Right Winger... Who do we go for?

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Is he a right winger? I know it says he is on transfermarkt, but most of his highlights on youtube have him positioned either centrally or on the left, scoring goals with his right foot.
 
Is he a right winger? I know it says he is on transfermarkt, but most of his highlights on youtube have him positioned either centrally or on the left, scoring goals with his right foot.

If you are on about Mkhitaryan I was thinking the same so looked at all of his goals and assists on Youtube (sad I know).

He scored or assisted 25 from the left side 15 from the right side 11 from a central position with 4 from corners.

So it seems he has a pretty free roll and doesn't stick to the right hand side.
 
If we don't Martial will be double teamed all of the time just like last season. I don't get the need for one wing to essentially be a dead zone, this defensive winger shit is backwards and needs to die. Plus we are adding a 35 year old striker who thrives on pace flanking him either side.

I'd agree. But I'd expect Jose to get a solid RB in place before he spends serious money on a right winger.

Rooney is the sticking point. he may be played as a 10, out wide, up top if no Zlatan, deeper. We don't know.

I'm sure there's a plan. There are far better right wingers than Rooney available. There are far better 10's available too.

I think we'll spend a fortune on one marquee player. Rooney will end up playing wherever we don't invest money.
 
I'd agree. But I'd expect Jose to get a solid RB in place before he spends serious money on a right winger.

Rooney is the sticking point. he may be played as a 10, out wide, up top if no Zlatan, deeper. We don't know.

I'm sure there's a plan. There are far better right wingers than Rooney available. There are far better 10's available too.

I think we'll spend a fortune on one marquee player. Rooney will end up playing wherever we don't invest money.

Jose can use Valencia or Darmian as the RB or even Bailly, all are more about the defensive side than the attack, but using the actual wing spot for anything but a proper attacker is the kind of negative move that brought the question marks about him as our manager to begin with. At Real Madrid he had Di Maria and Ronaldo on the wings, Di Maria did a lot of work but it didn't hinder his attacking game.

Rooney is definitely an issue, wherever we stick him that position will be a weak spot and make the team less than it could be.
 
Jose can use Valencia or Darmian as the RB or even Bailly, all are more about the defensive side than the attack, but using the actual wing spot for anything but a proper attacker is the kind of negative move that brought the question marks about him as our manager to begin with. At Real Madrid he had Di Maria and Ronaldo on the wings, Di Maria did a lot of work but it didn't hinder his attacking game.

Rooney is definitely an issue, wherever we stick him that position will be a weak spot and make the team less than it could be.

I think it's about viewing the team and it's additions as a whole.

If we sign a central midfielder that can do for us what Toure did for City at his best (ie Pogba), I'd happily go without a new right winger.

If we somehow signed Griezmann to play down the right, I'd be pretty happy with our central midfield options for a season.

Rome wasn't built in a day. By the end of January I reckon we'll have made a few additions and Jose will know who is surplus to requirements. He may have found a position for Rooney too, who knows.

A new right winger would be a low priority for me this Summer, but obviously I'd love a world class one to be bought if they were available.
 
I'd agree. But I'd expect Jose to get a solid RB in place before he spends serious money on a right winger.

Rooney is the sticking point. he may be played as a 10, out wide, up top if no Zlatan, deeper. We don't know.

I'm sure there's a plan. There are far better right wingers than Rooney available. There are far better 10's available too.

I think we'll spend a fortune on one marquee player. Rooney will end up playing wherever we don't invest money.
Unpopular opinion but I personally thinks that Darmian has very similar attributes to Azpilicueta and can actually thrive as Jose's RB.
 
I am sure he'd get a kick out of it but I don't think we have even been linked with him, Ounas and the Mexican kid are the only 2 wide players we've been linked with in the last few weeks.

We hadn't been linked with bailly either. I just can't help but feeling that his attributes make him a perfect mou player, he would potentially satisfy the marquee thing that woody is after so badly and his contract situation means that he is begging for someone to come get him. If we could get him quick then it may also make don't mind more reluctant to sell auba to for example city. Which we do not want at all.
 
We hadn't been linked with bailly either. I just can't help but feeling that his attributes make him a perfect mou player, he would potentially satisfy the marquee thing that woody is after so badly and his contract situation means that he is begging for someone to come get him. If we could get him quick then it may also make don't mind more reluctant to sell auba to for example city. Which we do not want at all.

Who are we talking about Mkhitaryan? He's only markie to a football nerd! Half of the world don't have a clue who he is.
 
I suppose that is true... Better get Pogba too then to keep ed happy!
 
If Mhikitaryan falls through, how abut Arda Turan from Barcelona? He is underused there and probably ready to move on. I think Barcelona will sell as well

I know he is not a right-winger per say, more like a AM, but has been deployed often enough on right side of midfield, right wing. In his prime (29) and would slot right in for us.
 
I think Arda would cost more than he is worth

Barca paid about 35m euros, I am sure they would accept the same. 35m euros for 3+ years of top service from him would be worth it. We can't just have a team of 18-23 year olds, need some experienced heads in there as well.

He is also very grafty when it comes to the defensive side. I remember him for Atletico, he was a real grafter with moments of brilliance.
 
Barca paid about 35m euros, I am sure they would accept the same. 35m euros for 3+ years of top service from him would be worth it. We can't just have a team of 18-23 year olds, need some experienced heads in there as well.

He is also very grafty when it comes to the defensive side. I remember him for Atletico, he was a real grafter with moments of brilliance.
3+ top years. OMG. Glad you're not in charge. He's nearly 30. We need to learn our lessons. Making the same mistakes over and over is just NUTS.
 
I'm not sure Mkhitaryan is all the great tbh. He's not really an out and out winger and while he's had a fantastic year I'm just not sure he's really what we need. I'd much rather get a wide forward player like Mahrez who I think could net 20 goals in a good team. Sane would also be a better option just for his additional pace and similar dribbling threat to Martial on the left. I can't help feel that Dortmunds good year has screwed all their player stats to a higher level this year than they would achieve elsewhere.
 
One thing I will say is I think people underestimate the adaptability of a top manager, and always seem to think it's a copy and paste job from their previous team.

If we recruited Ranieri, it isn't necessarily a 'who will he sign to be our Mahrez? Who will he sign to be our Kante?'. Not convinced it works like that, and the same goes for Mourinho.

I'm not exactly sure who was supposed to be the workaholic defensive winger in his best ever team (in my opinion) between Robben and Duff. Teams are constructed a bit more complex, and dependent on the strengths and weaknesses of what you have I think. I see no reason why he wouldn't look for flair down the right to go with flair down the left, despite many thinking it's not his model.
 
Unpopular opinion but I personally thinks that Darmian has very similar attributes to Azpilicueta and can actually thrive as Jose's RB.

I also rate Darmian. He's a solid defender and will no doubt show it with Italy in the next month.
 
I'm not sure Mkhitaryan is all the great tbh. He's not really an out and out winger and while he's had a fantastic year I'm just not sure he's really what we need. I'd much rather get a wide forward player like Mahrez who I think could net 20 goals in a good team. Sane would also be a better option just for his additional pace and similar dribbling threat to Martial on the left. I can't help feel that Dortmunds good year has screwed all their player stats to a higher level this year than they would achieve elsewhere.
Mkhitaryans a de bruyne type assist machine from what I can see which would be good because we don't create enough. Martial will already get a stackload from the left with the right players around him
 
Mkhitaryans a de bruyne type assist machine
Mkhitaryan should be played at #10, or even #8. A waste to play him on the wing; he'd be worse than most pure wingers. Played through the middle he scores goals too with his long distance shots and one-twos allowing him to finish in the box; he also does a lot of through balls, lobs over the defence, etc. for his assists. Put him on the wing and I bet he'll spend the whole match trying to cut inside, which is not really any good when you have Zlatan and Martial waiting for a cross.
 
I watched Borussia Dortmund last season. Mkhitaryan used to play in front of 3 with Reus and Aubameyang. Also, he played behind the striker. IMO he is not a bad winger but he is better as No.10, at least in the games I saw.

I read that Sane would cost 60m. If that's true, we should go or someone like Mahrez.
 
I spoke to my mate Chelsea fans about Willian the other day. He thinks Willian isn't a top class player and he wouldnt mind to sell him to us. He thinks that his decision making is so poor all he does is trying to beat players, he has no vision and the ability to know when he needs to pass the ball to his team mate.
 
Depending on Mou's plans for strikers I would be tempted to give Rashford game time on the right, he is best coming in from that side, like a mirror of Martial on the left, that way at least if we have Ibra and Rooney slowing things down in the middle we will still have two rapid wingers and it would mean Rashford wouldn't be warming the bench for a year
 
I spoke to my mate Chelsea fans about Willian the other day. He thinks Willian isn't a top class player and he wouldnt mind to sell him to us. He thinks that his decision making is so poor all he does is trying to beat players, he has no vision and the ability to know when he needs to pass the ball to his team mate.
I hope most of us have seen enough of Chelsea to gather an opinion.
 
I spoke to my mate Chelsea fans about Willian the other day. He thinks Willian isn't a top class player and he wouldnt mind to sell him to us. He thinks that his decision making is so poor all he does is trying to beat players, he has no vision and the ability to know when he needs to pass the ball to his team mate.

If I were Willian, I would accept an offer from a Chinese Super League club right now.
 
Some names to throw; Felipe Anderson, Bernardeschi, Inaki Williams, Bellarabi, Mina, Feghouli, Lucas Moura, Bernardo Silva, Berardi who are all pretty attainable (if we don't get Champions League football) unlike the Bale's and Griezmann's of the transfer market.

Share your thoughts...
Feghouli is very very inconsistent. His playing style is somewhere between Young and Valencia. He has good pace and works hard but end product is not as good as Young. Overall he would not be an upgrade on Young or Valencia. Mina is better than Feghouli and younger too but he is not ready to play for a team who wants to compete for titles yet. Iñaki is very fast and has good acceleration but doesn't depend on his physical attributes, he is intelligent, team player, can pick a good pass or dribble but i don't think he will leave right now.
 
Bernardo Silva is probably our best remaining option with Mkhitaryan seemingly heading for Arsenal and Embolo wanting to head to the Bundesliga. Maybe we could try for Willian but would cost more than he's worth.
 
Haven't seen enough of Mksomethingtaryan, but if he's as good as people claim, i wouldn't mind him.
I'd take Mahrez if possible, he had a brilliant season in the PL.
I miss the days when i lived in the CM/FM-world, and knew every player and their families. :p
 
If Mkhitaryan goes to Arsenal that leaves Mahrez as the only proven quality option around who might be available IMO.
 
Don't think we're after one. No idea why, but it doesn't really seem like we're bothering with a RW player. I guess Lingard will get some game time...
 
I genuinely think Mourinho will go for Gareth Bale.

United will probably give him over £100m to play with to help create his own title challenging team. Add in potential sales of Mata, Fellaini, Memphis, Blind etc, he could easily be spending £200m+ if he chose to.

Ibrahimovic will be a free. Bailly probably only worked out at about £15m up front. He might spend close to £30m on a midfielder such as Kante. So he'll have plenty left over to splash the cash on Bale
 
Mahrez doesn't strike me as a Mourinho winger, especially if played opposite an offensively-oriented player like Martial. Mahrez is a great offensive player and chance creator but he doesn't have particularly good pace, physicality, or defensive contribution. If his past teams are any indication, Mourinho will look for more of an all rounder for the RW.
 
I genuinely think Mourinho will go for Gareth Bale.

United will probably give him over £100m to play with to help create his own title challenging team. Add in potential sales of Mata, Fellaini, Memphis, Blind etc, he could easily be spending £200m+ if he chose to.

Ibrahimovic will be a free. Bailly probably only worked out at about £15m up front. He might spend close to £30m on a midfielder such as Kante. So he'll have plenty left over to slash the cash on Bale

Ehhh, Mourinho may "go for" Messi. That doesn't mean he is attainable.

Bale has won two UCL in three years in Madrid, is on huge wages, has leveraged his time there into massive endorsement income, and is still poised to assume a bigger role in the team whenever Ronaldo fades or walks away. You're not going to turn his head very easily. And Madrid has no incentive to sell, especially with a potential transfer ban in the future.
 
Riyad Mahrez for me every day, he may not be rapid but the way he moves past players with ease and has a terrific range of passing I think he is a no brainer if the 30m price is true, for me Mahrez and Payet were consistently the two best players in the league last season. All I pray is we do not start next season with the same right sided players.
 
Ehhh, Mourinho may "go for" Messi. That doesn't mean he is attainable.

Bale has won two UCL in three years in Madrid, is on huge wages, has leveraged his time there into massive endorsement income, and is still poised to assume a bigger role in the team whenever Ronaldo fades or walks away. You're not going to turn his head very easily. And Madrid has no incentive to sell, especially with a potential transfer ban in the future.
Yes but I didn't say I thought we'd get him, just go for him. Similar to Ramos last season.

I think he will be the "balls in" United target this season. But more likely United will end up with someone else.
 
Yes but I didn't say I thought we'd get him, just go for him. Similar to Ramos last season.

I think he will be the "balls in" United target this season. But more likely United will end up with someone else.

OK, fair enough. I can certainly see you guys at least trying to get him.
 
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