RAWK goes into Meltdown 2010/2011

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Plan M said:
Typical Liverpool - lose to bottom of the league West Ham, fight against United like it's their cup final, lose the following game to the giants of European football, FC Braga.

They're constantly label Evertonians as "small time" when they're exactly the same!

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We were their world cup, European cup and FA cup final rolled into one. Wonder if there are any commemorative t shirts yet?
 
phelans shorts said:
It's all Woys fault again.

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Brilliant.
 
Awful in so many ways. That team should never have started. We'd be livid if Hodgson was still here.
Very poor effort on almost everyone's part. kuyt at least tried. Can't believe Cole played the whole game.
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Welcome back to normality Kuyt
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Nothing performance again. Kuyt had no support in the first half. A bit better with two up front but no passion again. Why do we always play away like this at the moment? Think the players should have to pay back the fans who went.
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That was fecking PATHETIC two hours of my life wasted. How could there be just one sub, no ambition to go and win the game. If this is our strategy to try and win this competition we'd better focus on the Prem. You'd expect people who make millions for playing football to be able to make a forward pass to a teammate.
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The only word that springs to mind for the last half hour is HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOF!
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Was horrible to watch that. Kenny isn't above criticism, and the team selection from the start was poor.
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WTF

We buy Carroll not for playing HOOFBALL
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I'd be a lot more scathing if Roy was still in charge but Kenny's still untouchable for me this season so I'll keep my gob shut.
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Some of the comments pre-match and post match are pretty embarassing to be honest. Best fans in the world, eh?
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Embarrassing how we get ourselves up for a big game but lose enthusiasm for the less exciting games. Stinks of a small team mentality.
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Back down to earth with a bump. Embarrassment seems to be the theme.
 
The world's back to normal again.


Now we can resume laughing at these imbeciles.:lol::lol:


I can't believe Liverpool can raise their game so much when facing us then put in this kind of performance in the very next game
 
Crumpsall Red said:
I assume you're taking the piss Feeky?

He'd be last on that list for me ..... in fact he wouldn't even be on the list!
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It's based on that best striker of the last 20 years poll they have going on there, that's where he's ranked.

EDIT: He's now outright 4th, ahead of all of those mentioned and unluckily behind three who wish they had an ounce of his talent: Fat Ronaldo, Henry and Messi.
 
I remember handing some scouser (spammy I think) his arse on here years ago by showing that Ole Solskjaer was every bit as good as Fowler during the seasons they both played in the premiership.
 
GaryLifo said:
I remember handing some scouser (spammy I think) his arse on here years ago by showing that Ole Solskjaer was every bit as good as Fowler during the seasons they both played in the premiership.
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I remember Davo saying that Solskjaer was our best striker "by a country mile", and then some time after taking the mick out of people, usually me, if we implied the same thing. So he argued the case for Ole before he was picked regularly by Fergie, but once he was a regular, was derisory.
 
Fowler league appearances and league goals between 1996 and 2002

2001-02 Leeds ENG 22 12
2001-02 Liverpool ENG 10 3
2000-01 Liverpool ENG 27 8
1999-00 Liverpool ENG 14 3
1998-99 Liverpool ENG 25 14
1997-98 Liverpool ENG 20 9
1996-97 Liverpool ENG A 32 18
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Total 150 apps 67 goals


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Ole Gunner Solskjaer

2001-02 Manchester United ENG A 30 17
2000-01 Manchester United ENG A 31 12
1999-00 Manchester United ENG A 28 12
1998-99 Manchester United ENG A 19 12
1997-98 Manchester United ENG A 22 6
1996-97 Manchester United ENG A 32 18

Total 162 apps 76 goals.

Now this only covers the time both players were at United and Liverpool respectively at the same time, but it certainly shows Ole was his equal in terms of effectiveness at sticking them in the net.
 
GaryLifo said:
Now this only covers the time both players were at United and Liverpool respectively at the same time, but it certainly shows Ole was his equal in terms of effectiveness at sticking them in the net.
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Do you think that Ole would have been as prolific had he been in the Liverpool team during that period ?

I'm absolutely convinced that Robbie would have scored even more had he been playing for that great United side.
 
green demon said:
How many of those Ole goals were when he came on as a sub? I'm sure he was a sub more than Fouler.
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He scored more when he started than when he was a sub.

Ole was a sub more often than maybe he should have been because a) he didn't complain about it and b) because he was so bloody good at it
 
Livvie said:
He scored more when he started than when he was a sub.

Ole was a sub more often than maybe he should have been because a) he didn't complain about it and b) because he was so bloody good at it
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Spot-on as always Liv.
 
GaryLifo said:
Fowler league appearances and league goals between 1996 and 2002

2001-02 Leeds ENG 22 12
2001-02 Liverpool ENG 10 3
2000-01 Liverpool ENG 27 8
1999-00 Liverpool ENG 14 3
1998-99 Liverpool ENG 25 14
1997-98 Liverpool ENG 20 9
1996-97 Liverpool ENG A 32 18
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Total 150 apps 67 goals


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Ole Gunner Solskjaer

2001-02 Manchester United ENG A 30 17
2000-01 Manchester United ENG A 31 12
1999-00 Manchester United ENG A 28 12
1998-99 Manchester United ENG A 19 12
1997-98 Manchester United ENG A 22 6
1996-97 Manchester United ENG A 32 18

Total 162 apps 76 goals.

Now this only covers the time both players were at United and Liverpool respectively at the same time, but it certainly shows Ole was his equal in terms of effectiveness at sticking them in the net.
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Interesting stats.

I guess Solskjaers minutes/goals ratio would probably have been much better than Fowlers too.
 
Feeky_Magee said:
It's based on that best striker of the last 20 years poll they have going on there, that's where he's ranked.

EDIT: He's now outright 4th, ahead of all of those mentioned and unluckily behind three who wish they had an ounce of his talent: Fat Ronaldo, Henry and Messi.
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Are you for real? ronaldo wishing he had an ounce of fowlers talent? If ronaldo had not had a career ravaged by injuries and slight weight issues late on he would without doubt (in my mind) be up there with pele, maradona and best as one of the greatest players to ever play the game, fowler was never on his level, anyone who thinks they were on a par is a fecking idiot
 
20solskjaer said:
Are you for real? ronaldo wishing he had an ounce of fowlers talent? If ronaldo had not had a career ravaged by injuries and slight weight issues late on he would without doubt (in my mind) be up there with pele, maradona and best as one of the greatest players to ever play the game, fowler was never on his level, anyone who thinks they were on a par is a fecking idiot
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You actually think fat Ronaldo had more talent than Fowler? :lol:
 
towcester_red said:
Interesting stats.

I guess Solskjaers minutes/goals ratio would probably have been much better than Fowlers too.
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What those stats don't tell you is that Fowler scored 25 league goals in season 94/95, & 28 League goals in 95/96. In his first 3 full seasons he averaged 24 Premiership goals a season.

Fowler scored a total of 120 goals in 236 appearances during his first spell at the club. Compared to Solskajaer's 91 in 235 games for a superior side.

If Robbie Fowler had been born a Mancunian, & scored the goals he did, for United. Then I dare say the opinions on here would have been ever so slightly different.
 
redman5 said:
What those stats don't tell you is that Fowler scored 25 league goals in season 94/95, & 28 League goals in 95/96. In his first 3 full seasons he averaged 24 Premiership goals a season.

Fowler scored a total of 120 goals in 236 appearances during his first spell at the club. Compared to Solskajaer's 91 in 235 games for a superior side.

If Robbie Fowler had been born a Mancunian, & scored the goals he did, for United. Then I dare say the opinions on here would have been ever so slightly different.
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How does that compare with minutes played?

Mind, wouldn't deny that Fowler at his best was a great player. Shame he was such a twat.
 
20solskjaer said:
Are you for real? ronaldo wishing he had an ounce of fowlers talent? If ronaldo had not had a career ravaged by injuries and slight weight issues late on he would without doubt (in my mind) be up there with pele, maradona and best as one of the greatest players to ever play the game, fowler was never on his level, anyone who thinks they were on a par is a fecking idiot
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Ronaldo never did it in the Premier League, or any league in England for that matter. Stick him up front in Stoke on a wet, windy and freezing night with Huth on him and Delap dropping deep and he wouldn't have been half as effective. Great striker my arse. Not fit to wipe Fowler's deadly boots.
 
To paraphrase the great man.... Fowler was a great player, youse are idiots.

Face it, the chap was an excellent centre forward. No point in shiting on about what people in Europe thought of him.
 
Aboutreika18 said:
I wonder if anyone could dig up the minutes per goal ratios of both Fowler and Solskjaer.
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What would that prove ?

Solskjaer played for team noted for it's attacking capabilities. He'd often come off the bench when maybe United were chasing the game, or if they'd thrashed the opposition into submission. Either way, the opposing players would be mentally & physically done for. So he's always going to be in with a good chance of finding the net isn't he ?

If you analysed goals per minutes on the pitch. Then Daid Fairclough, Liverpool's super-sub of the late 70's early 80's, would be classed as a better striker than Kenny Dalglish.
 
Feeky_Magee said:
Ronaldo never did it in the Premier League, or any league in England for that matter. Stick him up front in Stoke on a wet, windy and freezing night with Huth on him and Delap dropping deep and he wouldn't have been half as effective. Great striker my arse. Not fit to wipe Fowler's deadly boots.
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:lol:

I would hope that one does the trick.
 
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