This was reported a while ago by some journo as being done wasn't it?
Pep Guardiola at City next?
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It feels as if it's reported every 3 months. After his first season, Pep was supposed to be fired and join City after we lost against Real. During the whole second half of his second season, he was rumoured to cut his spell at Bayern short and leave in the summer. Both didn't happen.
I'm not saying, it won't happen. It's obviously possible that he'll join City this summer. But it feels as if every Spanish and English journalist has at one point used the Txiki - Pep connection to get a few clicks/sell a few copies and it never was based on anything reliable. Who knows if it's different this time.
Dont fancy our chances challenging in the league if City have Pep in charge.
Not interested as Ancelotti as your manager? Currently I think he's the most likely, if Guardiola doesn't extrend. Actually IMO Bayern or United will be Ancelotti's next club.
Another one, could you see Guardiola as Spain's manager anytime soon?
Manager of Spain... No... ...because of the way he participates and voices his oppinion for the Catalan independence...
Ancelotti is kinda boring, not his football, he as a character. And he worked at so many different top clubs in all the top leagues, there's nothing about him that would feel special to me, nothing that would mean he'd be remembered as a Bayern manager at the end of his career. I don't mind if he takes over of course, he's an excellent tactician, plays entertaining football and would pobably give us the best chance to win the CL. But still, I simply don't get excited at the thought of him managing Bayen after already working for Juve, Milan, Chelsea, PSG and Real.
I don't think he's interested anyway, at least that's what he said recently when asked about taking over at Bayern. He'll get a job in England or he'll go back to Real in my opinion.
United can't afford to let Pep go to City.
Gotta show interest in him.
Gotta show interest in him.
It's Pep's fault that the media love to perpetuate gossip/innuendo? I love how much of a genius Guardiola is but I find it illogical to deem him responsible for things beyond his control. He has a contract, he's honoring it.
He's addressed short term contracts long ago
It serves to motivate the man while the other advantage is that it provides the coach better negotiating flexibility in this manner rather than signing a longterm contract and being unhappy with the decisions of the club's board.
Some might not like the constant links to City/Txiki et al but the Premiership is a very probable next destination for the ambitious coach who has always made it clear he will never have it as good as he had it at Barcelona - so that means he will experience different clubs & leagues to round out his footballing education...before returning
That's not the problem in any way? Of couse he's honoring his contract. And no, Pep's not at fault for the media's love to gossip, but he's aware of it, he benefits from the media by earning a shitload of money and he works in a job that puts him under public scrutiny, therefore he has to react to it. It's part of his job, doesn't matter if he likes it or not. I don't mind some of his quirks, I actually respect him a lot for disliking the media circus, for not trying to use it to manipulate referees, for not giving interviews more than the necessary ones through media contracts.
I do think he should make up his mind about his future at the club early enough to avoid this crazyness though. That's something entirely different and it can easily have a negative effect on the team or on the future of the club in terms of finding a replacement, if he decides to leave. I don't have a problem if it happens once anyway. If he wants to take his time to think about commiting for longer, fair enough. It's a big decision if we discuss him signing a 3 or even if it's only a 2 year contract. But if he wants to have that option every year and forces the club to go through that circus every year, that's a different story, a very annoying one. And you can't say he doesn't share any responsibilty in it, that's silly.
But that's only looking at what's best for him, not necessarily what's best for the club longterm? Therefore it seems very reasonable that fans who put the club way above him aren't too happy with him trying to maximise his influence while only commiting one season. It gives him the chance to feck up massively and then feck off leaving a mess behind. I don't think that'll happen, but it's possible. It's a massive contradiction. You give managers more power if they commit longer, not if they commit as short as possible.
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anyway, the original question was, what I want the club to do if it's christmas and he still can't make up his mind. It's not like I want him to sign a 3 year contract a year before his old contract was up. If he only wants to do 1year extensions, fair enough, but he should make that decision sometime in the first half of the season, not towards the end. That's hardly asking too much from a manager.
Especially since this has been dragging on for half a year now. First Rummenigge (and Pep) said they will talk before the season starts, then during the first half of the season, maybe even the international break and now it's after the first half but definitely before the calendar year ends.
At this point I wouldn't even be surprised if it would be made public that the decision will be made until the second half starts – but I would be very annoyed. In fact I'm annoyed right now (as probably the majority of the Bayern fans are), it's just silly (from a fan point of view) that it came to this situation with half a year to go for Pep. It's probably the difference in mentality but I just can't wrap my head around the fact that he hasn't made a decision yet.
The "Pep to city a done deal" news barely made it to germany media. Consensus of the local pundits is, no decision has been made and Pep himself is still undecided as of yet.
Bayern seem to be ready to give him what he demands - more influence in transfers and supercharge the youth academy (foundation of new youth centre 4x the size of the current facilities have been laid just last week), with a pile of money on top of it.
The new facilities will be ready in 2017 only, so Pep would only profit from it a short time should he accept a 2 year extension. But then, he wouldn't be the first one to go to Munich for a limited time and end up here quite a bit longer
Bayern seem to be ready to give him what he demands - more influence in transfers and supercharge the youth academy (foundation of new youth centre 4x the size of the current facilities have been laid just last week), with a pile of money on top of it.
The new facilities will be ready in 2017 only, so Pep would only profit from it a short time should he accept a 2 year extension. But then, he wouldn't be the first one to go to Munich for a limited time and end up here quite a bit longer
I've not read a lot about this, but it really does sound like Pep trying to levy a better contract for himself at Bayern, like most Barca players do when they are being linked to us.
He just seems far to sensible a guy to go to a circus like City, but never say never.
He just seems far to sensible a guy to go to a circus like City, but never say never.
Compared to Spain's biggest club and how Bayern can be sometimes, City aren't a circus.
I don't remember hearing that Muller or Neymar were unhappy that their clubs didn't buy them a birthday cake.
I was talking more about media, fan pressure. City are a piece of cake compared to those clubs.
Sorry but that's rubbish. Rule #1 from Pep, don't feed the trolls
I can't imagine that Bayern aren't in communication with Pep or Estiarte so it's hardly as you're making it out, that the club is effectively being held ransom at the whim of the coach. Continuity and clarity are important but knowing Pep, that he honors his contracts and left the club of his life in their best moment should be evident enough to Bayern management that they should prepare for the contingency of Pep not renewing. Because the flip side would hold based on your argument as well, I mean why haven't the club tied him down to a longer term extension? And if it's down to the coach failing to give his answer then it's incumbent on any good management team to consider alternatives in the event he does leave
And you weren't saying he shares responsibility, you said it was his fault for it dragging out this long. You sign Pep to coach knowing he isn't going to be SAF at any club and that he left the club of life after 4 seasons - I'd say it's pretty naive from Bayern's perspective to think he'd be in it for the long haul. Moreover, Pep did similar at Barcelona and no one held it against him - he made it clear from the start that is his way. Sounds more like it's on the club
What a crazy twisted logic.
What a well thought response
It's Pep's fault, better?
It's Pep's fault, better?
No, if you believe it's the club's fault, fair enough. I'm happy to agree to disagree. I read your post twice and don't even know where to start to argue against all the crazy assumptions you made. So yeah, it was a well thought response. It sums up my opinion on your conclusion that it's Bayern's fault and that the club is naive.
You sound like you follow Bayern well yet seem to have never understood who Pep is after nearly 3 seasons at the helm. He doesn't like to add fuel to the media fire of gossip/innuendo, responding to it much less denying it. It's what made that famous Pressy against Mou so exceptional.
You made an outlandish claim that it's on Pep yet there's no basis for it, I merely pointed out that if you're looking for blame, blame your club. You hire Pep yet then are surprised by how he conducts himself with contracts, it's absolutely naive
Who said I'm surprised? I said I'm annoyed by it and believe that the club should act accordingly and look for an alternative. I'm fully aware that there's the possibility that you simply have to accept it, if you want him as the manager. That doesn't change the situation, that it's him not making a decision which is delaying the situation and fueling the rumours. There's nothing the club can do about it except telling him to feck off. I said that if this is going to happen every year, I'd be happy with the club doing just that.
The way you twisted all that into blaming the club is completely mental in my opinion. There's nothing to base your silly assumption on, that the club is naive.
By not saying anything and sitting on the fence he's doing exactly that. If he has made up his mind already, he could've put an end to all the gossip and nonsense already. If he hasn't made up his made, he could've said so likewise instead of leaving everybody in the dark, thus inviting rumor to sprout.
And it's absurd to tell us to "blame our club" for the situation. The club has expressed its desire to extend and yet Pep still won't commit to either staying or leaving, putting us in a crappy situation where we can't plan properly for next season. Saying "Pep's Pep, deal with it suckers" is just an empty phrase and doesn't absolve him of his share of blame. Like someone complaining about Mourinho being a prick and then being told "well, he's Mourinho"... ok? He's still a prick.
Sorry but that's feeding the trolls and after 2 1/2 seasons, all Bayern fans should've figured this out about Pep by now. Surprised honestly to keep reading this take
Point was that it certainly isn't Pep's fault. Club has a simple option, prepare for his departure. If you date someone and they aren't committing, is it their fault or yours for not making your own decision?
Perhaps it's a language thing but you were fine with blaming Pep and I simply pointed out that if you are looking blame you are better served to blame your club - not the one who is honoring their contract and isn't required to do one or the other
Again, what a crazy twisted logic. It's really a well thought response, it sums up how I see your view on the matter.
What the hell does that even mean? What trolls would he feed by putting an end to speculation? This is nonsense. I'm out.
I don't know how Bayern deal with the press but maybe Guardiola already gave them his answer and both parts agreed on being silent about it.
It's a possibility, but it's unlikely looking at Guardiola's history of making late decisions regarding contract extensions and Bayern's problem to keep information like that under wrap.
You are probably right and it's not a comfortable situation for the club. The best thing would be to take the decision out of his hands.
What on earth would be the point of that?
I don't know maybe Guardiola don't want to talk about his choice during the season.
It's a massive conflict of interest if he has agreed to join City, especially if it was agreed last summer. Imagine if Aguero was unhappy and wanted to join Bayern or if they were fighting for the same player. Why would anyone sign a "pre-contract agreement" anyway? Especially him.
Thinking about it, I wouldn't be surprised if this is true - as disappointing as it is. He'd have such freedom there and unlimited funds, plus his friend who's the Director of Football I think.
We could try to get him but really why would he come into such a pressurised environment? If you do one wrong thing, everyone from press, pundits, ex-players, possibly some people from the club etc etc quickly get on your case. Why bother will all the stress? Think we'll be scaring off any potential LVG replacements.
We'll be left with Giggs
We could try to get him but really why would he come into such a pressurised environment? If you do one wrong thing, everyone from press, pundits, ex-players, possibly some people from the club etc etc quickly get on your case. Why bother will all the stress? Think we'll be scaring off any potential LVG replacements.
We'll be left with Giggs
If they agreed to continue - no point at all hiding it, discussions closed, team happy etc.
If they agreed to part ways, it will stay a secret for 0.5 microseconds. Bayern has to contact agents, talk to possible replacements, inform the team captain, Pep will start talking to people at his new club, ask around among players he wants to hire, find a place to live - 1 Million possible leaks
He is destined to manage in the PL sooner or later. He has clearly shown that it is in his character to try new challenges. The PL is the next one, almost certainly.
Being the City boss would arguably be the best job in the PL for him. He would inherit a good squad and have the cash to buy anyone he wants.
It would be frightening to think of the transfer coups that might be pulled off with City's cash and Pep's connections.