Pep Guardiola at City next?
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Oh boy, I've had a mare 
We have a very clearly defined vision: grow the commercial operations to saturation
point then sell the club.
My feeling is the commercial side will peak/saturate in 3-6 years and the Glazer's will cash out. I think our underinvestment on the youth side is a reflection of this shorter term thinking.
Just three of the several positions we need to fill will be more costly than £150m.
This summer, expect prices to increase substantially on 2015:
New TV deal kicks in.
Lots of clubs looking to spend
Scarcity of talent
Sterling and KDB were absolute steals in my opinion. Superb young talents. Exactly what we need.
Don't agree we need to fill several positions.
DDG
Darmian Smalling New CB Shaw
Schmidfield Herrera
New RW Memphis/Martial
New Striker
Is a very good starting XI with a lot of the players who are regulars now filling the bench. Blind Carrick Valencia Jones Young Fellaini Rojo are decent to good squad options. Maybe a third striker light.
Memphis looks horrifically bad.
Maybe he should stay as a sub - all that a 21 year old really should be, unless supremely gifted- but we need at least two wingers, assuming they are both excellent.
Adding four in the attacking positions is the absolute minimum we need. We have two strikers and one is absolutely done as a player. We have historically had 4.
Maybe he should stay as a sub - all that a 21 year old really should be, unless supremely gifted- but we need at least two wingers, assuming they are both excellent.
Adding four in the attacking positions is the absolute minimum we need. We have two strikers and one is absolutely done as a player. We have historically had 4.
West Ham then. Point is it doesn't take 300m to develop talent as the City development propaganda tells us.
It's an open secret City approaches all of United's prospects with outlandish offers. Deny it all you want, doesn't really matter to me. I must have imagined United threatening to boycott matches v City due to City approaching every young United talent they could get close to.
Oh well
For such an open secret could you please post a source?
Not many articles on the ins and outs of youth football in England and lets be honest, you know that. It's an open secret to everybody who has an interest in the underage sides. City's aggressive talent drive is well documented as is Uniteds threat to boycott derby games because of it.
Angel Gomes would be the most famous example of this, he has City knocking on his door daily to turn his back on us with each offer higher than the last.
Acting dumb now when you all you do is jump into the forum armed with City facts as to how United posters are always wrong in all aspects of Manchester City is disingenuous at best.
Ok, so you don't have any sources. I find it hard to believe every single United prospect has City offering them a blank cheque as you're effectively implying. City have a huge scouting network, so for one it makes no sense. It would imply United had all the best youth players and all are conveniently deemed perfect for the system City try and implement in their youth teams. It also ties into the view of City as reckless spenders. All in all I'm inclined to dismiss it as fabricated nonsense or at best a grossly exaggerated account based on one or two instances.
Be inclined all you want.
Rashford last year is another example where you went balls to the wall to get him to switch alliances and I could go on. United have threatened to boycott derby games a few times over the years but that must be over who gets the bigger dressing room etc.
Obviously.
Gribbin is another, and the Mirror had an article on that too
It's not just United but Liverpool and Everton have had City approach their most promising youngsters and aren't happy with the constant pressure.
Anyway this is the Pep thread..
Is there not a thread for nasty City attempting to poach all the United kids?
This one is for Guardiola to City or not the last time I looked.
This one is for Guardiola to City or not the last time I looked.
Says he's coming to England
Says he has several offers from England but hasn't decided.
Can't believe we aren't one of the several offers. Would be negligent if it's not the case.
Says he has several offers from England but hasn't decided.
Can't believe we aren't one of the several offers. Would be negligent if it's not the case.
As great as Pep may (or may not) be, he was always going to be a "mercenary". There's nothing wrong with that, but it was always palpable that he just saw Bayern as another notch in the bedpost. I won't really miss him.
Not that Ancelotti isn't a "mercenary", mind you.
Not that Ancelotti isn't a "mercenary", mind you.
I still don't believe that he will go to city over us.
A) City are not by a significant margin the best team in England
B) Lack of history for a Mercenary Manager
C) Lack of any stylised football that Guardiola can work on
It's between us & arsenal.
There isn't a challenge managing City for a man who managed Barcelona & Bayern - almost similar to how players will always move to Real Madrid. Simply- The name isn't there.
A) City are not by a significant margin the best team in England
B) Lack of history for a Mercenary Manager
C) Lack of any stylised football that Guardiola can work on
It's between us & arsenal.
There isn't a challenge managing City for a man who managed Barcelona & Bayern - almost similar to how players will always move to Real Madrid. Simply- The name isn't there.
Don't let @FCBarca hear you...
You set me up! Now the zealot will come and smite me with his righteous wrath. Thanks, RiP. My life is forfeit.
Beat me to it
You speak as a romantic fan - Pep (and many footballers) dont see it that way whatsover
@Piratesoup illustrated both his bitterness and hypocrisy in the same post.
Désolé RIP, mais bien essayer
What was hypocritical or bitter about his post? He said he was a mercenary (which he definitely seems to be) and that there was no problem with that.
Why people use the world mercenary instead of adventurous? I don't think that Guardiola moves for financial reasons, he just wants to live new adventures in different places.
That's fine if that's your opinion, but someone believing that he is a mercenary doesn't render that person's opinion de facto bitter, does it?
You're wrong I'm afraid and looking at it with the rose tinted united glasses on.
Like it or not city are one of the most attractive clubs to manage around at the moment for any manager because there is the huge potential to turn them into one of the best teams in Europe. They already have a decent team with a few individual top quality players but have lacked a manager able to take them to the next level, perhaps most important though is they have an owner that's invested ALOT of money in various things and seems prepared to invest much more where needed.
I don't understand your point when you say managing city wouldn't be a challenge for guardiola, it will be his biggest managerial challenge he's faced and one I think he will take. I'll be very suprised if guardiola isn't city manager next season.
I wouldn't be complaining though if he ended up at United id love him here but can't see it at all
I haven't judge anyone's opinion, I'm merely asking why the use of "mercenary". Because mercernary means that money is the main motivator, it's not a random word.
Edit: He did played in Qatar though.
City like PSG will win the UCL soon just like chelsea. Has di matteo got any credit for winning it with chelsea? City will chop & change manager until they get what they aim for - just like they do with the players. However - Half the city squad wouldn't make the current bayern squad including de bryune who they just spent 50 mil on. Half the players are similar to the bunch of players guardiola sold upon his appointment at barcelona.
If he was the type to challenge himself - he could have taken a bigger challenge than bayern initially.
We have a possesion based team, we have a manager who works in the same basis and tactics as guardiola's school of thought.
Is there any bigger challenge than having success with united after SAF? We clearly have gaps in the squad for him to fill with & also plan B's like fellaini.
I'm not sure i have red tinted glasses on bro-because with regards to arsenal & wengers age he may go there - especially if they win something this year.
According to FCBarca, everybody who doesn't prostrate himself constantly in front of the messiah Pepus of Barzareth is a bitter hypocrite.
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Now these are one of the darkest red-tinted glasses on the Caf. I believe you'll be proven wrong on all three arguments you brought forward, i.e. on the last one. At Barca, Pep refined a style that the club have followed for year. At Bayern, he built upon the foundations of van Gaal and Heynckes. At City though, he's the one who can lay foundations for an era. That's one of the most tempting opportunities for a manager, particularly if there's an abundance of finances available and key officials are good ole buddies.
So if Pep goes to city is that 4 more years before we can get 22nd
It's really funny that he picked you out of all the Bayern fans on the Caf for that reply. I think I called you a very frustrating, spoilt and/or depressing Bayern fan a few times over the last 2 years because of your constant complaining about Pep's tactics and match selections. It would have been surprising to read that you'll miss Pep after he's gone.
'Bitter' is such an overused term between football fans and it almost always makes the argument look weaker, the one using it look a bit silly.
Great post. Best part is where you label Pep a mercenary in the same sentence you try and claim City's lack of successful history would be prevent him wanting to take over.
Can't help but feel that this is going to be a miserable next few years for the rest of the PL challengers and the period where City really step it up a notch or two.
Hope he gets bored of them quickly, but the idea of us with LVG and then Giggs in charge, and them with Pep, is a pretty horrible one.
Hope he gets bored of them quickly, but the idea of us with LVG and then Giggs in charge, and them with Pep, is a pretty horrible one.
Depressing was the word
You really were. I hope that changes next season
.You really were. I hope that changes next season
I'm pessimistic in that regard. As I always am.
He would like to join us, but woody and company dont want, because we have Lvg and Giggs
No doubt he'll end up at the land of empty blue seats but no need to panic as; 1)It's far from guaranteed he'll be successful, 2) Can't see him wanting to stay there for long anyway.