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Hopefully we will get serious funds from PSG to at least have maneuverability on the market to do something big this summer.
I'm kinda tired of this too, Pogba should just come to the media and say what he feels without his agent counting every penny.
Yep. Have been for a while now. Hope we sign a good replacement though.
Let's be honest its just another rumour and its probably only been put out now as Pogba is no longer involved in the Euros,
It may well be Pogba or his agent putting pressure on Utd to cave into his wages demands which if the rumours are true are ridiculous.
If Pogba wants to go to earn more money and get his agent a nice signing on bonus that's fine, lets cash in now and buy someone who fits our team slightly better.
He's had his highs but quite a few lows and is getting injured quite alot now, perhaps because the Premier league is more physical,
I wish him the best if he leaves and if he's signs another contract I hope he can have a great season
It may well be Pogba or his agent putting pressure on Utd to cave into his wages demands which if the rumours are true are ridiculous.
If Pogba wants to go to earn more money and get his agent a nice signing on bonus that's fine, lets cash in now and buy someone who fits our team slightly better.
He's had his highs but quite a few lows and is getting injured quite alot now, perhaps because the Premier league is more physical,
I wish him the best if he leaves and if he's signs another contract I hope he can have a great season
Not necessarily similar, but the same position he occupies in the team. People might argue about where he plays best, but in every point in his career Pogba has played as some kind of CM. Preferably, we'd replace him with a CM better suited to our team and system.
Also, we can't force Pogba to stay. If he's not interested in signing a new contract then he wants to leave.
Grealish plays either #10 or as a playmaker from LW. We would have to pay an extortionate amount of money for him, bench either Rashford or Bruno (2 of our most productive players in the last 2 seasons) and then we'd STILL need a new CM to replace Pogba...it's Illogical.
Would be great news if PSG do put a reasonable bid in for him, we should take the money and run.
Hardly miles off, just finished 2nd in the League, comfortably and got to the final of the Europa League. Not exactly minnows.
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.....And there we have it an ol' CAF faithful. One bit of bad news from 1 news aggregator which is sourcing a source that isn't exactly the most heard of and it's believed to be gospel!
Replace the word Pogba with Mbappe and it's United signing him and it's immediately thrown out as bullshit or PR goodness from Man United. The other way round though and it's gospel and it's believed!
Woopee!
Even if Pogba's staying we still actively seeking a midfielder, so it shouldn't be any inner conflict in signing CM and winner type player like Grealish who's by the way different attacker to Martial and Rashford.
I still don't entirely trust Donny or Martial, so I don't think getting Jack would be that illogical and it would definitely not damage us in any way. It would give us even more options if Rashford gonna have further complications or Cavani get injured again.
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make mate. I think it’s a logical outcome that Pogba will leave. He has wanted out for a while and he hasn’t signed a new contract — everything points to him leaving. I’d be pleasantly surprised if he stayed.
It's common sense. A player who has made no secret for years of probably wanting out who has 1 year left on his contract with no sign that he'll want to extend, getting up there in age and with his last chance at a big transfer somewhere to compete for the biggest trophies in the last parts of his prime... Not to mention that United have pretty actively bought players the past couple of years with an eye on replacing Pogba and not building around Pogba.
If he resigns great, if he goes then we move on. Not the end of the world either way
Perhaps, but you're stretching if you think we can afford to sign Sancho, a new CM to replace Pogba, Grealish and the new CB we also need.
I also don't think Rashford and Martial will want to be bit part players. Rashford doesn't deserve to be, and I wouldn't want to see him go. Doubt anyone could afford him anyway. Sure we could flog Martial, but then we'd probably need another ST too.
Maybe no one is wrong. No doubt Bruno performed much better than Pogba last season. Off course I choose Bruno over Pogba today.
Who is the best player (top-level) is another discussion. My opinion is that Pogba’s top-level is a knot higher than Bruno’s. A consistent Pogba (on his top-level) is touching the debate “top 5 midfielders in the world”.
At the same time a agree we’ve already tried and waited too long on Pogba’s take off”. So it’s probably time for him to move on and try to fulfil his potential somewhere else.
Pogba on his top level is like once a season and it's usually for France not us.
Chances are Cavani won't be here after his current contract, Martial after signing Sancho already look like potential candidate for the bench, Rashford will have a long break from football and in terms of supposed title race, there is no strict barriers in having a deep and in the same time quality setup. There's definitely no stretching for City in that regard as them being present champions.
We do have to prioritise the tactically aware CM/DM so we'll of course need for funds for that too. Think Pogba's PSG deal might speed up the process for many things to happen this summer.
Pretty much this for me too.
Think he's a fantastic player and if he goes then I don't really have any ill will towards him. It hasn't worked out on the whole and I'd blame the club for that just as much as I would him. We do look a lot better now than when he first arrived but a footballer's career is a short one and if he wants to duck out and get that proper success which has eluded him here, then that's fair enough. We're actually pretty well covered for any eventuality here. If he goes we have Mejbri coming through, we have Donny here already, and Sancho coming in who will replace his creativity from out wide, and not to mention Bruno doing what he does centrally. And any sale we can get from him can be put into finally getting a proper DM/CM.
Alternatively if he stays, then happy days too, as we have an amazing player at our disposal.
It's been the biggest circus we've ever had at the club, and that has put Real Madrid off buying him.
Pogba has had a decent season, you wonder if he's only decided to go up a level this season to put himself in the shop window with only 1 year left on the contract.
Ole has done a brilliant job of making him feel wanted again.
Pogba will be a good player to have next season if PSG decide against buying him, but in terms of getting rid of a circus that has brought phenomenal baggage to the club, it would be best for everyone if PSG cough up the money this summer.
Pogba has had a decent season, you wonder if he's only decided to go up a level this season to put himself in the shop window with only 1 year left on the contract.
Ole has done a brilliant job of making him feel wanted again.
Pogba will be a good player to have next season if PSG decide against buying him, but in terms of getting rid of a circus that has brought phenomenal baggage to the club, it would be best for everyone if PSG cough up the money this summer.
I would 100% agree the season the good of Pogba has outweighed the bad, while his agent may have thrown his toys out of the pram when he was benched at the start of the year, Pogba got on with it. He accepted basically playing second fiddle for Fernandes, and has a really solid season playing as a left-sided attacker.
The problem comes down to what his contract demands are going to be, if he will be happy with a small raise and say a 4-year deal then year 100% sign him up. But if his demands are for him to become United's highest earner with a contract anywhere in the region of the Sanchez deal, then that's when the bad starts to outweigh the good. You can't make a player who has been predominantly inconsistent since he arrived, who has had attitude problems at times, who at 28 there is still a question over where he fits into a team and was not even in the first 11 for the 1st few months of the season the highest-paid player at the club. That would be all kinds of disruptive both in terms of current player's demands and future player's demands. We have seen how disruptive mega contracts like that can be (See Sanchez, Ozil, Bale, Rooney to name a few) and they should only be handed out to players who have an integral place in the team and who have earned it. Not to players who have been inconsistent for years and who is still a struggle to fit into the starting 11.
But unlike you I 100% see him signing a new deal, where is going to go? football is broke, all the money premier league clubs spend this summer will be as added debt and the top clubs around Europe have already borrowed all they can. There is only PSG as any kind of viable option for him and if they don't come in for him he will 100% be here next season. Can you really see us letting him go for free? the club renowned for overpaying on contracts, renowned for extending anyone's contract just so they don't leave for free. If it looks like there is even a chance he may leave for free we will write him a blank check because that the way this club works.
Quickly sell now if they're planning to pay well. Either that or watch him leave on free next season. This guy doesn't give any feeling that he wants to extend his contract. It's now or we'll become the laughing stock of the world next season : Let him leave on free, brought him back for 89m then let him leave on free again.
I personally think that grealish would be brilliant in a paolo futre type role. Getting the ball from midfield and having the space to run forward
him from LCM and Bruno RCM with a real ball winner behind
but that’s just theory. I think he’s moved out of our summer price range now
This will happen unfortunately.
Even if I tried I couldn't make up a series of bigger feck ups at this club in recent years.
Pogba, Sanchez, new contracts to Jones, Pereira etc. It's as if we're sabotaged to be financially destroyed.
I'm unconvinced by him. There's clearly a world class player in there somewhere, but how much do his performances rely on attitude? We saw him play some of the best football of his life during France's World Cup campaign in 2018. Along with Mbappe he was talismanic for them, he looked like complete midfielder - a dream signing for any elite club. But for United he's hit or miss, he just doesn't seem to care. His performances aren't lazy but they're uninspired. There's an argument to be made that he isn't surrounded by the level of quality that he is with France, but I don't really buy into that because there have been odd times we've had good performances out of him. It's all very well extending his contract for another 3 years, but if we're not getting 'the full Pogba' - then what's the point?
We should have benched him last year and basically endanger his chances of playing at the Euro’s such that he would have either left or forced to sign an extension. I am not fundamentally against some players running out their contracts if they are being chronically under compensated and not being allowed to move. However, he is paid extremely well and his performances have been “mixed” so have very little sympathy for him especially given he is going to do it twice to us
Any maybe United is responding to that pressure with the interest in Goretzka.
Also, international football suits him better - not much intensive pressing, which takes away his biggest vulnerabilities.
Also, international football suits him better - not much intensive pressing, which takes away his biggest vulnerabilities.
This.
Interesting point. He seemed to do well in Serie A though, would you say he's better suited to another league?
The club simply cannot let that happen. Even if we have to take a significant hit, we have to sell for something rather than a free.
I think the problem is as another poster said, he does not get the space and time in the PL as he does for France.
This would be both hilarious and depressing.God you sound like your breaking up. What are you hoping for? More of McFred and less of what we’ve seen from Paul in this Euros?
No thanks. We just need to keep our best players, keep building and stop expecting single players to be a one man midfield.
I can’t believe people are desperate to get rid of probably our best player without trying to improve the players in the position beside him. It baffles me really.
It’s like saying, Maguire is shite becuase he’s slow, let’s not bother trying to sign somebody to partner him, let’s just sell Maguire and try to sign somebody who will be good enough to fill two positions.
Not sure what would be hilarious about us losing him again in a free unless it’s viewed from oppo fans perspective.
I’m sick of the mediocrity of the past 7 years, I’ve no inclination to find losing our best players for free funny.
Not a dig just pointing out the obvious that it will be nothing but a bad thing for us in more ways than one.
#PogTransfer
Getting Camavinga for Pogba is not the worst deal ever. Feel like Camavinga would fit United's setup more. Pogba has been playing on the left wing anyway since he came back from injury.
I won't miss the media circus if he does go. He certainly wasn't a flop like Veron but it does feel like five wasted years in some ways, for both the player and the club; two trophies, one very generous PFA team of the year inclusion, some good matches here and there.
The 3-2 win at City will be my favourite memory of him here
The 3-2 win at City will be my favourite memory of him here
We NEED a good replacement for him, someone ready now to take one off Scott's or Fred's spot. Hope we pull a good deal though, will be missed by many.
at least its something to throw at the owners and board. Could have sold him 2 years ago for 100m
Yeah, we need to replace Pogba with a creative midfielder with proven experience of the physicality of the premier league.
I'd be up for getting Phillips off Leeds. The Yorkshire Pirlo.
*Runs away*
I love Pogba. He is an amazing player, and his swagger reminds of some people I grew up with. It hasn't worked out as we imagined. His circle consistently make it clear he wants to go, and we have until the winter before he can sign a precontract and leave for free. I rather move on, let some other club deal with it, and hope they can recoup some funds for another midfielder.
Very good point
It's not just about individual quality but about how to fit them in XI and get the best out of them. Clearly, we are unable to fit Pogba into our XI and we always have debate how to fit him in. The fact that Pogba has been playing in various roles at United sums it up how difficult to fit him into our current players and system. There are players out there that we can sign as replacement provide more effective positive outcome for our team than Pogba despite of Pogba being much better quality than those players.
Just to remind you when we lost world class striker RVN in 2006 without replacing him, we looked so much better as we managed to get the best out of Ronaldo who doesn't seem compliment with RVN's style. Pogba could be another similar case. May be what we need is player that offer something else than what Pogba offers.
Just to remind you when we lost world class striker RVN in 2006 without replacing him, we looked so much better as we managed to get the best out of Ronaldo who doesn't seem compliment with RVN's style. Pogba could be another similar case. May be what we need is player that offer something else than what Pogba offers.