You tell them to feck up and get on with it because your not Paul Pogba.
Seriously no midfielder in our team could rock the boat on wages, they are average.
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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Seriously no midfielder in our team could rock the boat on wages, they are average.
With the squad strengthening through the signings of Sancho and Varane, I think Pogba’s likely to stay put. He would be a fool to leave a squad capable of mounting a strong title challenge and a deep run in CL. I think this whole flirting with PSG is just a contract negotiation tactic. If we offered 350k a week, that should be our final offer.
You told me you had constantly remind people about it, why don’t you prove it to me those posts you posted.
Pogba can demand that salary at any club out there. Who else in our midfield will get anything close to that by any other team?
There is a reason why we can't shift our Deadwood. We pay extremely well. So this notion that suddenly paying Pogba high salary will cause unrest is laughable suggestion.
You want us to make a player who turns up for a half season and who clearly wants to leave our highest paid player when we just managed to repair our wage bill?
Another example of people buying into the hype but not the actual performances.
Ridiculous to think Pogba should be earning the most at the club.
Might as well give Martial 500k while we're at it.
But Pogba just hasn’t earned that. He really hasn’t. What actually would we be rewarding him for?
Say we give Pogba £350k p/w and we just get more of the same bollocks off him (inconsistency, flirting with other clubs, Raiola spouting crap). Then say Bruno keeps smashing it, Rashford turns into a machine, Sancho keeps his Dortmund numbers going for a few seasons, Maguire still playing every minute of every match at a high level, Shaw keeps his amazing recent form going. What then? It’s not just about the midfielders. Would you put them all on £350k p/w?
We shouldn’t set this dangerous precedent, especially with someone who’s done nothing to deserve it.
DDG earned that contract on keeping us competitive in one of our worst spells as a football club. He was also very loyal and could've jumped shipped and left us in the muck a long time ago.
Pogbas performances haven't been anywhere near the level DDG was putting up week in, week out prior to giving him that contract. A lot forget just how much he saved us during the Moyes/LvG/Jose era, they base what he's earning now on his current performances. But it's his performances during that spell which his earnings should be compared to.
We already pay Rashford 250k and we are negotiating higher salary for Bruno.
We keep the image rights of player. So Pogba will always get more salary than Bruno for example. I struggle to see the issue here. As far I am concerned, 350k per week isn't such a huge salary for Pogba because almost all the club who can afford him will pay him that salary.
Talented yes. Influential. Really? Bruno has already been more influential than him
My issue is that I genuinely don’t see that he’s earned it, only that we’re paying it because ‘it’s Pogba’.
That's your opinion which Manutd negotiation team don't agree with otherwise they won't offer that much.
In my opinion he is worth that much. I am just concerned with his injury record in last few season.
Totally agree.
Yours is another opinion based your personal feelings towards the player.
If it were not then you would see that he was one of our best performers last season again, on form the best player in our team. Period.
This nonsense that he’s lazy and can’t be bothered is rubbish, not a single manager or player has said anything of the sort about him.
For his ability and what he can bring. You clearly think he brings less to the table than I think he does.
Excluding Bruno who plays in a totally different position nobody in that midfield is anywhere near close to Pogba. That’s why he gets paid more than them.
When we signed Sanchez on stupid money it disrupted the squad - absolutely no doubt. We should not be offering any ludicrous wages to Pogba. If PSG want to do it and he wants to get paid then he should go there. He has simply not shown enough in his time here to justify massive wages.
I totally agree on the sentiment over why Dave earned that contract, nevertheless your best players will want parity.
Particularly when they will be offered that amount, or very close to it, elsewhere.
That makes no sense. Essentially we'd be paying him a fortune for a few good performances then. There are other players (like Bruno) who are much more deserving of a big wage and Pogba is replaceable.
Of course Bruno has, totally agree on that. Now Bruno is somebody who could rightly claim parity with whatever we offer Pogba.
That said we still won’t improve on Pogba without a massive outlay and similar wages on top. Better the devil (or cheaper) the devil you know.
It does make sense that’s why he’s paid more than them already and would be in any club alongside those players.
Like it or not that’s how this game works. He would be offered similar elsewhere.
And it’s not a handful of decent performances, if that’s the case what are McTominay and Matic serving up?
I actually give Fred an easier ride than most for his work rate but he’s ultimately limited.
Whilst we might offer pogba the 350k a week to stay I can't see him accepting it. He's not being played in the position he wants and thrives in due to Bruno and also the need for 2 dm. Maybe adding Varane will allow us to use only one dm and Pogba can actually get played in his proper position.
I would want him to stay as he is a game changer and even if he's having a bad game he can still create that one chance that could win the game. We won't get anyone with his skills or vision for anything less than 80m and I'd rather spend some of that on keeping pogba here.
I'd write it into the contract if he stays then riaola has to go, we don't need that virus anywhere near us and if he leaves God help the team he goes to with him as an agent. 3 years time he will push to go to America for another payday.
I would want him to stay as he is a game changer and even if he's having a bad game he can still create that one chance that could win the game. We won't get anyone with his skills or vision for anything less than 80m and I'd rather spend some of that on keeping pogba here.
I'd write it into the contract if he stays then riaola has to go, we don't need that virus anywhere near us and if he leaves God help the team he goes to with him as an agent. 3 years time he will push to go to America for another payday.
At this stage I'd be fine with Pogba leaving IF we have a replacement lined up. As signing decent players can be tricky, do PSG have any potential players they might swap? Signing Pogba and Wijnaldum will surely make a couple of midfielders redundant?
Someone needs to remind you how often Pogba is actually reaching that form.
You want to pay him an astronomical fee for his 10 game blitz per season. A "world class" player who regularly drops stinkers when it matters, but it's convenient how only his good moments are remembered.
For Manchester United, he's not been the level anybody thought he would be. It borders a failed experiment. Time to thank him and move on.
He's 28 ffs, and still yet to find consistency. Time is moving on for him, and has passed for us.
The role he's expected to play is one he cannot play without being a massive liability.
He's not that key puzzle piece anymore. He's the piece you're trying to shove into the wrong space.
Breaking our wage bill again because "he's talented" has to be the most ludicrous thing I've heard.
Despite people saying otherwise, this team will be a hell of a lot better with a balanced midfield to support that attack.
Again, Paul Pogba is not some untouchable footballer.
They do have a lot of dross in midfield we could choose from.
Marquinhos or Verratti are definitely the two I would happily take from them but not in a million years
Yeah but I wasn't talking about their first choices. The ones who could be available if they buy Pogba are nowhere near good enough.
I don’t doubt his ability, I just doubt his commitment. I doubt his focus to the United cause.
There has been noise around him almost the whole of his time here and to me, it just doesn’t sit right that he even thinks he deserves to be our top earner while others around him, even if they aren’t technically as gifted, who strive and work without bringing any issue or disruption to the team.
If another team wants to pay too dollar for his nonsense then let them. I’d rather we didn’t.
Mate, not disgreeing that he could get the money elsewhere, but I totally disagree in that he has been underwhelming in the most for his time here. Don't get me wrong - I like Pogba, and on his day there are few better in the world, but he has been mega inconsistent. I guess I'm saying if someone else wants to pay him big bucks then let them. I'd prefer we were sensible and maintained some integrity in our salaries at the club. All of this is on the proviso of course that if he did go that we replace him. I'd go for a defensive/box to box option like Saul or Bissouma.
Sorry pal but this epitomises the 'Pogba is shite because I don't like him' narrative which I don't subscribe to.
Trouble is, I'm not forgetting how he was one of our better players when fit last season, and every season, and you are. Your forgetting it easily because you don't like the fact he isn't winning games for us singlehandedly from the base of midfield, just like most United fans that dislike him expect him to do.
He's a world class player, the entire sport will tell you otherwise. He has been at Juve, he is regularly for France, he's consistently one of our better players when partnered with bang average midfielders who offer little to none of the protection Pogba needs.
I won't change your mind of course. That's fine, agree to disagree eh. But I won't subscribe to this nonsense that he's rubbish and turns up for a handful of games.
More I think about it could see Ole using Donny as the midfield playmaker and buying a sitting DM when he leaves
Only Pogba would know for sure. The bond created by winning a World Cup cannot be underestimated as well having together for years together
OK that's a fair and balanced opinion. I agree we expected more from him but I lowered my expectations when we all realised that Matic legs were gone and from that moment he had absolutely no cover from a top level midfield partner.
What that did was make our midfield disjointed, so much so that McFred has become a thing, purely because one compliments the other to achieve just about what's expected from a top level DM.
I still believe Pogba's been one of our better players whenever fit, is consistently excellent for France and that isn't because he 'cant be bothered for us' it's how they setup to get the best from him. Just look how good he was at the Euro's. That player doesn't get paid McFred wages, whether people like him or not.
Yeah that's fine, does sound somewhat like your personal feelings towards him are the driving factor. I mean, from memory, he's mentioned Madrid once or twice? And the rest of the 'nonsense' or aka the 'circus' has come from his fat pig of a agent (the agent we knew he had before we bought him.)
People will have their own opinion. Mine comes from a good place believe it or not, for the benefit of the club, I believe we should retain our best players and continue to build. I don't believe we will get a more talented player as a replacement, no doubt in my mind, and if we did it would cost more than this proposed renewal anyway.
Perfect window for me would be to address the DM position properly, renew Pogba and go again with the new additions we have.
Differences in our opinion of pogbas worth aside, I would be happy for him to stay if we could add a decent DM, that would be one quality transfer window. I’d still whinge about pogbas wages mind you
Take your point, but for me a large part of the "he doesn't have any quality around him" argument was done when we saw the effect of Bruno on the team. Pogba was injured for most of the time during Bruno's early time at the club and he still managed to carry us to top 4, even with McFred. it could be that Pogba is just not that well suited to the PL. Maybe it's too fast. He tends to get caught on the ball a lot. I think a move would suit everyone if we could make it happen this summer.
McFred became a thing after Spurs demolished us and the penny finally dropped with Ole that Pogba can’t be trusted to defend in any two beside any other player we have. We need to play a defensively responsible 2 behind Bruno to get the best out of him and even if we get one really good defensive midfield player in we still can’t have Pogba walking around beside him. This has been done to death. If Pogba was as good of all round midfielder as you guys are making out then McFred would probably have never existed. The McFred that all the Pogba fans hate so much basically only exists because Pogba can’t be trusted in the middle.
Spurs demolished us as we had no pre-season and the entire team collapsed, not Pogba alone. But put Pogba's name as the one to blame, I'm sure he's to blame when the club canteen runs out of milk as well.
He needs adequate cover in midfield, always has, even at Juve, and for France. Do you think we've provided that with McFred? If you do then fair fecks to ya.
Let's revisit this next season when McFred and doing their thing and Bruno is the sole provider from midfield with nobody offensively talented enough in Paul's absence to help him out. I give it until Christmas before senseless fans are getting on Bruno's back and he becomes the replacement CAF scapegoat.
He didn't carry us though, his impact was felt to that extent because playing with Lingard/Pereira was almost like playing a man down. Martial was playing superbly and the whole attack really clicked in project restart with Pogba in the team. Bruno really didn't play much with McFred in his early time at the club, it was mostly Fred and Matic before the lockdown and Pogba/Matic after.
This I agree with. Its a feked up situation.