Politics at Westminster | BREAKING: UKIP

Silva said:
2/3 of schools have already become academies haven't they? This has been inevitable for a while. The school I went to became an Academy while I was there and went from being a horrible shithole to being a well-built chav estate. That said, my year was the last one where less than half the pupils got at least 5 A-C's, so there was some improvement. People who've got good local schools should be feeling pissed off about it though.
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My old school became an academy too and is now miles better than when I attended, it even made the top 100 in the country. Not sure how it will all play out TBH.
 
Black eye for George. And this Peston guy is very good. Breaks a lot of stories.
 
Ubik said:
Think we can say bye to Osborne's PM chances as well. Though that would actually be to the Tories' benefit.
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Boris is probably their best replacement electorally.

Osborne is better than the rest of the other candidates though?
 
Untied said:
Boris is probably their best replacement electorally.

Osborne is better than the rest of the other candidates though?
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Osborne's claim rested on being a continuation of Cameron (and unlike the Blair-Brown handover, they actually like each other) and being trusted on the economy. Latter of those is now in the shitter and discontent will be so widespread in Toryland after the referendum that the former probably won't be much help either. Add in the fact he has the personality of flatulence and you have to think there's someone else that hasn't been seriously considered yet that would be better.

And I still don't think Boris is the electoral bonus many seem to believe he is.
 
Ubik said:
Osborne's claim rested on being a continuation of Cameron (and unlike the Blair-Brown handover, they actually like each other) and being trusted on the economy. Latter of those is now in the shitter and discontent will be so widespread in Toryland after the referendum that the former probably won't be much help either. Add in the fact he has the personality of flatulence and you have to think there's someone else that hasn't been seriously considered yet that would be better.

And I still don't think Boris is the electoral bonus many seem to believe he is.
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I probably can't look past my personal dislike of Javid, May and Morgan who are probably the next candidates (let's be honest, I'm not the person to ask wrt the next Conservative leader)

And I've moaned at Corbyn for pulling his punches. The budget response was a much better effort and this is good too:

 
Classical Mechanic said:
My old school became an academy too and is now miles better than when I attended, it even made the top 100 in the country. Not sure how it will all play out TBH.
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Wss this under Labour or Tories? The old labour academies process took failing schools and shoved lots of public and private money at them to make them better. The new process just changes who the schools answer to, no substantial increase in funding
 
Cameron letter: full text
Dear Iain,

Thank you for your letter this evening.

We are all very proud of the welfare reforms which this government has delivered over the last six years, and in which you have played an important part.

As a government, we have done a huge amount to get people into work, reduce unemployment and promote social justice. There are now more people in work than ever before in our country’s history, with 2.4 million more jobs created since 2010.

I regret that you have chosen to step down from the government at this moment. Together we designed the personal independence payment to support the most vulnerable and to give disabled people more independence.

We all agreed that the increased resources being spent on disabled people should be properly managed and focused on those who need it most.

That is why we collectively agreed – you, No 10 and the Treasury – proposals which you and your Department then announced a week ago. Today we agreed not to proceed with the policies in their current form and instead to work together to get these policies right over the coming months.

In the light of this, I am puzzled and disappointed that you have chosen to resign.

You leave the government with my thanks and best wishes. While we are on different sides in the vital debate about the future of Britain’s relations with Europe, the government will, of course, continue with its policy of welfare reform, matched by our commitment to social justice, to improving the life chances of the most disadvantaged people in our country, and to ensuring that those who most need help and protection continue to receive it.

Yours, David
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(What else could he write after finding Osborne in floods of tears.)

He pretends it's all being done to benefit the sick and the disabled and actually thinks the electorate will believe him.

One positive spin to far David lad. No-one believes you.
 
Red Defence said:
(What else could he write after finding Osborne in floods of tears.)

He pretends it's all being done to benefit the sick and the disabled and actually thinks the electorate will believe him.

One positive spin to far David lad. No-one believes you.
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I dunno. There's no way IDS did not have a hand in those proposed cuts. He then bailed after they were announced to uproar to cause maximum damage. Cam is being ensuring blame is shared, which is fair enough.
 
This is almost as good as Moyes' departure.
 
feck IDS, feck the tories, they are all cut from the same shit stained cloth. They are not fit to run this fkn country
 
Reading all of IDS' comments, the allusion to a clash on economic policy could be an issue we see raise its head again. There can't but be some resentment among Cabinet colleagues over the repeated call for departmental cuts, particularly if MPs are beginning to question their necessity and where they are being targeted.

If Brexit also happens to be a factor, Osborne is a fool for piling crap on a department headed by Eurosceptics.
 
For a supposedly shrewd politician Osborne has really messed this one up.

He couldn't have picked a worse subject to fight on in disability, I mean who really thinks we should take money from disabled people.

He couldn't have picked a worse context than to make those savings in a budget which gave money back to the rich.

He couldn't have picked a worse person( I could just stop right here ) to give momentum to than IDS with the EU referendum coming.

Given his missed targets and the contradictions inherent in his choices bringing legitimate questions about competence as well, it turns out to be more of a political suicide note than a budget.
 
Interesting to see Labour's response, they don't want to give IDS too much credit either.
 
Damien said:
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I'm no fan of the Tories or IDS, but in the interests of accuracy that was the moment the government announced an unexpectedly large rise in the minimum wage, something he had argued strongly for. Quite a stunning announcement at the time, no one saw it coming.

His overall contribution to welfare is another matter of course.
 
Enjoying Eurosceptic Tories pretending they've suddenly grown a soul so that they can stick the boot in to the party leadership pre referendum. Screwing over the poor was never such a terrible weight on their mind in the last 6 years.
 
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Ah I see that Iain Duncan massive prick Smith has finally fecked off. cnut.
 
lynchie said:
Enjoying Eurosceptic Tories pretending they've suddenly grown a soul so that they can stick the boot in to the party leadership pre referendum. Screwing over the poor was never such a terrible weight on their mind in the last 6 years.
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This. Find it insulting to be honest. Think people are fools.
 
According to John Pienaar,, this is the culmination of tensions that have been building for some time. If it helps the Brexit campaign then all to the good, however i suspect that Osborne and his pronouncements have been grating on ministerial colleagues for some while.


Adisa said:
This. Find it insulting to be honest. Think people are fools.
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The greatest deception of all is that of Eueophile Labour MPs who have the audacity to tell the poor that they have their back.
 
Crabs will be worse than IBS. Trust me.
 
Red Defence said:
(What else could he write after finding Osborne in floods of tears.)

He pretends it's all being done to benefit the sick and the disabled and actually thinks the electorate will believe him.

One positive spin to far David lad. No-one believes you.
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I felt physically ill reading that letter.
 
Osborne's chances of becoming the next PM might just have been utterly fecked, and it's glorious.:lol:

Hopefully this is just the start. One or two more resignations and we'll be on the verge of a meltdown.
 
Cheesy said:
Osborne's chances of becoming the next PM might just have been utterly fecked, and it's glorious.:lol:

Hopefully this is just the start. One or two more resignations and we'll be on the verge of a meltdown.
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All that will happen is that Boris will be pm and he will make ids chancellor
Then ids will make even more cuts than were ever proposed because frankly if he was clever he would be an evil genius... As it is he is just a nasty incompetent bloke in a suit
 
sun_tzu said:
All that will happen is that Boris will be pm and he will make ids chancellor
Then ids will make even more cuts than were ever proposed because frankly if he was clever he would be an evil genius... As it is he is just a nasty incompetent bloke in a suit
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Unfortunately, there's a good chance that'll be the case. Still though, I'm not sure Osborne will back down lightly, and a lot of infighting could hopefully damage the Tories. Could be a decent chance for Labour to capitalise, as latest polls show.
 
Polls mean sod all these days.
 
Interesting piece from the Tel showing jobs growth is booming in the regions, under the Tories.

The image of a prosperous South, and a North and West that are falling behind, is increasingly a throwback to three decades ago. There is very little evidence for it in the today’s statistics.

Take a look at the latest numbers on the regional jobs market, published this week by the Office for National Statistics. The most rapid rate of job creation right now is in the North East, and in Wales. Wales has an employment ratio of 71pc, just a fraction lower than supposed hyper-rich London, where it is actually falling. The North East is a whisker behind that, but growing faster than anywhere else – in the latest period alone it added two percentage points to its employment ratio. The North West now has an employment ratio of 73pc, and the East has overtaken the South-East, with a ratio of 78pc.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/03/18/labour-is-losing-out-in-its-own-heartlands/
 
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