Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

I'm confused, she suddenly has a problem with addressing complex issues with slogans? I had been under the impression that was her own forte...
I don't care about her other politics, especially in this thread, but she absolutely nailed it in explaining who those "pacifists" really are.
 
I don’t think this war was inevitable. There are no fundamental territorial or ethnic conflicts between Russia and Ukraine that are so significant that they would inevitably have led to war. This isn’t a fight over resources, either. That is why this war was avoidable and a negotiated solution was achievable.

Once the war kicks on then the calculus changes, positions harden and diplomatic solutions available before Feb 2022, are no longer on the table. I don't think a neutral Ukraine is a realistic option, simply because this would no longer be accepted by a large majority of the population in Ukraine.
This war can be ended tomorrow. Russia just needs to give back Crimea and the Eastern territories they are occupying.

That‘s what it is going to take.
 
I don’t think this war was inevitable. There are no fundamental territorial or ethnic conflicts between Russia and Ukraine that are so significant that they would inevitably have led to war. This isn’t a fight over resources, either. That is why this war was avoidable and a negotiated solution was achievable.

Once the war kicks on then the calculus changes, positions harden and diplomatic solutions available before Feb 2022, are no longer on the table. I don't think a neutral Ukraine is a realistic option, simply because this would no longer be accepted by a large majority of the population in Ukraine.

Every war is avoidable before it occurs. What made this one inevitable was Russia's inability to respect the self determination principle in Ukraine's part. As a paladin of freedom you should see that.

Anyway, as previous posts have suggested, both of the factors you mentioned are present in some way: the idea of a big, imperial Russia against the sovereignity and freedom of Ukranian people to decide how to govern themselves; and literally some of the most valuable fields in Europe and the whole world for food production, mineral extraction, oil and gas are in the middle of the conflict.
 
I don’t think this war was inevitable. There are no fundamental territorial or ethnic conflicts between Russia and Ukraine that are so significant that they would inevitably have led to war. This isn’t a fight over resources, either. That is why this war was avoidable and a negotiated solution was achievable.

Once the war kicks on then the calculus changes, positions harden and diplomatic solutions available before Feb 2022, are no longer on the table. I don't think a neutral Ukraine is a realistic option, simply because this would no longer be accepted by a large majority of the population in Ukraine.

:lol:
 
It's funny how absolutely every take supporting the proxy war, NATO expansion, Russia's hand forced etc. basically denies any agency from ukranian people, particularly in the last 10 years.

This is precisely the issue among Putin enablers. Everything is the west's fault and Ukrainians have zero agency to decide their own future. Nevermind that Ukrainians want to be a free democracy away from the grip of Putin's neo-imperialist authoritarianism.
 
I'm glad I have him on ignore. From time to time, if a new Russian propaganda parrot appears and starts talking about "peace", send him Meloni's speech. She absolutely nailed it in my opinion. I'm sorry for the music, but I didn't find another video.

Yeah, feck that fascist.
 
I don't care about her other politics, especially in this thread, but she absolutely nailed it in explaining who those "pacifists" really are.
While that may be true for you other people might see that speech in the context for her political career.

I.e it''s a bit like a speech by Blair screaming about how important it is to be honest.
 
This is precisely the issue among Putin enablers. Everything is the west's fault and Ukrainians have zero agency to decide their own future. Nevermind that Ukrainians want to be a free democracy away from the grip of Putin's neo-imperialist authoritarianism.

:lol:
 


Elon in shambles. There were a Kilo-class submarine and Ropucha-class landing ship in the drydocks this morning. Some other pictures show the ship engulfed in flames.

 
Sounds expensive. Presumably that's just at the current time and as the new sources come online in the west the gap will narrow?
But surely not closed. The west will never produce as much artillery ammo as the Russians, simply because they far less prioritise this type of weaponry.
 
Russia continues their grain terrorism and blackmail. Anyone who considers to ease Russian sanctions in order for them to return to the grain deal, is a Russian accomplice at this point.
 
Russian reserves running on fumes. They have to send their reserves 3 months in advance to the front. The next big mobilization wave is just a matter of time.
 
Because he wants more?

If he's really producing seven times more ammo than the West combined why does he need more? It's not a freebie remember, he's having to give up satellite technology and whatever else for this.
 
Russian reserves running on fumes. They have to send their reserves 3 months in advance to the front. The next big mobilization wave is just a matter of time.


Unfortunately, they only need to hold out for another month, if US assessment is correct, before weather comes to their aid.
 
Russian reserves running on fumes. They have to send their reserves 3 months in advance to the front. The next big mobilization wave is just a matter of time.

I'm not so sure about this as the tweet lacks the Russian perspective. And according to Russians Luhansk is part of Russia, so if they move those people to Luhansk they still are not deploying them to Ukraine. Nothing to see here, everything going according to plan ;)
 
If he's really producing seven times more ammo than the West combined why does he need more? It's not a freebie remember, he's having to give up satellite technology and whatever else for this.
Because maybe the West will increase their production?
 
Because maybe the West will increase their production?
In the end it doesn't even matter. Ammo itself is useless, you need guns to use it and you need to get it there. Ukraine has become very effective at hunting down artillery systems and logistic hubs, especially using (HI)MARS. The longer this keeps going the harder it will become for Russia to supply the frontline.
 
Weekly update on German deliveries:


So mostly a bit of ammunition and as standout 20 Marder IFV. Which interestingly seems to be the only Ukrainian IFV that still wasn't lost yet in action. Probably a coincidence but nonetheless nice to know.
 
So mostly a bit of ammunition and as standout 20 Marder IFV. Which interestingly seems to be the only Ukrainian IFV that still wasn't lost yet in action. Probably a coincidence but nonetheless nice to know.

Ukraine still keeps some newly formed brigades in reserve. We didn't see most of the Leopard 2 A4s in action either. They are waiting for a breakthrough to drive a steel hammer deep into Russian-occupied territory.


 
Unfortunately, they only need to hold out for another month, if US assessment is correct, before weather comes to their aid.

Because cold, wet and muddy trenches are going to benefit Russia? Personally I'm not sure "mud season" is going to be the benefit to Russia that some US journalists are hoping for.
 
Because cold, wet and muddy trenches are going to benefit Russia? Personally I'm not sure "mud season" is going to be the benefit to Russia that some US journalists are hoping for.

And logistics and supply-lines have hardly been Russia's specialty so far. Winter will stretch them further.
 
Because cold, wet and muddy trenches are going to benefit Russia? Personally I'm not sure "mud season" is going to be the benefit to Russia that some US journalists are hoping for.

No, but muddy roads do hamper vehicle movement, so unless you want ukrainians to kamikaze charge those trenches, it is going to benefit russians. They're about to mobilise another several hundred thousand troops and keep expanding on their existing fortifications.
 
No, but muddy roads do hamper vehicle movement, so unless you want ukrainians to kamikaze charge those trenches, it is going to benefit russians. They're about to mobilise another several hundred thousand troops and keep expanding on their existing fortifications.
But it can’t be the same stalemate as last year with the long range weapons now in play surely?
 
No, but muddy roads do hamper vehicle movement, so unless you want ukrainians to kamikaze charge those trenches, it is going to benefit russians. They're about to mobilise another several hundred thousand troops and keep expanding on their existing fortifications.

Well, things are slow enough moving already that it may not make a huge difference.
 
Ukraine still keeps some newly formed brigades in reserve.
True, but Marder were reportedly on the front, used by the same brigade that lost a Challenger 2. So I guess they just have been lucky.