Can’t believe I forgot about CR7.
Re set-pieces I don’t think anyone in the team takes them for their club. And it shows. Our delivery from set-pieces is rubbish.
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Can’t believe I forgot about CR7.
Re set-pieces I don’t think anyone in the team takes them for their club. And it shows. Our delivery from set-pieces is rubbish.
It needs to be a key focus of the preparation. If there's nobody in the starting 11 who is good enough, pick Hourihane.
It's easily Ireland's best chance to score.
Southgate's run with England was basically built off set pieces. He even picked Trippier at left back ahead of Shaw and Chilwell for his delivery.
Kenny came out swinging in his presser anyway. Believes we can't be short sighted, that changing manager / philosophy may bring results against the teams we expect to beat now but not against the teams we are striving to beat in the longer term.
If we finish 2nd last or last will that damage our seeding in the future? If so things are only going to get more difficult.
I believe him. Just about. But I think there’s a question in there about whether he should, even allowing for this apparent revolution, be beating those teams we expect to beat now. I like him but he needs to be very careful he doesn’t veer into ‘jam tomorrow’ territory.
Well, I think he is the man, and not only because he's brave enough to stick to his guns. A version of this cultural change conversation has been had to some degree as far back as that masterful performance against the USSR in Euro 88 due to injuries forcing Charlton to play a more cultured midfield, and yet Kenny is the one who has shown the most interest in this change and has shown extraordinary resolve and a commitment to what he believes is the right thing to do.
I think we have to take that chance. Football on this island is in real trouble compared to where it was 30 years ago. The participation of kids is currently on the rise for GAA and Rugby at the expense of football.. Although that might be more indicative of me being a class traitor and know only middle-class types.
I’ve run it through my head and I can’t see Kenny being sacked not because he’s some revolutionary football genius but because why would anyone else take us over?
I believe in his ideals and the convictions behind them. I’m somewhat less convinced by his ability to execute, based on what I’ve seen of him in the job so far. The message, in the main, hasn’t gotten across, as yet.
Brexit will cause major issues, too. Without the requisite infrastructure (academies, over-stocking of qualified coaches etc.) the decision to largely outsource the development of a large proportion of our best young players to cross-channel clubs won’t be one we can continue with.
Big Sam in. 4-4-2, Duffy and Egan upfront and launch it forward. That's all were good for. Both scoring our goals already. We will find 2 more tall centre halfs somewhere to play at the back.
I'm not sure he's the guy but this campaign is already a write-off and I have zero confidence in our ability to distinguish between him not being good enough and the idea of progressive football being a bad one. So we might as well continue on.
The worst case outcome in this scenario is a reversion to decidedly negative football that is ineffective long-term.
The worst case outcome in this scenario is a reversion to decidedly negative football that is ineffective long-term.
Whilst there were some good days under Jack. He had some fantastic players he just chose not to use them properly. The decision to hire him over Bob Paisley has led us to this point where we've been almost purely a long ball team for over 30 years. It's been pretty much the same style under each manager since.
I look at GAA, if you see how it has evolved in style over the last 30 odd years, even in the last 10 years. It's now much more heavily based around possesion and ball progression rather than quick long high balls up the field. If amateur players, who train 2 or 3 nights a week can get to grips with a more controlled style of football. There's no reason why professional soccer players who play every day can't.
Kenny is doing the right thing, he's the only manager I can remember that's been brave enough to try and change it up, sticking to his principles and not reverting back to type is a must.
I don't see what's gained by cutting him loose now. Give him a few more games, we looked decent for long spells against Portugal which suggested there might be signs of something emerging - as crap as we were in the first half against Azerbaijan it took a world class strike from them to get a draw. Granted we can't go years without winning a competitive game but given the extraordinary circumstances of the pandemic and the fact he was brought in to oversee a change in style from top to bottom, I think there is merit to keeping him on but we have to accept it can't continue for much longer, he has to turn a corner sooner rather than later.
Very interesting thread. Hard to disagree with very much of it other than this need to cast if as a sort of binary, progress v hoof ball choice with nothing in the middle, which was well teased out on Second Captains today.
Has the decline in performances in recent years forced a hard reset on how Ireland develop players? Are the FAI still as shameful and shambolic as ever? Are they embracing any of the steps that other smaller countries like Iceland, Belgium and even Scotland have taken?
Your man McGrath has scored a couple for St Mirren. Decent player, Hibs tried to nick him before the end of the transfer window.
I thought Mc Grath did very well against Portugal in his first competitive game. Hopefully he's in the team tonight.
I certainly wouldn't brag about it. I am Full Irish mate. Let's end it there..
I think Kenny's interview yesterday has sold me on giving him another shot at the Euros
Will be interesting to see if FAI back him after tonight
Will be interesting to see if FAI back him after tonight
Okay then, weirdo
Both teams playing same formation, could see a punt it to Mitrovic kinda game..
3 minutes in and Serbia already look very good..
Long night ahead!
Long night ahead!
Kenny is doing the right thing, but I don't think it will add up to anything. The biggest difference has been how Dublin GAA have set up camps for kids from around 6 years of age. My area (tallaght) used to be all about football, but the GAA offered a free sport to kids who couldn't afford to play any other sport. A number of football clubs in Tallaght are constantly begging for players, meanwhile my local GAA club (St. Annes) have three under 10's teams.
I remember reading about Iceland in 2016, and how their F.A. built hundreds of free 5 a side pitches, managed by UEFA qualified coaches. They done all this with a grant from UEFA, of about €3m. The article mentioned Ireland got the same grant (It was in the Guardian, they just mentioned Ireland in passing). I doubt the money went back into grass roots football, more likely it got paid to Nadia Forde to sing for John Delaney.
It's got to the stage where Rugby is a bigger draw for kids in Tallaght than football. That is beyond ridiculous. I don't blame the kids, they see Dublin win All Irelands by the bucketload, they see Leinster Rugby smashing most of Europe, and their players winning grand slams. Meanwhile, the FAI clubs can barely survive. clubs like Shamrock Rovers are holding open camps to get kids involved, but when the choice for parents in the most deprived area in the country is to have your kids play a sport for free where their kids can emulate the greatest GAA team this country has ever seen, or play an expensive sport with crap grassroots and no supported local clubs, it's not a hard choice.
Even if the FAI change their ways now, I think we are looking at another generation passing before the players start coming through.
Just tuned in wasn't Mitrovic who scored was it?
Milinkovic Savic seems to have matured maybe what we could be looking for from an United point of view?
Just moved out to Santry, same up here, all about the GAA, multiple clubs and free camps for the kids to choose from.
No. Milinkovic Savic
Bazunu saving us here
What’s the tactic here anyway we don’t seem to be playing much football, just get it to McClean to whip in a cross…
No idea how he is doing at club level but Bazunu looks like he could be a quality young keeper.
Same here. I coach with young groups in both and the difference in numbers in probably about 3 times as many at the gaelic.
GAA where I am is a token fee for annual memebership and that's it. Soccer is 200-300 a year, plus an additional charge for training where lights are needed, plus a weekly payment for refs if there is a match. Then you have kids going to places where there's not even changing rooms or any decent facilities at all for the most part.
He's at loan at Portsmouth from City apparently but I've no idea how he's doing there either but he's some talent.
Omobamidele's looking great as well. He needs a loan if Norwich won't give him a game.
Wish i was watching what the RTE commentators are as they are talking like this is the greatest irish performance ever
Gotta applaud the defence they’ve put in a hell of a shift some heroic stuff..
I know it's only a throw-in but how the feck does the linesman not see that?
Unbelievable
Bazunu is having some game.
Savage
Yessss you boy yeee!
Fantastic cross from Robinson he does have quality
cnuts never dissapoint no matter what generationEdit: ops wrong thread
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