You're being hysterical. We are talking about drunken students, everytime an inappropriate, tasteless song is sung in a club you want the whole club to be shut down?
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You're being hysterical. We are talking about drunken students, everytime an inappropriate, tasteless song is sung in a club you want the whole club to be shut down?
Surely the equivalent would be shutting Chelsea and Liverpool down because of the actions of some of their players?
The French are at it again, the head of the French Central Bank said today that we should have our credit rating downgraded before they do.
Someone should tell him we haven't surrendered our monetary policy and money supply.
Someone should tell him we haven't surrendered our monetary policy and money supply.
Nice allusion to surrender monkeys there too.
I hate the French though, good on yer.
I hate the French though, good on yer.
I hadn't noticed though that is the central point - we can depreciate and flood the economy with Sterling, and the Bank of England can bail us out - France has none of that open to them. Not to mention we are well ahead of the curve with regard to the government cutting spending.
They can't do it unilaterally no, they would have to do it by agreement with their partners. That makes it harder, and I agree that's a disadvantage and it's not where I would want to be, but that's not the same as being impossible.
As for the cutting spending, you have an amazing need to post exactly the same point day after day after day. It might work, or it might depress growth and thus tax revenues so much as to be counterproductive. I don't know. You don't know. Why not give it a rest until you have something new to say?
Though it is somewhat relevant to proceedings - especially to this discussion point, the UK is much further along the course to cutting spending than most of Europe is, including the French.
Yesterday the head of the French Central Bank, today the French Finance Minister is at it.
That's news to me, probably went to 3 of the 8 meetings this term and the only thing I can back up from that article is that a lot of port is drunk, and that rather than the policy is why a lot of people (such as myself) go. I've found the society quite amusing and definitely harmless myself.
You say that like it would be a bad thing.
Why would it even be considered news that most young Tories are despicably bigoted cnuts interested only in maintaining the staus quo where people that mummy and daddy would approve of retain the power and money? Plus the wannabe Tories from the North and/or with Comprehensive school educations trying to get their snout in the trough only to discover young Tories hate them no matter how much they suck up to them.
'To have watched the soul of my people fingered by the callous enlivens the bitter ooze from my grudge'.
I normally shy away from sensationalist statements, but I've had some recent experiences with people that strongly believe in the above and I really do find it abhorrent. It's often from people that literally don't have the capacity to sympathise with someone in a worse situation than them, because they can't imagine (or don't want to) a life outside of their circle, and the idea of privilege and birth rights is given a lot of importance as a way of justifying this.
My mum's husband the other day was giving us all some terrible chat about how he is a 'Grade A' person in terms of class, and the reason Downton Abbey has been successful is because people of a 'lower class' like to aspire to be a 'Grade A' like the characters in Downton. The fact that no one in this country actually lives the life of an ITV costume drama character was clearly irrelevant...
I do - but then, it's still 1916 here in Wales.
More seriously, perhaps some people miss the point of such 'aspiration' - it's not so much aspiring to be rich and 'well-bred', more about the longing for a more graceful life. Even working-class zeroes like me yearn for that.
What drivel. As far as I'm concerned there's a huge amount of prejudice directed at people who dare to have a centre-right political stance. This simplistic notion that all Conservative voters are somehow less compassionate than all the lovely people on the left makes my blood boil. It's just a case of how you think people can permanently improve their lives. I happen to think that raising taxes and increasing public spending isn't always the most effective way to sustainably increase GDP per capita and average living standards.
That's my view, I don't need to spend my time caricaturing your political views or making unfounded assumptions.
Just to make my own views clear, I don't have so much of an issue with this approach. Some friends of mine who are Conservative I don't have an issue with, because they've looked at the facts and, whilst they might have reached a different conclusion to me, it is at least a conclusion based on evidence and logical reasoning. The rest is just difference of opinions.
What I have a real issue with is those who just vote Conservative because of the 'people like us' reasoning or the ideas I mentioned above, about keeping things in line with birth rights and privilege. I don't like the left wing alternative to that either, the idea that anyone not working class is grasping and elitist and ought to have everything taken away from them even if they've earned it through work, but I think that side of things tends to be more pub talk rather than from people in potential positions of power.
You cnuts are not interested in that as you've proved over the centuries, what you're interested in is keeping your snouts in the trough.
You have such a simplistic view of the world.
Simple and brutally direct, not festooned with self-serving bullshit like yours, to wit: 'It's just a case of how you think people can permanently improve their lives'.
As has been shown many times before, Peterstorey and Wibble are the most prejudiced people here.
Is it possible to talk about pots and kettles without being racist?
This part of your sentence is 100% correct
And the left accuses the right of casting stereotypes.
Only some
I wonder how you would explain my views on UK and Australian Labor if I'm so biased. I actually bet I'm one of the few truly floating voters on this site. I've voted Labour and I voted for Maggie once and in my current state of despair at all political parties I'd be tempted to vote for the Greens if they weren't such a useless bunch of twats.
Wibbs is prejudice against bigots.
I wonder if Baby Cameron thinks that the The McGuire 7 and the Guilford 4 were actually guilty? Many Tories I know still believe this. Or maybe believe that innocent until proven Irish is a good thing in general. Hard to tell with the Daily Heil generation.
I've also found that Tories are more anti-gay than Catholics and Anglicans which surprised me.
I've also found that Tories are more anti-gay than Catholics and Anglicans which surprised me.
Stop messing with my mind maaaaaaaaan
Yes. You just can't say black. The correct term is pigment enhanced.
I'd sooner draw a penis on the voting ballot than vote for the shower of shite we've got
Nowt wrong with voting Green. I voted Green because I can't stand any of the others. Reckon Green could get a hell of a lot more seats if all the people I've come across who've said they 'would' have voted Green if it hadn't been a wasted vote had actually voted for them. I know loads of people who've said that.
If you vote green, not only are you throwing the vote, you also face the prospect of sending the economy into even more of a tail spin via the simple virtue of the fact the technologies needed to sustain a 'green' environment are virtually non-existent, hyper-expensive or completely untried on the scale needed to perpetuate a developed western economy.
Yeah but we kind of need them to save the planet from utter destruction.
The planet will still be there. So will humanity. It will just be the poor people in other countries that die, and they don't get to vote in the General Election so no-one will listen to them.
Fossil fuels are unsustainable y'know. Can't use them forever.
Well, not forever, but coal and dirty oil reserves could last centuries. Cost is a different matter to availability of course.
Plus nuclear power is pretty much endless.
'Green' energies are a long way off yet.
Plus nuclear power is pretty much endless.
'Green' energies are a long way off yet.
Yeah but there's the whole nasty business of fossil fuels causing global warming, which will most affect those poor people you mentioned.
Oh no wait... burning fossil fuels isn't what's causing global warming is it? It's 'just happening' apparently. Or so the Americans who burn the most of it tell us anyway.
Oh no wait... burning fossil fuels isn't what's causing global warming is it? It's 'just happening' apparently. Or so the Americans who burn the most of it tell us anyway.