is better. Do you mean Karius?
It's hopium at this point.I'd say there's no chance he'll ever be Edersons level. He's better in every summer way and his passing alone is light years ahead of Onana even at his best. Besides, these mistakes are nothing new. It was discussed on here when we signed him, this is just what we've bought. Ten Hag was either doing Onana a favour bringing him here, or he's just not as clever a football guy as painted out, and actually thought this would somehow not happen here.
DDG Apologists?! We will be much better off if DDG is still here, period. We will be comfortably qualify for next round of CL. We will also be higher at PL position.
Mind you, I agree that letting DDG go was the right decision considering that he was on very high wages but we did a major blunder here by significantly weaken our position.
What exactly you are this basing upon honestly it's not as if we didn't bomb out of Champions league group stage with De Gea in goal or finished outside top 4 as well .
Look Onana looks to be a mistake right but that's a separate discussion all together .
DDG Apologists?! We will be much better off if DDG is still here, period. We will be comfortably qualify for next round of CL. We will also be higher at PL position.
Mind you, I agree that letting DDG go was the right decision considering that he was on very high wages but we did a major blunder here by significantly weaken our position.
Agreed, our scouting is terrible.Something seriously wrong with our scouting.
We spend big money and get a pile of shit. Liverpool spend the same and get Alisson.
A contract is only valid when all involved sign it. If de Gea had signed it before the CEO (or whoever at United does this for player contracts) did, there is nothing he could sue United about.Get real don't be so fecking naive and gullible had there been any contract signed by De Gea, he would have sued United and won and rightly so .
I'm really not sure why people keep blaming this one on "scouting". Onana was not this bad at shot stopping at Inter. He was, in fact, statistically one of the best shot stoppers in the Champions League last season.
Frankly, what's going on right now just has to be a confidence thing for me. It does not make any fecking sense that he has just magically become this bad since joining us.
He definitely makes mistakes for the first 2. Even if the wall did poorly and it looks like Martial may head it, Onana misjudges the flight of the ball on both and that's on him.Instead of putting all the blame for tbe goals on Onana for all the goals we need to be asking why the wall had a massive hole in it on the first one that allowed the ball through, why Martial flicked his head toward the ball on the 2nd like he was going to head it away but didnt bother to actually jump to it, and where were the defence on the 3rd one when we somehow ended up with Mainoo being the furthest player back trying to put a challenge in.
If the players in front on Onana had have done their jobs properly tonight none of those goals would have been scored.
I'm really not sure why people keep blaming this one on "scouting". Onana was not this bad at shot stopping at Inter. He was, in fact, statistically one of the best shot stoppers in the Champions League last season.
Frankly, what's going on right now just has to be a confidence thing for me. It does not make any fecking sense that he has just magically become this bad since joining us.
He shat the bed in fa final and europa just last year, mate.DDG Apologists?! We will be much better off if DDG is still here, period. We will be comfortably qualify for next round of CL. We will also be higher at PL position.
Mind you, I agree that letting DDG go was the right decision considering that he was on very high wages but we did a major blunder here by significantly weaken our position.
Seemed like it was true. He has been playing well after the bad start. But I don't know how you recover from today. That gets in your head. A keeper with the yips gets you killed. It puts the back line in the mindset that they cannot give up a shot...and that is no way to defend.
it was justified… He’s been doing great lately. They jinxed him.
Yes it's true that he had been playing well recently, felt like he had got over the early bloopers and this was even backed up by the stats, but this performance is definitely 'two steps back'
This being his first season doesn't deter his shot stopping ability, he just isn't that good as a shot stopper, or with the ball at his feet.Its his first season for us cut him some slack. Think about Schmeichel and De Gea their first seasons. They were erratic as well.
Everyone with eyes knew what we were getting into when we bought this guy, same with Mount.
The only exception to this is ETH and United’s crap scouting department.
Agreed. That stat is a real surprise - I would not have thought so.
That’s absolute bollocks.Something seriously wrong with our scouting.
We spend big money and get a pile of shit. Liverpool spend the same and get Alisson.
The barthez comparisons aren’t going away are they. His errors used to send us out of Europe as well.
We're letting in plenty of shots. He may not be making many superhuman saves, but he has been making many expected goal bound saves. Quite many are even shots from inside our box.I knew he was doing well, but yes a surprise to me to read he's the best PL keeper on shotstopping. I have no done the maths to check if it's actually correct though.
His major errors have all come in the CL TBF.
We're letting in plenty of shots. He may not be making many superhuman saves, but he has been making many expected goal bound saves. Quite many are even shots from inside our box.
Nothing is surprised about the stats. However, stats is not telling the whole story about the technical aspect of the save (where the ball get pushed? how effortless the catch?)
A contract is only valid when all involved sign it. If de Gea had signed it before the CEO (or whoever at United does this for player contracts) did, there is nothing he could sue United about.
I agree it would be weird to give a contract to a potential employee that wasn't signed by the company before and never experienced it myself in my professional life. But would such a thing surprise me at United? No.My understanding is maybe it's wrong but If you get to a stage where all the terms are agreed and Club is offering a valid contract document containing all legal terms and stipulations then it would have been signed off by the club or it would come with a caveat if it's signed by so and so date by player then club also has to honour it and sign it .
Otherwise what's the point of players agents if they can't even do something basic like that .
This is not on the scouting department, it's on EtH and anyone who gave him so much power.Agreed, our scouting is terrible.
We bought Antony and Sancho for the price of five Mo Salahs.
Them change the GK trainers. It cannot be that our keepers are out of form for so long!I'm really not sure why people keep blaming this one on "scouting". Onana was not this bad at shot stopping at Inter. He was, in fact, statistically one of the best shot stoppers in the Champions League last season.
Frankly, what's going on right now just has to be a confidence thing for me. It does not make any fecking sense that he has just magically become this bad since joining us.
