Russia Discussion

Russia today couldn't touch Norway. Not because Norway is strong enough to reject them, but it would be geopolitical suicide. And it was the same story in the aftermath of WW2 as well. Fine, the British troops weren't invisible super soldiers, but they did have the backing of the only nuclear power at the time. Russia engaging those soldiers in combat would have brought a new level of hell on them. This was a time when even pacifists like Bertrand Russell were wavering on their ideals from fear of the bombs. Reckless territorial ambition would have been suicide.
Responding with nuclear power would be political suicide if it was done today, more so than if Russia invaded northern Norway. Look at Ukraine as one example. Hell, even Drumpf and Rocket man haven't put nuclear bombs to use yet. Hiroshima and Nagasaki will hopefully be the last ones used in war (note I can have missed other nuclear bombs used in war before, point being I hope we don't have to see another).

The backing from the US back then means feck all for if the British soldiers untrained with the climate here would stand a chance against the Russians who had a short way to deliver troops and resources while being used to the same climate.

It's unlikely that Norway and Russia will be in war against each other, my ultimate point is that Russias power was more than enough to take over Norway back then but chose to liberate and help rebuild our region instead. The alliances had more than enough to focus on in Belgium and that region, and wouldn't be able to put significant forces into protecting Norway from the russians, reclaiming is absolutely possible, but protecting is a no-go, at the very least down to the south of Norway, which is a very small part of the country despite being the most populated area.

You've still proved feck all when it comes to it being improbable for the Russians to be able to take over Norway back then through taking over Finnmark and getting foot-in here. Norway was in complete disarray during the nazi-occupation. No proper resistance would fall on the Russians until half the country would have been taken over, regardless of allied forced being able to spare soldiers or not.
 
Responding with nuclear power would be political suicide if it was done today, more so than if Russia invaded northern Norway. Look at Ukraine as one example. Hell, even Drumpf and Rocket man haven't put nuclear bombs to use yet. Hiroshima and Nagasaki will hopefully be the last ones used in war (note I can have missed other nuclear bombs used in war before, point being I hope we don't have to see another).

The backing from the US back then means feck all for if the British soldiers untrained with the climate here would stand a chance against the Russians who had a short way to deliver troops and resources while being used to the same climate.

It's unlikely that Norway and Russia will be in war against each other, my ultimate point is that Russias power was more than enough to take over Norway back then but chose to liberate and help rebuild our region instead. The alliances had more than enough to focus on in Belgium and that region, and wouldn't be able to put significant forces into protecting Norway from the russians, reclaiming is absolutely possible, but protecting is a no-go, at the very least down to the south of Norway, which is a very small part of the country despite being the most populated area.

You've still proved feck all when it comes to it being improbable for the Russians to be able to take over Norway back then through taking over Finnmark and getting foot-in here. Norway was in complete disarray during the nazi-occupation. No proper resistance would fall on the Russians until half the country would have been taken over, regardless of allied forced being able to spare soldiers or not.
It's not war in your home town the USSR feared, it was war in Moscow.
 
If Russia is attacked watch China, as they know they will be next. It will be all in or nothing.

They know this because of : Iraq, Syria, Libya .... the US only respects force.

If the US use depleted Uranium weapons expect a severe reaction.

The US cannot win conventional warfare against Russia and China combined. They might win a nuclear war yet that will destroy the planet as we know it.
 
It's not war in your home town the USSR feared, it was war in Moscow.
The idea that the Brits would be able to take the war to Moscow. :lol:


At this point I feel like I'm coming across as a bit ungrateful for a lot of the help the people in the south did get from Britain and Norway in general got from the US and other countries, I'm not. The allied forces as well as Russia was incredibly helpful to Norway and we wouldn't have made it as well through the war without any of them. But it seems like only those of us in the region up here are aware of what the Russians did for us. Hell, the rest of Norway barely even know that Russia helped liberate a huge part of Norway from the Germans.
 
If Russia is attacked watch China, as they know they will be next. It will be all in or nothing.

They know this because of : Iraq, Syria, Libya .... the US only respects force.

If the US use depleted Uranium weapons expect a severe reaction.

The US cannot win conventional warfare against Russia and China combined. They might win a nuclear war yet that will destroy the planet as we know it.

The worst that can happen is another cold war. Both sides know if it comes to conventional warfare the winner will be no more than the king of ruins.
 
The worst that can happen is another cold war. Both sides know if it comes to conventional warfare the winner will be no more than the king of ruins.

I think we already have the cold war though officially it is down-played as they noticed the last time people put off buying consumer durables.
The US has been constructing NATO tactical command posts in Eastern Europe (pre Trump) and Russia has been responding with targeted missile placements.
 
At this stage I even wonder why he is making elections, instead of just declaring himself a Tsar.
 
Less than you think:



Well most of my family live in Russia. I have a lot of friends in Russia. Ethnic Russians, Tatars, Bashkir friends and I don't know a single person who opposes Putin. That's not to say they're die hard Putin supporters, whilst some are; others simply think that he's the best of the worst. I know for sure that they've all voted for him. And generally it's like that throughout the country hence no real surprise that he won.

I know my granddad doesn't want another Yeltsin -- who was fecking clown.
 


:lol::lol: Thats comical.

Why do they keep cctv at polling stations in Russia? Surely just take them down and then fix the results.

Its then like; -- 'they know.. but they don't know..'

Pussy Bonpensiero style!
 
And he still only got ~65% turnout.
 
And he still only got ~65% turnout.

It's fascinating to see them engaging in the whole facade, and I'd argue it shows his position to be more precarious than many would think if he's at all worried that low turnouts would damage him that much.
 
Many have already dismissed the vote as a sham with the Kremlin attempting to mobilise Russians by offering food discount vouchers at polling stations.

Russians have reportedly been told to take photos of themselves at the polls to prove to their bosses that they voted.

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2018/3/18/putin-set-to-win-russian-presidential-election
10% vouchers off food and jewellery plus a veiled hint you might lose your job unless you have a poll selfie.

Also heard there were large cakes appearing at some polling stations. :drool:

Probably encouraged quite a few to turn out.
 
Who really was the opposition and what were their policies?

The elections were a sham.

Putin murdered Boris Nemtsov and had his closest rival Alexei Navalny “convicted” of fake charges which the international human rights court decided were false.

Then had a reality tv star called Sobchak run vs him and he still cheated at the ballot.

The guys 5’6 of pussycat. He’s terrified of any free thinkers actually standing up to him so he uses the FSB to intimidate, physically abuse and bully anyone that shows critical thinking. Juncker and Trump recognising his “election” is frankly unbelievably cowardly - it’s telling that the one quote that Russia ever actually responded to regards the nerve agent business was the “shut up and go away” one. It’s all pride and hubris and nothing else.
 
Some reports that the Russian government is beginning to examine the possibility of ‘integrating’ Belarus.
 
Integrating? Is this a way to move to integrate Ukraine. Or is Putin trying to turn Russia back to into the USSR.

I’ve no idea how credible this is or what it really means: