Never understand people who say they are half this or half that . Irish Americans are the worst too
You are one thing if you are born in America and live there you are American eating lucky Charms is not going to make me believe you are Irish
Republic Of Ireland Football Thread
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Never understand people who say they are half this or half that . Irish Americans are the worst too
You are one thing if you are born in America and live there you are American eating lucky Charms is not going to make me believe you are Irish
The GFA has nothing to do with it.
What if one parent is Irish and one parent is English and you spent half your formative years in each country? I never understood people who tried to tell me what I am.
The FAI are to blame.
Grassroots is where it starts.
Look at New Zealand and how they support the grass roots clubs through to pro with the sole purpose of creating the best Rugby team in the world.
Yeah it's Rugby but the model is easily transferred to football
Things seem bleak but there is the core of a good side coming through. Collins is after getting his move to the PL and Omobamidele earned plaudits last season for Norwich so that could be a potential CB partnership in a couple of years.
In midfield, I think Molumby has talent and offensively Idah seems to have turned a corner and looks good on the international stage. And unlike last year, it looks like a lot of the younger talent are starting to get game time: Obafemi and Parrott have gotten moves so that should help their development too.
Really what Ireland need is just that one player to emerge who can act as a focal point for the team- one undisputed class player to "carry" the side. This is where luck comes in. If we had managed to nab Grealish, we probably would have gotten a result against Portugal and won the game last night. If we had gotten Grealish and Rice we'd be in contention to top the group. Fine margins and the hope is that someone of that calibre comes through/declares for us soon.
In midfield, I think Molumby has talent and offensively Idah seems to have turned a corner and looks good on the international stage. And unlike last year, it looks like a lot of the younger talent are starting to get game time: Obafemi and Parrott have gotten moves so that should help their development too.
Really what Ireland need is just that one player to emerge who can act as a focal point for the team- one undisputed class player to "carry" the side. This is where luck comes in. If we had managed to nab Grealish, we probably would have gotten a result against Portugal and won the game last night. If we had gotten Grealish and Rice we'd be in contention to top the group. Fine margins and the hope is that someone of that calibre comes through/declares for us soon.
Surprised you haven’t cap tied Joe Hodge. He’s the kind of player Wales put in the senior team before they’ve made a senior appearance. He’s 18 now and has played for a England a fair bit so if he becomes any good big moves will probably be made to get him back.
Good post. Agree 100%. At our level having just one really top class player makes all the difference.
Not a fan of this weird, aggressive nationality gatekeeping. I'm half Irish, half English and shan't be told otherwise by you two, thank you very much.
It’s even weirder in the context of supporting a football team full of players who could describe themselves the same way.
Northern Ireland won again today. They are in pretty good form on limited resources. It goes to show just how badly the ROI setup has been run
Food for thought..
Not sure what the make up of Northern Ireland's team is but I would guess they have a decent core of players in the 24 to 28 years bracket whereas our players are either too young or to old.
That tweet is nonsense.
People who think we should be doing better than them now, seem to forget how they have changed and how long it actually took to get where they are today. What we are seeing with them is the result of an overhaul in mentality and style over a number of years.
Before Michael O'Neill took them over they had won 2 from 24. His reign started in a similar fashion to how Kenny's is going, no wins in his first ten. Lost to Azerbaijan and Luxembourg in world cup qualifying, he suffered heavy defeats to Holland and Germany too if I remember correctly.
He took the initiai hit for a year or two, transformed their style and did really well for the next 6 years. This is continuing now with more or less the same group of players.
I'm going to put it down to the posters involved having a bit to drink and not any underlying xenophobia!
Blaming Stephen Kenny is an easy out. He sees them a couple of weeks a year. The real failure is in the diabolically awful youth setup, lack of coaches at every level and the fecking shambles it is to get your coaching badges in Ireland. is it to get the Youth Cert that the first test has a 98% failure rate and then for the repeat nearly everyone passes - basically just admitting it's a money grab.
It was Raven who started this post in the first place. I have had nothing to drink mate.
That’s probably the English in you to be fair..
I think the clock is ticking for Kenny no way the FAI will stand for loss of revenue. I’d take Chris Hughton out of the 4 short listed .
None of the options are particularly inspiring and the first two are a piss-take.
Only Hughton and Lennon are viable candidates.
Is this supposed to be the actual short-list drawn up by the FAI or just a journo throwing crap at the wall?
Big Sam linked today. If he gets it then the people who are hounding Kenny deserve garbage football
I think it’s most likely a journo throwing crap at a wall, but Chris Hughton was mentioned in the past and at least he plays football the others are a no go for me.
Naw, we can’t be going back to that either just no. Is Eddie Howe still looking for work maybe wouldn’t be a bad choice?
I'd sooner stick with Kenny then go for any of the four potential replacements listed in the article to be honest.
If Big Sam is brought in then I won’t be watching any matches again. He’s a corrupt scumbag and just a manager version of Delaney.
Changing manager will do feck all anyway. We either stay trying to play football or I’m done. No interest in watching complete shite served up match after match of just hoofing it long to random 30 year olds. The biggest problem right now is scoring a goal and to blame that solely on Kenny is just nonsense. Whether it’s Kenny, Hughton, Lennon, Potter, Farke etc guess what? None of these lads are scoring a goal. If it was all Kenny’s fault then they’d be scoring at club level. Well they aren’t, you’d be hard pressed to find a club goal between the lot of them. We’ve done well against Portugal, Serbia and created many chances the other night. It all comes down the our attack relying on young lads with about 10 senior appearances and 1 goal between them. They simply aren’t scoring, anywhere.
Changing manager will do feck all anyway. We either stay trying to play football or I’m done. No interest in watching complete shite served up match after match of just hoofing it long to random 30 year olds. The biggest problem right now is scoring a goal and to blame that solely on Kenny is just nonsense. Whether it’s Kenny, Hughton, Lennon, Potter, Farke etc guess what? None of these lads are scoring a goal. If it was all Kenny’s fault then they’d be scoring at club level. Well they aren’t, you’d be hard pressed to find a club goal between the lot of them. We’ve done well against Portugal, Serbia and created many chances the other night. It all comes down the our attack relying on young lads with about 10 senior appearances and 1 goal between them. They simply aren’t scoring, anywhere.
The FAI have priced an entire generation out of going to games so should take the blame when attendance is low for the Qatar friendly next month. That is not on Kenny.
Christ Hughton is the only semi-viable candidate among them and even then appointing him would fly in the face of what we’re to achieve at the moment. IF he was to be replaced it should be by someone who can do what he’s doing but better.
What worries me is that the decision will be made by business people and Big Sam probably makes more sense from a business perspective than Stephen Kenny, as there’d be a chance of short term achievement.
I would too but they’ll surely be able to find a slightly wider bigger pool of candidates when the time comes.
True but attendances aren’t removed from performance. When we were more competitive we had good attendances even in nothing friendlies. If we were winning games they’d get a better crowd. So in that sense Kenny has to bear some degree of responsibility, however tenuous.
Yup. Agreed. Although Parrott has had a reasonably encouraging start to the season. The fact that our most prolific strikers has 2 from 5 playing for MK Dons really just endorses what you’re saying.
Strikers aside, is there a single goal scored between all of our midfielders for their clubs so far this season?
I’m willing to bet our goalscorer on Saturday is the only player other than Troy to have scored a goal this season, for club or country. Which is incredible really.
Off the Ball also suggest he may be sacked if they lose to Serbia tomorrow. Potential replacements include Reid, Carsley and Allardyce.
Andy?
Stephen I assume. Seems unlikely though, he only took up a job with Forest last month.
Ugh, this thread is so depressing 
Feck off Big Sam.
Feck off Big Sam.
The bloke who is highly rated but seems to leave jobs in mysterious circumstances every couple of years. I’ll give that one a firm no.
Ah, the press vultures are circling. Seems to be because he didn't want to talk to Tony after the game on Saturday. I don't blame him, even Ronaldo had enough sense to walk away from him during the week.
And Fcuking Allardyce....
I'd Bring back Trap before I'd hire that cnut.
And Fcuking Allardyce....
I'd Bring back Trap before I'd hire that cnut.
Sacking him would be a gigantic mistake. And self-defeating. Whoever takes over will still have the same squad and the same lack of a goalscorer.
Ken Early makes a great point in the IT - since the start of 2017 Ireland have only won 5 competitive games... Wales, Gibraltar x2, Georgia and Moldova.
Ken Early makes a great point in the IT - since the start of 2017 Ireland have only won 5 competitive games... Wales, Gibraltar x2, Georgia and Moldova.
Steven.
Both Carsley and him had to look elsewhere for their coaching opportunities so not sure they would be queuing up to work with the FAI.
You're right- if Kenny is to go it has to be for someone who plays attractive football but is more proven at getting results.
Howe would 100% tick those boxes but I can't imagine he'd have any interest. Even someone like Hughton would only take the job because he played for us previously.
Big Sam would probably take it for the same reasons Trap did: he gets to coach dour football for decent money on an occasional basis while still enjoying being effectively retired.
If they sack Kenny i can't see them giving to anyone with no mamagerial expierence so unless Hughton would take it i fear we are left with Lennon and Allardyce which would be horrible
By stating that I'm half Irish, half English? What a bastard I am.
Can I take that bet? Callum Robinson and Dara O'Shea have both scored a few for West Brom. Don't forget Egan who scored in Portugal 3 days earlier!!!
I'm all for playing better football and I hope Kenny is given a chance in charge but I think he needs to focus much more on set pieces.
I agree that Ireland have nothing in attack. They have Duffy, Egan and O'Shea who are all a huge threat from set pieces.
You can play beautiful possession football all you want but the aim of football is to win. You win by scoring goals. If you have 3 big boppers who are better in the air than their opponents, it's stupid not to take advantage.
If Kenny had won a few games via Shane Duffy headers he'd have a lot more time to implement any style he wants.
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