RAWK goes into Meltdown 2010/2011

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Sam.G said:
Fair enough.

You think he's best on the right of midfield? Or in the centre?

On the right, I can understand. Though he hasn't played there on a regular basis for years. In the centre, I simply can not. Not disciplined enough.
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Oh God, you've just gone down in my estimation mate. That's claptrap.
 
But you blokes had threads around Steven Gerrard being a better midfielder than Roy Keane when he was playing there. Which is it, he has no discipline there or he's better than Roy Keane and Paul Scholes?
 
Oh dear lord, RAWKites actually exist in real life?!

One has made a video crying about his banning from RAWK:



Includes such beauties as "I love this site", "Carra's a knobhead" and "Representing Esseeeeeex". No, seriously.

EDIT: Removed. Bollocks. It was hilarious.
 
Sooo... what does the RAWKites have to say that Leonardo has bring Inter in 5 game winning streak with the same players that Benitez have, and playing a far more attractive game?

Oh, and Leo said yesterday that they didn't need to buy 5 players in January :lol:
 
I bet the handful of realistic posters were getting too convincing, so they had to pull the plug.

If we were to win another treble I suspect they'd just delete the portion of the site devoted to the 21st Century.
 
Nah, they'd just be constantly discussing* how they would have been the ones winning it if Rafa was still there.

*In the form of love poems.
 
Sensible RAWKite (Oxymoron?) said:
The man has been an indisputably poor manager for eighteen months now.

But hey, carry on emphasizing trophies he won five years ago, ignoring his considerably poor transfer record, ignoring his alienation of the key players that got him through to latter stages of the Champions league, ignoring the fact that he managed to take the champions of Europe down to seventh place, ignoring his defensive-mindedness against the worst teams in the league and his over-reliance on certain players to attack, ignoring the constant blame-shifting away from his own performance that occurs anywhere he sets foot.
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RAWKite response 1 said:
Most neutral fans don't realise the real constraints Rafa was placed under at the club. They just see the name Liverpool and a few highly priced signings and they put two and two together and make five. Much like the 'objective' media.

The Liverpool fans who are still backing Rafa to this day are those of us armed with a real knowledge of his signings, how much money he had to spend, how it compared to our rivals, what he won, how we won it, what happened behind the scenes, how we played, how we progressed etc.

It's the real details, the smaller things that actually contribute to how a team performs that most neutral fans miss. It's why I wouldn't consider arguing with a Tottenham fan about the merits of Martin Jol's time at the club because whatever I might have read in the papers or heard on the grape vine I will never have a knowledge as in depth as someone who spends large periods of their spare time dedicated to watching Tottenham Hotspur.
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Turns out you can't judge a manager unless you support the team. Also, all of Rafa's signings totalled a collective of £12,000. Boy do I feel foolish now.
RAWKite response 2 said:
... cliched and inaccurate "Sky Sports" view that's trotted out time and time again by those who haven't got a clue about football.
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Also it's all our fault for not understanding football.
 
Bearded but no genius said:
Probably claim the players should be sacked for refusing to give their all to the manager.
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well, that's exactly what they said
They have been winning consecutively since Leonardo took over , aren't they? Really does reflect badly on Rafa. The players should be ashamed of themselves , deliberately not giving a feck because they didn't like the coach. Disgusting attitude , exemplifies everything that is wrong in the game today.

feck player power , the concepts of loyalty and integrity are alien to these mercenaries.
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:lol:
 
Since that amazing day when we heard that Kenny was coming back to us as manager, there seems to have been a marked shift at the club.

Supporters, who had become divided and angry during the previous months, have become more united and chant his name from the stands, the players seem to have grown in confidence and stature, performances on the pitch are improving and we can look to the future with a bit of a hopeful heart.

The whole club seems to have developed a bit of a spring in its step - a sea change to how things have been for the past few months, and indeed last season too.

Players who seemed to have been totally demoralised are now starting to play again. The change in attitude of Torres for example has been most noticeable. Our main striker now seems to want to play for us again, is attacking and battling for the ball and starting to show just how talented he is.

The performance of the whole team has been lifted, as if the shackles have been removed and they are actually enjoying what they are doing again.
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:lol:

Somebody tell them that they have failed to win three matches in "King Kenny" Tenure, 2 of them should've been probably won and the performance has been laughable. Lifting the Shackles Indeed.
 
Tom Werner gave an interview saying that Hodgson was sacked because football was a results business before going on to say that "Kenny has proven so far so great". He's one of them.
 
KM said:
:lol:

Somebody tell them that they have failed to win three matches in "King Kenny" Tenure, 2 of them should've been probably won and the performance has been laughable. Lifting the Shackles Indeed.
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It's also about performance, KM.

We have been far more positive and fluent under KK than we ever were under Hodgson. The results will most definitely follow as the players are better than the table (and many on here) suggests.
 
Sam.G said:
It's also about performance, KM.

We have been far more positive and fluent under KK than we ever were under Hodgson. The results will most definitely follow as the players are better than the table (and many on here) suggests.
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I don't buy it Sam, I saw the performances against Us and Everton and both of them weren't that different from that of Hodgson's rein, defensively you lot are a shambles I think.

Didn't watch Blackpool that's why couldn't comment on it, although the newsreports I have read for that much suggest that Liverpool didn't deserve to win the match.
 
Sam.G said:
It's also about performance, KM.

We have been far more positive and fluent under KK than we ever were under Hodgson. The results will most definitely follow as the players are better than the table (and many on here) suggests.
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We were poor at Old Trafford in the cup and yet you barely threatened. First 5 minutes aside you got outplayed by a Blackpool side who've lost as many as they've won at home. You were diabolical in the second half against Everton. There's been no performances so far that have been more "positive" or "fluent" than your performances against Villa, West Ham and Chelsea under Hodgson. You've got the ball on the deck a bit more than under Hodgson but it's still been uninspiring stuff.
 
KM said:
I don't buy it Sam, I saw the performances against Us and Everton and both of them weren't that different from that of Hodgson's rein, defensively you lot are a shambles I think.
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KK arrived back at 10.30 the morning of the Utd game. He didn't even pick the side.

I have only seen clips of the Blackpool game but the Everton performance going forward was far more fluid and positive than anything under Hodgson. Defensively, we were all over the place, I agree.

The results will come though, I am pretty confident about that. If they don't, chuck this post back at me by all means.
 
Feeky_Magee said:
We were poor at Old Trafford in the cup and yet you barely threatened. First 5 minutes aside you got outplayed by a Blackpool side who've lost as many as they've won at home. You were diabolical in the second half against Everton. There's been no performances so far that have been more "positive" or "fluent" than your performances against Villa, West Ham and Chelsea under Hodgson. You've got the ball on the deck a bit more than under Hodgson but it's still been uninspiring stuff.
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'tis all about opinions.
 
I don't really give a shit who the manager is on a side as marginal as yours
 
Sam.G said:
KK arrived back at 10.30 the morning of the Utd game. He didn't even pick the side.

I have only seen clips of the Blackpool game but the Everton performance going forward was far more fluid and positive than anything under Hodgson. Defensively, we were all over the place, I agree.

The results will come though, I am pretty confident about that. If they don't, chuck this post back at me by all means.
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Funny that, as the side picked for Old Trafford was much more sensible and balanced than the one for Bloomfield Road.

And as someone who saw the Blackpool game, you were awful. Didn't look look scoring once Blackpool went ahead, Dalglish seemed to have no plan B. Two subs made far too late. At 1-2 down to Everton, you didn't look like doing anything either, until Howard spazzed up.
 
Feeky_Magee said:
Funny that, as the side picked for Old Trafford was much more sensible and balanced than the one for Bloomfield Road.

At 1-2 down to Everton, you didn't look like doing anything either, until Howard spazzed up.
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I agree re the Bloomfield Rd side. Pleased to see he immediately learned from that mistake and rectified it for the following Sunday.

I don't agree the last excerpt of your post. But, as I say, it's all about opinions.
 
reelworld (Quoting RAWK) said:
They have been winning consecutively since Leonardo took over , aren't they? Really does reflect badly on Rafa. The players should be ashamed of themselves , deliberately not giving a feck because they didn't like the coach. Disgusting attitude , exemplifies everything that is wrong in the game today.

feck player power , the concepts of loyalty and integrity are alien to these mercenaries.
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Right, feck player power! You would never see Stevie Gee or any of the mighty reds doing anything but giving 110% for their manager, or trying to force him out!



Hang on a second...
 
Sam.G said:
KK arrived back at 10.30 the morning of the Utd game. He didn't even pick the side.

I have only seen clips of the Blackpool game but the Everton performance going forward was far more fluid and positive than anything under Hodgson. Defensively, we were all over the place, I agree.

The results will come though, I am pretty confident about that. If they don't, chuck this post back at me by all means.
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You're saying as if KK just got back from a long retirement at mt. Hua San.

He's been assistant manager for quite a good few years under Rafa and Hodgson, surely he's not a complete newcomer?
 
Sky1981 said:
You're saying as if KK just got back from a long retirement at mt. Hua San.
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I am not really saying that at all. Merely saying he wasn't back in time to affect team selection or tactics for the OT game.

He's been assistant manager for quite a good few years under Rafa and Hodgson, surely he's not a complete newcomer?
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Not quite assistant manager but, yes, he has had his hand in. But I am not for a minute saying he hasn't.
 
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