[tenpoless]

I'm actually crying... For 30 minutes I saw my team come back

You were crying for 30 mins?

 

[Harry190]

Never expected it. But this is what happens when you put 6 guys in the opposition box and send a cross in. Be courageous, be daring.

 

[nainaisson]

Stadium fans voiced huge support for Mourinho, even at 2-0 down, that cant be ignored either by the board or on here.

It's heartening to know the local fanbase is more rational and respectful than the online/international fanbase, the vast majority of whom seem to be rabidly and obnoxiously anti-Mourinho. I wish I could figure out why there's such a difference between the two groups of fans.

 

[tenpoless]

Lets play with 3 CB and just attack the shit out of the opposition then. Also I love how the supporters inside OT went mental when Sanchez scored. They didn't stop singing. Shows you if the actual support isn't as bad as what online forums suggest.

 

[Flanders Devil]

Lets play with 3 CB and just attack the shit out of the opposition then. Also I love how the supporters inside OT went mental when Sanchez scored. They didn't stop singing. Shows you if the actual support isn't as bad as what online forums suggest.

I think the truth is really somewhere in the middle and needing to have a balanced opinion.

I mean any fan who didn’t feel 110% joy and elation at the end when Alexis scores really should find something else to do for their own sake. Weather you want Mourinho in/out, think Alexis is/isn’t upto it or whatever, I’d argue, as a fan, you can’t not feel happy for the team in that moment. Nor be unhappy about winning 3-2 after being down 2-0.

Now there’s always going to be different attitudes for different fans (eg I’ll support which ever manager 100% v I want a manager with xyz style), that’s the beauty of sport... and the purpose of a forum.

 

[r0663664]

I think we should play 3CB. Move Pogba as one of the CB so he can spray those long pass and move into space in midfield. Martial was good last night, not good but if he can continue from last night it is a start. Last night 2nd half performance should be something week in and week out, not when we are down and out.

 

[Nikelesh Reddy]

I'm curious how Smalling was remotely at fault for either goal? Both goals he took care of his man and it was the player coming between Young and Bailly that scored.

My bad...I just had a look at the replay,I thought that Smalling was out of position for the 2nd goal but it looks like he was just following his man.Bailly,Young and Matic were culpable for the goals...

 

[Flanders Devil]

I think we should play 3CB. Move Pogba as one of the CB so he can spray those long pass and move into space in midfield. Martial was good last night, not good but if he can continue from last night it is a start. Last night 2nd half performance should be something week in and week out, not when we are down and out.

I really hope we don’t do this...

I don’t really know where to start in terms of providing an insightful response as to why...

But it’s not really where I think we should be playing our best outfield player, arguable that spraying long balls from CB is how we should be playing or who’s going to add the touches to unlock defences eg for martial’s goal or Fred’s goal

 

[RedCurry]

This game was a roller coaster ride for so many reasons apart from the result itself.

Rashford miss felt like it would be costly. At half time, as a United fan, I still believe no matter what. Then I saw Fellaini start the second half and wasn’t sure who went off and feared the worst that it would have been either for Pogba or Martial. Then the United onslaught started and Mata was always going to put that in, its his favorite spot to take free kicks from. From that point on, I expected a win rather than hoped. Martial and Pogba are my favorite outfield players and they were immense. When Sanchez came on, I just felt that he was going to score today and he did.

As a United fan, you can surely pause all the negative feelings and enjoy this result. These are the type of results you are a football fan for.

 

[Foxbatt]

My bad...I just had a look at the replay,I thought that Smalling was out of position for the 2nd goal but it looks like he was just following his man.Bailly,Young and Matic were culpable for the goals...

I don't know. According to the big Dane, Smalling and Bailly and Young should have dropped off for the first as soon as Matic missed it.
Then for the second he should not have been dragged to the side too. I thought it was odd he said that but he was adamant.
Yes Bailly and Young made the worst mistakes.

 

[tombombadil]

A good comeback win. Most importantly is to give the players back some belief. Hopefully the belief is still there for the next game.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

Great comeback in the last twenty minutes, but Newcastle should have killed us off long before that; indeed, it should have been over before half time. This is Newcastle at Old Trafford. I don't know what's going on, nor what will happen next. We are such a mess right now.

 

[Pyro19]

The support inside the stadium was for United and in a reaction for the late win.

I love how the Jose brigade is somehow trying to spin it into a moral victory for Jose and his actions.

Get this Man out of my club ASAP.

 

[Treble]

Apart from the last 20-30 min that was a shocking performance -the worst so far. To concede 8 shots on target against this Newcastle side at home is absolutely inacceptable. The team looked depressed and could not defend at all. The last 20 min were great though. You coiuld see that the players did not want to sack Jose. Let's see the continuation vs Chelsea. It will be tough there. We need players who can press well and counter attack quickly. No McTominay, especially at CB.

 

[tombombadil]

The support inside the stadium was for United and in a reaction for the late win.

I love how the Jose brigade is somehow trying to spin it into a moral victory for Jose and his actions.

Get this Man out of my club ASAP.

They were singing his name but that doesn't suit your narrative, does it?

 

[MadDogg]

I think there is definitely a connection there but Martial did not do any tracking back when we needed him to. There was a point where Jose was on his knees on the touchline because their full back had broke down the wing again and Shaw was under all kinds of pressure. Think they got a cross in before Martial realised he should be back there doing something about it.

To be fair to Martial, I think that was exhaustion (or possibly a small knock) rather than laziness. Moments before he'd struggled to pick himself up after our last attacking move died.

Of course that's a problem in it's own right. But he hasn't got to play the full 90 minutes much for the last 9 months, so hopefully he has cemented that role and his fitness will improve.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

Apart from the last 20-30 min that was a shocking performance -the worst so far. To concede 8 shots on target against this Newcastle side at home is absolutely inacceptable. The team looked depressed and could not defend at all. The last 20 min were great though. You coiuld see that the players did not want to sack Jose. Let's see the continuation vs Chelsea. It will be tough there. We need players who can press well and counter attack quickly. No McTominay, especially at CB.

Newcastle should have had a penalty at 2-0, which would have been game over. Yes, the last twenty minutes were great: it was like the United of old, but we all know it won't continue into the coming games; not unless we have a new manager. The club is toxic; one great comeback can't change that.

 

[LoneStar]

I think most of them are
• Pool supporters
• Have never been to a match and twiddle football is their virtual reality buzz
• attention seeking wums

It's so easy to criticise sitting behind a computer. I bet half of these 'hard guys' would be begging for Jose's autograph if they met him in person.

I don't want Jose to continue, atleast not after this season. But if you are apathetic after such a comeback, where the players gave it their all at the end, and the manager was so full of emotions, I don't know how you can't take a step back and not enjoy the moment.

 

[The Purley King]

It's so easy to criticise sitting behind a computer. I bet half of these 'hard guys' would be begging for Jose's autograph if they met him in person.

I don't want Jose to continue, atleast not after this season. But if you are apathetic after such a comeback, where the players gave it their all at the end, and the manager was so full of emotions, I don't know how you can't take a step back and not enjoy the moment.

I think people can enjoy it but 20 minutes of all out attack against a shit team who are sitting back, protecting a lead and inviting pressure does not excuse a) the first 60 minutes horror show b) the set up and subs designed to make a point to ed, not to win the game and c) the last 18 months of crap.

I’m sorry but we won today despite Jose not because of him. Doesn’t mean I wasn’t bouncing around my front room when Sanchez scored.

 

[LoneStar]

I think people can enjoy it but 20 minutes of all out attack against a shit team who are sitting back, protecting a lead and inviting pressure does not excuse a) the first 60 minutes horror show b) the set up and subs designed to make a point to ed, not to win the game and c) the last 18 months of crap.

I’m sorry but we won today despite Jose not because of him. Doesn’t mean I wasn’t bouncing around my front room when Sanchez scored.

I get what you are saying, Jose needs to go at some point.

But a lot of people in here wanted to lose, and were probably heartbroken when Sanchez scored the winner. These are simply not fans of the club, they just hate Jose.

Also, the reason I want Jose to continue for a while is because I don't want us to rush in for another manager. We really need to think about our next appointment. I really don't think Zidane is the ideal manager for us now.

 

[bosnian_red]

I get what you are saying, Jose needs to go at some point.

But a lot of people in here wanted to lose, and were probably heartbroken when Sanchez scored the winner. These are simply not fans of the club, they just hate Jose.

Also, the reason I want Jose to continue for a while is because I don't want us to rush in for another manager. We really need to think about our next appointment. I really don't think Zidane is the ideal manager for us now.

Zidane might not be it, but Jose definitely isnt it. Use a caretaker til we get the right appointment. Mourinho is just a negative a this point.

 

[BigRon1985]

Those players were nowhere near the worst in the first half. Why did we look so bad in the first half and why did we look so much better in the last 25 minutes.
You can't have it both ways either.


Because it's the same every week. We are always reactive and not proactive until something goes wrong.

Maybe we should give each team we play a 2 goal head start to get us fired up?

 

[The Purley King]

Zidane might not be it, but Jose definitely isnt it. Use a caretaker til we get the right appointment. Mourinho is just a negative a this point.

Agree 100%.
Jose should have been sacked at the start of this week, if not after Seville game.
Now is the time to do it though.
Carrick and mckenna can handle things for a month or two whilst we work out who to get in next and hopefully get a dof in asap.
If anyone thinks a performance like that isn’t going to get severely punished by a half decent side they are deluding themselves.

 

[minoo-utd]

Why played Mc tominay all the first half as a fecking C.B while he is hardly even a footballer? I reckon he wanted to send another clear message to the board. Then feck off Jose, he could sacrfice the result for the sake of his own view! I don't get it.

 

[crossy1686]

The support inside the stadium was for United and in a reaction for the late win.

I love how the Jose brigade is somehow trying to spin it into a moral victory for Jose and his actions.

Get this Man out of my club ASAP.

Yeah, no one's doing that so wind your neck in. Also, who's the Jose brigade? People who enjoyed the win and want more of that? Does the Jose brigade exclude top Reds like yourself who are wise enough to see through the papering of the cracks and it doesn't matter how we play or the results we get anymore, you just him gone at all costs? It's sad that you've got to come here and try and convince internet strangers to value your opinion by trying to create an us and them mentality.

 

[Bestietom]

The real answer is, he let the players loose in the second half. I've seen old men on zimmer frames move faster than us, in the first half.

 

[Red_Ramirez]

I'm happy with the desire and effort displayed in the 2nd half. Showed character

A good win mentality for the players

A bad win for the anti-Mourinho brigade.. Unlucky lads

 

[Bestietom]

I'm happy with the desire and effort displayed in the 2nd half. Showed character

A good win mentality for the players

A bad win for the anti-Mourinho brigade.. Unlucky lads

But can they play like they did in second half every game. We will see.

 

[BrianMcClair'sBarnet]

Get in!

Now leave.

 

[Bestietom]

Great second half, and 3 points earned. But hand on heart, did anyone feel like staying in the bar at half time. It was Boring, Boring, Football by us, in first half.

 

[wolvored]

It's heartening to know the local fanbase is more rational and respectful than the online/international fanbase, the vast majority of whom seem to be rabidly and obnoxiously anti-Mourinho. I wish I could figure out why there's such a difference between the two groups of fans.

I think its the sheep factor at matches. When you are surrounded by singing fans if say a couple start singing a particular song it soon breaks out that you all or most join in. Its usually the younger fans the teen to thirty year olds that start it as well. Its a lot easier and less controversial to sing praise about your own side/player/manager than it is abuse as well.

 

[wolvored]

It was good to see the attacking side as Mourinho had nothing to lose second half. If we had have lost I think he would be gone. The thing is you cant play like that against City Chelsea or Juve as they will hit us on the break and the one or two man defence would get breached so many times. It wouldnt surprise me to see him park the bus in those 4 matches and revert to what he is most comfortable with.

 

[Barca84]

It's heartening to know the local fanbase is more rational and respectful than the online/international fanbase, the vast majority of whom seem to be rabidly and obnoxiously anti-Mourinho. I wish I could figure out why there's such a difference between the two groups of fans.

As with so many things people feel they have license to behave completely differently online than they do in the physical world.

Plus generally people go to the match with the intention to encourage and support the club rather than have a moan. It's easier to just stay away. And it's a lot easier to start a "Mourinho Out" thread on the internet than to unfurl a banner or start a chant saying similar.

 

[MacabbiUnited]

What hypocrisy. When Pogba martial underperform it's coz Jose abused them trained them to suck, but when they play good, 0 credits.
You can't have it both ways.

The fact to matter is, when they play his tactics, they suck. When they play like they have nothing to lose, they producevwhat we saw last night

 

[BigRon1985]

Zidane might not be it, but Jose definitely isnt it. Use a caretaker til we get the right appointment. Mourinho is just a negative a this point.

Absolutely need a caretaker manager before we make a decision! Can’t rush the appointment bearing in mind the last 3 disasters.

 

[mitchmouse]

The result shouldn't hide the fact that for 45 minutes we were dominated by one of the poorest sides in the PL. That said, if we learn from the two halves of the game, it will have been worth it: we are shite at sitting back and waiting for the opposition to make a mistake; we are at our best playing with pace, passing the ball around quickly and being adventurous. For me, and i know a lot of people will disagree many players could do worse that see Fellaini's passion and desire and copy it. I have to laugh at the number of people who made Martial their MoM. He was truly awful for 70-75 minutes, continually giving the ball away or holding on to it to long. When he passed quickly, he was much better. And I wonder how well we would do if Pogba played that sort of old-fashioned Italian libero role more often. What pleased me too was seeing Jose's passion, he really was kicking every ball and was right to be furious at times. The defending in the first half was schoolboyish but to me it wasn't bailly who was at fault by Matic, Young and Smalling. I hope we have learnt lessons... I doubt we have. I still think we will probably sack Jose in the summer, I'm not sure that in itself is the answer. Some o the players are simply not good enough. I know Jose has bought them but don't tel me SAF didn't make duff buys and don't tell me Pep and Klopp haven't done so too. Their boards backed them to the hilt in the pat two years and again this summer; ours did not

 

[Scott Lewington]

Anyone remember City last year?

 

[red_john]

Good spirit shown from the lads in the end but we got a last minute winner against a poor Newcastle side at home after being out played for the majority of the game. Swings and roundabouts

 

[spiriticon]

You were crying for 30 mins?

Lmao no... Something flew in my eye after the final whistle...

I know we've had a few decent comebacks in the last year, but this one was different. This wasn't lucky. There wasn't 100 aimless crosses/cutbacks into nobody in the box which is the usual case when we 'attack'.

5-6 players were queuing up to smack it home and there was a very real threat on their goal. I actually felt we were going to score 10 goals, instead of the usual 'ah ha we have possession at least, let's hope for the best' feeling whenever we have a 'good' period in the game.

I know it's only Newcastle, and we can't risk everything crazily like this every game. But surely a balance can be found between this awesome attacking fluidity we've witnessed and the sheer impotence of the last few games.

It is the manager's job to find that balance and Mourinho has to earn his wages in this aspect.

 

[noodlehair]

Reminisce the 6-0 victory, Noods. I still remember your after match comment under the tunnel when you said Newcastle were lucky to lose 6-0.

Haha that game was ridiculous though. Even Danny Simpson could have had a hatrick.

I enjoyed the second half yesterday. It's the first time in a long time I've really felt behind this set of players.

It was also tinged with annoyance though, in that we showed in 20 minutes how we are capable of playing if we just run about a bit more. Something which seems to be beyond us 90% of the time. Mata after the game saying the players were "exhausted" as if this is an unusual way for them to feel after a game. Other teams play like this every week, and from the first minute!

Luke Shaw of all people is the only one who seems to get it at the moment.