Proud_Lyon
Banned Cnut
Yeah, think we'll see Jones and Cleverley in the centre vs Arse anal.
Are you being serious Fergus?
Yeah, think we'll see Jones and Cleverley in the centre vs Arse anal.
Sorry man, my mistake. I thought when you said that I was being funny that you was taking the pissI haven't even had a drink yet either!
Are you being serious Fergus?
He's better than both Jones and Smalling at RB though. That's the point.
Based on what? Smalling has had some great games at RB. Fabio couldn't always get a game at QPR.
Who else will play there?
Based on what? Smalling has had some great games at RB. Fabio couldn't always get a game at QPR.
How many times did Sir Alex play Young on the wing, how many times did he play Smalling at Right-back? Another thing, Valencia was playing terrible up until recently, even when he had Rafa behind him so, it doesn't matter who is right-back. So, just get behind your manager and stop whinging ffs. He has only been in the job 5 minutes, and I am sure that you were criticising Sir Alex back in 1986?
Actually Fergie loaned out Fabio and played Jones/Smalling at RB as well. Büttner is on the bench and had a decent game against Norwich I'd say so I don't understand the moaning here mate. Agree that Smalling is inept offensively but he's been one of our best players against Leverkusen in the CL.
TBF, I'm pretty rational and calm about it and I'd much prefer to see Fabio getting a run in the team if the place is up for grabs. Smalling has good games from a defensive point of view, but playing him/Jones there hinders our attacking play so much!!
I reckon a really good performance from Fellaini tonight would get him in. Carrick may return?
I don't like seeing him there either for the same reason but Moyes, and Fergie who played Smalling at RB at times, obviously feel it's the lesser of two evils playing him there. Fabio just hasn't gained the trust needed for whatever reason; I'd give him a game in the League Cup, not in a game this important.
Based on what? Smalling has had some great games at RB. Fabio couldn't always get a game at QPR.
Would be risky. Fellaini played like shit against City after a really good (first half) performance against Leverkusen a few days earlier.
I'd love Carrick to return but I thought the initial assessment given was that he would miss Arsenal?
Erm, I can't remember him ever having a great game at RB. Might have had a decent one occasionally, but more often then not, he's not very good there, both offensively where he has no idea what he's doing, and defensively. Center backs aren't fullbacks. You can't just put them there expecting them to work the same, it's completely different. Look at the game against Stoke a few weeks back, pretty much every one of their attacks came from Smallings side from either Smalling getting beat easily or him falling asleep. I'm not really criticizing him as its unfair to judge him as he's completely out of position there and you can tell every time he plays there. Sociedad are a much better side then Stoke too. Why not play Fabio, someone who was first choice in the second half of 10/11 and was our best player in the champions league final, instead of him? It just makes no sense.
Erm, I can't remember him ever having a great game at RB. Might have had a decent one occasionally, but more often then not, he's not very good there, both offensively where he has no idea what he's doing, and defensively. Center backs aren't fullbacks. You can't just put them there expecting them to work the same, it's completely different. Look at the game against Stoke a few weeks back, pretty much every one of their attacks came from Smallings side from either Smalling getting beat easily or him falling asleep. I'm not really criticizing him as its unfair to judge him as he's completely out of position there and you can tell every time he plays there. Sociedad are a much better side then Stoke too. Why not play Fabio, someone who was first choice in the second half of 10/11 and was our best player in the champions league final, instead of him? It just makes no sense.
Its more having a moan at the people who say playing Smalling at right back or Young on the wing is the safe option, because it really isn't. Safe option usually means that you know what you'll get and you'll usually get a solid performance, but nothing more. I think we can all agree that Smalling at right back more often then not looks lost, but is very good in the middle, where he should be usually. I know Sir Alex played them there, but he did stop doing that last season, didn't he? I can't remember him playing Smalling on the right more then 2 or 3 times all season maybe, and Young hardly got a look in, and rightfully so. Also, I'm behind Moyes, but I'm allowed to criticize him when he makes simple mistakes like Smalling behind Valencia at right back? It might work, but I can't see that being a good decision because Fabio is a better fullback whatever way you look at it and he needs games too.
Buttner always looks decent going forward, but it's defensively where he is clueless. We weren't exactly tested much against Norwich so he wasn't caught out, but away to Sociedad, I can't see what benefit it is to have him on the bench when Fabio would have been cover for both sides, and is a much better player.
Yep, three games was the original line. I've just learnt never to believe this when it comes to big games.
Fellaini isn't the right man to play Arsenal really, but I'm sure nobody would begrudge him a place if he plays out of his skin tonight.
Are you being serious Fergus?
I'd love Kagawa and Fellaini to get on the scoresheet.
8 out of 20 matches ( FA + PL ) Smalling has played as a RB in 2012/13, that's quite a lot if you ask me. I completly agree with you that he offers nothing going forward but we can't tell what's up with Fabio because it seems that Fergie didn't fancy him too much the last season as well, so something must be going on behind the scenes.
I don't think that anybody's talking here about the 'safer options' mate, we should be glad that Young's simply not in the squad but on the bench. Moyes has to put them on the bench/in the squad from time to time I guess, to either attract potential buyers or fulfill some clauses in their contracts. Rather see them on the bench than in the squad.
Fair enough. And I always see people defending decisions like Young starting by saying it's the safe option instead of Nani or Kagawa which is apparently risky, and I saw somebody put Smalling at right back is the safer decision which isn't really true in my opinion.
It's almost like he's used to the atmosphere....Childs is screaming down the mic and Keane just talking normally
Yeah. Above all now I'd love Fellaini to have a stormer and score.