Doubt it, Dan may have been to germany for too long and may have lost his sense for irony.Pretty sure Dans comment was tongue in cheek, of course it's a good thing
Pep Guardiola's Bayern
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Schweinsteiger set to make his comeback today.
Kickers predicted lineup:
Neuer - Rafinha, J. Boateng, Dante, Juan Bernat - Xabi Alonso - Robben, M. Götze, Höjbjerg, Ribery - Lewandowski
Bench: Zingerle (Tor), Benatia, Gaudino, T. Müller, Rode, Schweinsteiger, Shaqiri, Weiser, Kurt
So there still are Müller, Shaqiri, Benatia and Schweinsteiger who can be considered part of the core team on the bench, with only Höjbjerg as "emergency" option in the first 11. Bayern are only in trouble if Neuer hurts himself.
Kickers predicted lineup:
Neuer - Rafinha, J. Boateng, Dante, Juan Bernat - Xabi Alonso - Robben, M. Götze, Höjbjerg, Ribery - Lewandowski
Bench: Zingerle (Tor), Benatia, Gaudino, T. Müller, Rode, Schweinsteiger, Shaqiri, Weiser, Kurt
So there still are Müller, Shaqiri, Benatia and Schweinsteiger who can be considered part of the core team on the bench, with only Höjbjerg as "emergency" option in the first 11. Bayern are only in trouble if Neuer hurts himself.
To the other Bayernguys here; does someone know if the stadium makes more around 30 or 25 million a year?
Some say 25, some 30. With the extension to 75000 seats I hope for 30.
A top transfer more every summer.
Some say 25, some 30. With the extension to 75000 seats I hope for 30.
A top transfer more every summer.
According to this: http://fussball-geld.de/vereinsstruktur-bayern-muenchen-allianz-arena-muenchen-stadion-gmbh/
the Arena generated 46-54 Mio turn-over the last couple of years (variations due to CL final etc.). The costs actually were on a similar level, making the profit between -3.7Mio to 2.2Mio, depending on what year you're looking at.
Among the cost are depreciation at about ~20Mio, as are (were) the interests, which will be gone now.
So bottom line, it is mostly the money they paid for interest so far that is being freed, around 20Mio. I'm sure a huge part of it will be invested in infrastructure, there will be a new youth centre built at the old Fürst-Wrede-Kaserne.
Some money of the shares Adidas bought lately are used to finance the new youth centre.
Thanks very much! Great inside in that article.
I love that we will build the new youth centre next to the arena. I want a FCB heartland with the Allianz in its core. Around it the youth centre and other buildings like a huge FCB store and so on.
Uli will have a few ideas for that Im sure.
3 months? I've fractured my ankle, didn't have an operation and was back in 2 months. Soft professionals!
Well, the old Kaserne is quite a bit away from the Arena, which is next to not much at all save a motorway junction, a waste dump and a DIY superstore
The youth centre would have been built either way, debt or no debt on the arena. Either way, 20Mio more per year will be available for whatever - players, stadium extension, etc..
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Love itWell, the old Kaserne is quite a bit away from the Arena, which is next to not much at all save a motorway junction, a waste dump and a DIY superstore
Haha, yes. We could buy all of it so.
Is that... it is Hoeness in prison, isn't it?
Allofs, Watzke and Tönnies on the left, but who's the fourth guy? Is it Kind from Hannover?
Would say so too.
You might want to learn to stop giving the ball away in your own half when you're down to 10 men.
That was fun. Kinda like I expected. Playing a highline in a game like that is such a dangerous game, you need 100% concentration for the full match and in a game that's more or less meaningless for us and incredibly important for the opponent, you'll always make at least one too many mistakes. It's funny that we needed 3 of them to actually lose though.
The control and possession at some stages of that match were breath taking. Up there with some of the very best displays of the game. 3 mistakes at the back cost them tonight but make no mistake, that team is phenomenal.
Not a huge fan of Pep's possession based game but the way they moved the ball out of the back while being pressed was amazing to watch.
Pep isn't everybody's cup of tea, and I know they lost, but they were so good down to 10 I had forgotten they were down to 10.
They lost but they really impressed me. At times it was too videogame like their ability to keep the ball.
They really play an economical game, you don't see too much gung ho plays or reckless dribbling or shooting unnecessarily. Classic Guardiola team in this aspect.
Even their passing from the back is smart and almost risk free despite being pressed, due to their defenders and Alonso's passing ability and composure on the ball. It's just simplicity at its very best. Its most certainly not easy to execute (you can see Guardiola's input and the hours the players must have put in training to play in this particular style) and not boring at all.
I initially thought Guardiola would coach the flair and individuality out of the likes of Gotze, Ribery and Robben but that wasn't the case.
He's made them more tactically aware, better team players and ultimately better players. They seem to be willing to function as an unit with their teammates instead of being selfish individuals constantly looking to make something happen. They pick their moments sensibly and do so only when the game at that instance requires a dribble or a defense splitting pass. Thus increasing their effectiveness and making them more of a consistent threat instead of the rather impact players that they were.
Their pressing as a team was pretty impressive at times and it's hard to think of a better team in this regard with the sole exception of Marseille, who are absolutely brilliant at it, this season under Bielsa that is.
Really enjoyed watching them play and they really didn't deserve to lose. Individual errors and Aguero's sheer ruthlessness cost them the game. However, it shouldn't take away the fact that they played very well with 10 men against an expensive team, away in what was a dead rubber match for Bayern.
Even their passing from the back is smart and almost risk free despite being pressed, due to their defenders and Alonso's passing ability and composure on the ball. It's just simplicity at its very best. Its most certainly not easy to execute (you can see Guardiola's input and the hours the players must have put in training to play in this particular style) and not boring at all.
I initially thought Guardiola would coach the flair and individuality out of the likes of Gotze, Ribery and Robben but that wasn't the case.
He's made them more tactically aware, better team players and ultimately better players. They seem to be willing to function as an unit with their teammates instead of being selfish individuals constantly looking to make something happen. They pick their moments sensibly and do so only when the game at that instance requires a dribble or a defense splitting pass. Thus increasing their effectiveness and making them more of a consistent threat instead of the rather impact players that they were.
Their pressing as a team was pretty impressive at times and it's hard to think of a better team in this regard with the sole exception of Marseille, who are absolutely brilliant at it, this season under Bielsa that is.
Really enjoyed watching them play and they really didn't deserve to lose. Individual errors and Aguero's sheer ruthlessness cost them the game. However, it shouldn't take away the fact that they played very well with 10 men against an expensive team, away in what was a dead rubber match for Bayern.
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Felt city were a bit fortunate, failed to take advantage of the acres of space behind the back line, if Navas could actually look across the line he could've been in loads.
Take away the individual errors and it was very impressive again, even and especially down to ten men. I think despite the injuries, Bayern have found a nice combination between Pep's Barca and Jupp's Bayern. Not as boring as Barca at times, not quite as exciting as Jupp's Bayern at times, but leathal and so controlled, even with a player less.
I'm not a Bayern fan and I can't stand their domination of the Bundesliga, but I'm impressed.
I'm not a Bayern fan and I can't stand their domination of the Bundesliga, but I'm impressed.
You are a top player?
Can't see past them for the Champions League this year, unless one of Messi or Ronaldo does something ridiculous. Bayern are just so good.
Barcelona won't stand a chance against them but Real Madrid could give them a game IMO. Chelsea could also be a threat to them as they are very well organized and could shut them down with a bit of luck.
Jupp's Bayern wasn't that exciting, people like to talk about it because it downplays Guardiola's achievement but I don't think they were any more entertaining under Heycknes than they are now. They were effective and won the Treble obviously but I'd say the quality of football is actually better now all things considered.
I don't think so. Jupp's team didn't hold the ball as much, they were looking for the kill. Their strength was attack, attack, attack. I enjoyed that more than Pep's more controlled game. But the overall quality in all areas of the pitch is better now, I agree with you there.
Each to their own I guess, for instance I found the football Barcelona played under Guardiola reasonably good but found Spain boring at the same time, possibly because there was no Messi hence no excitement factor there. I won't disagree that they played good football under Heycknes but at the same time I think they play good football now too, only different. I don't consider Heycknes football breathtaking or groundbreaking.
Agree on Spain, they were missing the surprise factor. I don't think Jupp was groundbreaking, I just felt his team stayed on the front foot even if they had a clear lead. They always wanted more no matter how many they'd already scored.
Jupp's team has the CL performances going for them. We played 2 big teams that tried to play attacking football against us and destroyed them in a way no one expected (Juve and Barca). We struggled a lot more to break down deep sitting teams under Heynckes than we do now and often looked toothless until we scored form a corner kick. Our treble winning team wouldn't have played as exciting against 10 men in their own box United or a well organised deep sitting Real side. Obviously we would have done better against Real than last season, but it would have been a very cautious game with few chances and not the fireworks we showed against Barca.
Many people also forgot that we only became a bit more counterattacking when Robben replaced Kroos. It was never really the plan. With Kroos, Schweinsteiger and Martinez in midfield, there was actually quite a lot of critisim towards our boring ball hugging and the lack of direct play. The games against Barca define Jupp's career now, even though it doesn't reflect his idea of football in general or his second spell at Bayern very well.
Many people also forgot that we only became a bit more counterattacking when Robben replaced Kroos. It was never really the plan. With Kroos, Schweinsteiger and Martinez in midfield, there was actually quite a lot of critisim towards our boring ball hugging and the lack of direct play. The games against Barca define Jupp's career now, even though it doesn't reflect his idea of football in general or his second spell at Bayern very well.
http://www.bundesliga.com/en/liga/news/2014/0000300995.php
From the site - Possession: Heynckes; 60%, Pep; 66%.
I feel people are often seduced by the two semi finals vs Barça when Bayern ripped us apart on the counter, now without stereotyping they were playing in a manner many united fans probably prefer. Don't get me wrong, Pep's teams love possession, but Bayern dominated possession of the ball under Heynckes too.
From the site - Possession: Heynckes; 60%, Pep; 66%.
I feel people are often seduced by the two semi finals vs Barça when Bayern ripped us apart on the counter, now without stereotyping they were playing in a manner many united fans probably prefer. Don't get me wrong, Pep's teams love possession, but Bayern dominated possession of the ball under Heynckes too.
Most of that difference is down to how both managers handled the game when we took the lead. Heynckes usually saw games out by replacing an attacking player with a defensive midfielder like Gustavo and sit deeper for the last 20-25minutes. Guardiola wants the team to see out the game by keeping hold of the ball. The general approach in the first 60minutes of games wasn't really any different until Kroos got injured, which obviously changed a lot.
So good until they meet the guys in white shirts. Madrid is better this season, stronger on the ball and equally impressive on the counter as they were last year. With Bayern, nothing has changed.
Thought they were brilliant before the last two goals Agüero scored. They didn't panic, they played their own game. Pep has even said they are yet at the level he wants them to be, can you imagine. I would say yes please to him being our manager after Van Gaal.
I know it's subjective, and I'm biased, but I think he's the best. He'd be perfect for you guys post van Gaal. Only City by virtue of the directors having worked with Pep stand in United's way.
I don't get the criticism he receives, he's a fantastic manager and his teams always play brilliant football.
Unfortunately the more successful he became at Barça, the more some myths started to grow and they grew to become pretty big.
How come Barça haven't been as successful post Pep as they were under him then if even fat sam could win everything in sight at Barça?True. But even Allardyce would win everything in sight with Bayern and Barcelona.
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