Smashed is like that bloke who turns up at the end of the party and asks where the beers are.
RAWK goes into Meltdown 2010/2011
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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You have missed something alright.
You could say they same for fowler never having done it in europe or a world cup
Where the beers are?
If it's any consolation, I did find the minutes per goal ratios of Cole, Solskjaer and Yorke during the treble season:
Yorke - 114.61
Cole - 129.3
Solskjaer - 69.86
Helped out by those 4 in 10 minutes against Forrest.
In terms of how the world views him, Fowler paid a (fair) price for a variety of things. The biggest thing is his talents in the years he was at the top of his game weren't showcased at the most important places - The Champions League and the International stage, where first England had Shearer and Sheringham and them Owen overtook him. The Premier League was growing, but wasn't the moster it is today.
And when the PL started to be that big, Fowler himself was not anymore. Even in his latter years at Liverpool and later at Leeds and City you could see his strikers instinct, but between injuries he was no longer the same player and wasn't doing enough to make the world stand and take notice.
Yeah, a good league striker. Italy had them, Spain had them. Popular with their clubs, appreciated in the country for their abilities, but as far as people outside of England are concerned, that's that.
And when the PL started to be that big, Fowler himself was not anymore. Even in his latter years at Liverpool and later at Leeds and City you could see his strikers instinct, but between injuries he was no longer the same player and wasn't doing enough to make the world stand and take notice.
Yeah, a good league striker. Italy had them, Spain had them. Popular with their clubs, appreciated in the country for their abilities, but as far as people outside of England are concerned, that's that.
Yep. Nail on head. Fowler was just your run-of-the-mill 'good league striker'.
ten-a-penny.
Fowler = Kevin Davies.
The Premier League is a much higher standard than the World Cup. Tottenham would piss the World Cup.
If Fowler had looked after himself better he could have reached the lofty heights of Kevin Davies, i think he's more on par with Marcus Bent.
Tottenham? West Ham would piss the world cup!
Nah, Tottenham would knock 'em out in the semis.
They don't tell you that because they were taken from a post/argument in which the two players were being compared over the same seasons while playing for their respective clubs.
You cannot know whether Ole may have scored more or less goals had he been in England during those earlier three seasons that you are referring to.
I am not, nor have I ever claimed that Ole is superior to Fowler, I was just making the point that he compares very favourably to Fowler over the same time period. i.e. Fowler doesn't "shit all over Solskjaer" as was the argument at the time.
You also go on about the strength of the United side, but that is using hindsight because we ended up being successful. The season Ole joined us, we had lost Hughes, Kanchelkis and Ince and were being written off as also rans in comparison to your spice boys side who were well up there in the title race between 1996-2002. This is further supported by the fact that you won a few pots in this period including the plastic treble of which you were all keen to gloat about being the dawn of a new era of dominance for Liverpool at the time. "ten reasons Liverpool will win the league this season" & "how the mighty have fallen" threads in the classics being splendid examples of this.
Fowler and Ole were two of the most natural finishers the Premier League has seen.
Not quite true. Solskjaer joined a double winning team in 1996.
That's interesting, because I had an article that said that based on minutes played, OGS was the league's leading goalscorer in 98/99,
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Coming from a Liverpool fan.
Christ. The irony indeed. A city and a football club of victims.Yes he did, I stand corrected.
Liverpool made the cup final in 1996 though and finished 3rd in the league so were hardly what you'd call a side with massive problems.
Yes, this was my point. Ole's record of goals per match is slightly better than Fowler but his goals per minute I would suspect would be significantly better.
Yep. Nail on head. Fowler was just your run-of-the-mill 'good league striker'.
ten-a-penny.
I'm very much talking about how the world views him, people outside of England or those who are not very much into English football. The many who based their views on International football or Champions League football - there wasn't the same huge interest in English football in the mid-ninties - just didn't see him do the business on those stages. Not his fault, but that's the way it is.
When he was great, he really was great. Not that many people globally will see it that way. Juan Antonio Pizzo was top scorer in Spain for one season in the mid 90s, around the same period Italy had some quality league strikers who've done most of their damage in the Serie A (Chiesa, Signori, Protti). People will probably see him the same way.
Has it not occurred to you that Robbie's goals were the main contributory factor in our 'decent' season ?. Bearing in mind we'd finished 8th a couple of seasons prior. & as such, simply backs up my argument about the quality of the guy - Ole joined a dominant, attacking side that had just won it's 3rd title in 4 years. His goals were always going to be easier to come by, just by virtue of the fact he was surrounded by better players.......Can you not see that ?
How many games have Carroll and Suarez played together?! Has this RAWKite just came back from the future where Caroll and Suarez are lighting up the Premier League together?
I love how Dippers jump to the "it's on!" bandwagon in a flash!
And that, Scousers, is how you show respect to a player being carried off the pitch.
RAWK in uproar why Scholes wasn't sent off.
Noticed that, they're fans are general scum.
It might have been better if he was sent off, 1 match ban not two and yellow cards wiped soon.
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That actually, genuinely, makes me feel a little sick.
What lovely people they are.
That kind of comment about one of their players, would get a suspension on here.
Nasty, jealous and vindictive sums it up. And classless.
That kind of comment about one of their players, would get a suspension on here.
Nasty, jealous and vindictive sums it up. And classless.
Did anyone read Paul Wilsons next year is their year article yet in sundays Guardian?
Check it can't copy and paste on this phone
They will be excited
We will laugh
Check it can't copy and paste on this phone
They will be excited
We will laugh
That's quite simply the most hilarious bit of scouse delusional daydreaming I have ever read in the so-called "professional" media.
Are we sure Paul Tompkins didn't ghost write it for him?
Is this "where will all the goals come from" or was that Rob Smyth
I always get mixed up
Delusional indeed already being embraced on twitter as we speak as a good piece too!
I always get mixed up
Delusional indeed already being embraced on twitter as we speak as a good piece too!
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