Paul Pogba

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I'd love him back but I can't get over the thought of a player leaving for free then resigning him for upwards of £60m, it's absolutely ridiculous.
 
And a younger player is typically on lower wages. I cannot see any reason to prevent us from buying him.

You spoke mostly sense, but if you think we're going to spend upwards of 50m on Pogba and not give him a contract of at least 200k+ a week, then you'd be living in fantasy land. Pogba would probably be our 5th highest earner if he signed (behind Falcao, Rooney, Van Persie and Di Maria -- maybe Mata too).
 
You spoke mostly sense, but if you think we're going to spend upwards of 50m on Pogba and not give him a contract of at least 200k+ a week, then you'd be living in fantasy land. Pogba would probably be our 5th highest earner if he signed (behind Falcao, Rooney, Van Persie and Di Maria -- maybe Mata too).

Di Maria has less than 200k per week, Mata too.
 
You spoke mostly sense, but if you think we're going to spend upwards of 50m on Pogba and not give him a contract of at least 200k+ a week, then you'd be living in fantasy land. Pogba would probably be our 5th highest earner if he signed (behind Falcao, Rooney, Van Persie and Di Maria -- maybe Mata too).

It's hard to argue with a poster named Goodman. If we do land Pogba, we're going to pay him a king's ransom in salary.
 
The fact that we 'sold' him for nothing is irrelevant now. Sunk cost and all that. He's a Juve player, he's a great player and if we can get him, we should.
Dropped 150 million in the summer including on a 20 mill loan player struggling to bed in. Now looking to rehire an ex player for 60. You dont see a pattern of madness emerging here?
 
Dropped 150 million in the summer including on a 20 mill loan player struggling to bed in. Now looking to rehire an ex player for 60. You dont see a pattern of madness emerging here?
If he wasn't an ex player and you just saw him for the player he was, would you think he would be a good signing?

The whole let him go for nothing and spending huge money to get him back, while it looks bad, means absolutely nothing. Spending 80 million on Pogba, is the same as spending 80 million on any other player.
 
Obviously we'll look like idiots if we're gonna sign him for a large fee, but we need to swallow our pride and do it. This guy is only 21 and already a complete midfielder and one of the best in the world and he will be at the top for the next 10 years at least.
 
Dropped 150 million in the summer including on a 20 mill loan player struggling to bed in. Now looking to rehire an ex player for 60. You dont see a pattern of madness emerging here?

Madness descended on the English prem some time ago. We dropped 30m on Berbatov, a sum which seems like chump change now. 27.5m for Fellaini last year.

I know this is complete bullshit, but the rumor that Adidas will help us spend 200m on Messi has not yet died. But if that comes to pass, it's going to redefine madness.
 
Madness descended on the English prem some time ago. We dropped 30m on Berbatov, a sum which seems like chump change now. 27.5m for Fellaini last year.

I know this is complete bullshit, but the rumor that Adidas will help us spend 200m on Messi has not yet died. But if that comes to pass, it's going to redefine madness.
So at what point does cynical disaffection trump any last vestiges of a love for the game? If you can answer "never" to that question, you might want to check the way you were raised.
That said, I'd definitely go for Messi. Messi's money in the bank.
 
Obviously we'll look like idiots if we're gonna sign him for a large fee, but we need to swallow our pride and do it. This guy is only 21 and already a complete midfielder and one of the best in the world and he will be at the top for the next 10 years at least.

Rival fans will probably laugh, but as soon as Pogba improves United they will no longer laugh. I just don't care about the previous history. If he's available, United should try.
 
We wouldn't 'look' like idiots. Apart from the fact that it's good to sometimes hold your hands up when you're wrong, we're under new management.
 
Rival fans will probably laugh, but as soon as Pogba improves United they will no longer laugh. I just don't care about the previous history. If he's available, United should try.
The fact of the matter is that he is obviously not available in January apart from in muppets dreams.....Juve obviously will not sell their best player in January when they are odds on to win the league again and also they will get mroe money for him in the summer when the bidding war takes place...He obviously will chose Real Madrid or PSG ahead of us. The smart money would be on him going to Real in the summer but Man City have a great chance of getting him with the Viera influence. Raiola the fat mafia wannabe will use us to get Pogba a better deal elsewhere
 
I'd be unconcerned about the price of bringing him back here, he's that good.

But it'd be funny to see the press have a field day, because they would. Souness would rip us a new one on Sky, the clown. :lol:
 
The way things are looking, we're up to our necks in money. Offer Juventus what they can't refuse. They'll sell, as they'll need the money and have enough midfield talent to get by.
 
If he comes back then he will want to start every game. If he doesn't play then he will want to move on.. I don't want so many undroppable players or maybe make players like RVP, Carrick droppable, Rooney shoudln't play eevry game either , oh wait they made him captain right?

Pogba would be nice and I don't care about how we would look like Chelsea doesn't look like fools with Matic, it is just money well spent... but I wouldn't want him for the former reason..
 
I really could give no fecks if we look like idiots because we sign Pogba. We sign Pogba and our midfield has the potential to be the strongest in the Prem, and one of the best in Europe. That's what I care about, now what opposition fans say.
 
I really could give no fecks if we look like idiots because we sign Pogba. We sign Pogba and our midfield has the potential to be the strongest in the Prem, and one of the best in Europe. That's what I care about, now what opposition fans say.

We'd look like idiots even if he moved to one of our rivals and won trophies there.

I say its better to look like idiots with him than without him.
 
I would love for the team to look like being run by idiots if we end up signing him back. Sometimes too much pride is not detrimental. I doubt he would wanna come back if Madrid are interested.
 
If he wasn't an ex player and you just saw him for the player he was, would you think he would be a good signing?

The whole let him go for nothing and spending huge money to get him back, while it looks bad, means absolutely nothing. Spending 80 million on Pogba, is the same as spending 80 million on any other player.
True, and furthermore, losing Pogba was actually a rare Fergie mistake, not a Woodward one. So bringing him back would hardly make Woody look bad; if anything, it would make him look decisive.
 
True, and furthermore, losing Pogba was actually a rare Fergie mistake, not a Woodward one. So bringing him back would hardly make Woody look bad; if anything, it would make him look decisive.
Yeh, I think van Gaal and Woodward would actually thrive on making this signing and really putting their own stamp on the club.
 
This is quite interesting that so many people would take him back, even though it would require a big fee and we would look like fools all things considered.

That said, I would take him too.

Not taking him back because he left before would be the dumbest thing we could do. There are people who already think he's the best midfielder in the world, give him 2 years and most people will probably think he's the best midfielder in the world.

And we wouldnt take him back, why? Because he admits he was impatient with a manager who told him he'd get chances, but ended up picking incredibly average players like Anderson instead of him? Its nonsense.

If Sir Alex was manager maybe he'd hold it against him and we wouldnt be interested. Maybe. But he's not the manager anymore. He'd have a fresh slate and relationship with Van Gaal.
 
Yep that Fergie was a right idiot.......


on the subject of a midfield dynamo he was. went for TC23 , that was f@@king idiotic and we will now pay 60m quid if he wants to come here to get someone we already fecking had. that was a massive fuc4 up. now two midfs will go out on frees because no ones paying for the brand.. he bought a grand total of 3 good midfs his whole time here - ince and keano which was a long time ago and carrick which was almost 10 yrs ago the rest were sh1t. TC23 over pogba , stevie wonder could see that fuc4 up.
 
Don't see why or how we'd be able to pull this one off. signing him would be great, but juve selling him wouldn't make sense. he's just signed a new long term contract with the club and he's still very young which means his value can only keep going north. reckon he'll be a Juve player for at least the next 3 years and if they want money in the bank, they'll probably look to selling Vidal instead.
 
Barcelona did it with Fabregas, that's the most recent example I can think of. His return was not seen as a shame, but rather romantically.
 
Same with Chelsea and Matic. No one is complaining there now, as it's worked perfectly! At the end of the day, if we go on to win title after title after buying him back for £60 million then no one will say it was bad buisness by us.
 
Same with Chelsea and Matic. No one is complaining there now, as it's worked perfectly! At the end of the day, if we go on to win title after title after buying him back for £60 million then no one will say it was bad buisness by us.
No chance the media will let it go if we bring him back for £60 million, we're a completely different beast to Chelsea. Of course if we win the league we won't care.
 
Barcelona did it with Fabregas, that's the most recent example I can think of. His return was not seen as a shame, but rather romantically.

Yup.

Couple other examples - Matic for Chelsea - who was shipped out in a part exchange deal for David Luiz and resigned from Benfica for €25 million.
Reus for Borussia Dortmund - Let go at age 17 due to concerns over his physical suitability and endurance. Resigned from Borussia Monchelgladbach in 2012 for €17 million.

Both of those moves have worked out pretty well so far. Pogba is one of the best, if not the outright best U-23 players in football right now and could be a mainstay for the club. Him leaving the club in rather dubious circumstances shouldn't ideally have a detrimental influence on our football decision making. It would be a rational move, rather than one stemming from emotions and help solidify the balance of our midfield in a time of need.

No chance the media will let it go if we bring him back for £60 million, we're a completely different beast to Chelsea. Of course if we win the league we won't care.

Aye, who gives a shite about the media's agenda ? We should do what's beneficial for the club irrespective of fearing a potential backlash. If Pogba is a massive success for United - which he very well might be given the talent, all of that journalistic narrative will just be accordingly rewritten in a more positive light.
 
on the subject of a midfield dynamo he was. went for TC23 , that was f@@king idiotic and we will now pay 60m quid if he wants to come here to get someone we already fecking had. that was a massive fuc4 up. now two midfs will go out on frees because no ones paying for the brand.. he bought a grand total of 3 good midfs his whole time here - ince and keano which was a long time ago and carrick which was almost 10 yrs ago the rest were sh1t. TC23 over pogba , stevie wonder could see that fuc4 up.

Forget about Cleverley, he played Rafael and Park in central midfield instead of giving Pogba a chance. Funny thing is that game probably cost us the title. Soemtimes even the best make mistakes.
 
No chance the media will let it go if we bring him back for £60 million, we're a completely different beast to Chelsea. Of course if we win the league we won't care.

I guess they will go on about it for a bit, as will opposition fans. It's not just us who missed out on him, as other teams (Chelsea, Madrid, City etc) could have picked him up on a free aswell. But if he helps us wins titles then I'm not bothered.
 
No chance the media will let it go if we bring him back for £60 million, we're a completely different beast to Chelsea. Of course if we win the league we won't care.

You think the media will rest quiet if Pogba joins Chelsea and wins things with them? We'd be taken to the cleaners anyways for letting go of such a player who then joined and won things with a direct rival. Rather be called idiots with Pogba than without him. Who gives a feck anyways.
 
You think the media will rest quiet if Pogba joins Chelsea and wins things with them? We'd be taken to the cleaners anyways for letting go of such a player who then joined and won things with a direct rival. Rather be called idiots with Pogba than without him. Who gives a feck anyways.
Yep. I say bring him back, whatever the cost and screw what anyone has to say on the matter.
 
You think the media will rest quiet if Pogba joins Chelsea and wins things with them? We'd be taken to the cleaners anyways for letting go of such a player who then joined and won things with a direct rival. Rather be called idiots with Pogba than without him. Who gives a feck anyways.
Oh I couldn't give a shit, I'd welcome him back with open arms. Just saying the press will definitely slate us, we're more of a news piece than Chelsea.
 
Oh I couldn't give a shit, I'd welcome him back with open arms. Just saying the press will definitely slate us, we're more of a news piece than Chelsea.

That's for sure. Whether he comes to us or goes to Chelsea, we'l get stick.
 
The only way it can look bad is if we buy him for £60million and for some reason he doesn't work (like a Veron) and we end up selling him for a huge loss.
 
The only way it can look bad is if we buy him for £60million and for some reason he doesn't work (like a Veron) and we end up selling him for a huge loss.
Well we'll look 'bad' if we sign him for 60M and we win stuff, really, it was just very bad business on our part. I don't mind, though, and I don't think a few articles in the media should deter us from going after him.
 
Couldn't care about the cash when clubs are throwing one hundred million on one player.

If he still have feelings for the red shirt it should be in Louie's and Woody's interest to bring elite talents to the club.
 
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