Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Simbo said:
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Pretty certain people were saying they are too complex to use without proper training, a training which they received.

Btw, soviet SAM are even more complex to use, in terms of workload. A completely different type of complexity .
 
Some good actions out of France in the last days. Maybe Macron can grow a spine afterall. Let's see.
 
VorZakone said:
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Yeah, I was wondering about it earlier. The RA said they destroyed it or something, and I thought it must have hit somehow.

On the battlefield, the UA controls only a tiny area of the Bakhmut. I wonder how UA will deal with it. It would be great if the RA got encircled inside the city. They wanted it so much. Let them stay inside for a few weeks.
 
Bucha, 1 year apart....

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nimic said:
Casualties, surely, not deaths.
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It's surprising how more than a year later there is still confusion about those numbers, even on Reddit they are debating it.

Some Ukrainian media have specifically used the word "killed" in English translation but no one surely buys that those are KIA numbers.

Most likely they are total casualties.
 
VorZakone said:
It's surprising how more than a year later there is still confusion about those numbers, even on Reddit they are debating it.

Some Ukrainian media have specifically used the word "killed" in English translation but no one surely buys that those are KIA numbers.

Most likely they are total casualties.
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Given the tactics Russia have used in this war and how little they seem to care about human life, I don't think those numbers are far fetched at all.

The interviews, photos, videos seem to back that up. Russia have been sending their men in to waste ammo.
 
MTF said:
That's 100% Bucha nowdays?!
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That's the picture most of Ukrainian twitter accounts post under #bucha, so I trust them to be true.



Ukraine is still advancing on Bakhmut's flanks it seems. But the city itself is hanging by a thread. We could really see a retreat in the coming days. Wagner obliterates the last buildings under Ukrainian control.

 
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Ragnar123 said:
That's the picture most of Ukrainian twitter accounts post under #bucha, so I trust them to be true.



Ukraine is still advancing on Bakhmut's flanks it seems. But the city itself is hanging by a thread. We could really see a retreat in the coming days. Wagner obliterates the last buildings under Ukrainian control.

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I'm amazed.
 
So it's the 2nd time patriot system was directly targeted in like a week. I don't remember seeing anything like this with any other system. Why is that? Is it somehow easier to track compared to other systems, or is it something to do with the squad operating it? Like, someone is posting too much shite on social media, or some rat?
 
dove said:
So it's the 2nd time patriot system was directly targeted in like a week. I don't remember seeing anything like this with any other system. Why is that? Is it somehow easier to track compared to other systems, or is it something to do with the squad operating it? Like, someone is posting too much shite on social media, or some rat?
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As for the tracking , well its high powered radar , its not difficult to pinpoint with the right equipment.
 
The Firestarter said:
As for the tracking , well its high powered radar , its not difficult to pinpoint with the right equipment.
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Yes but all of them have radars but it seems that (or is it a coincidence?) patriots are somehow easier to pinpoint.
 
dove said:
So it's the 2nd time patriot system was directly targeted in like a week. I don't remember seeing anything like this with any other system. Why is that? Is it somehow easier to track compared to other systems, or is it something to do with the squad operating it? Like, someone is posting too much shite on social media, or some rat?
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Probably because of its high value: there are just a few of them in action, they can block Russia's best rockets, and they could put in Russian TV for weeks how great Russian missiles are and how they destroyed Patriot.
 
dove said:
Yes but all of them have radars but it seems that (or is it a coincidence?) patriots are somehow easier to pinpoint.
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Apparently, Russians have had years to scope for the Patriot signals in Poland, I guess they’ve become good at it. Also, as others have said the system is emitting very powerful signals.
 
dove said:
So it's the 2nd time patriot system was directly targeted in like a week. I don't remember seeing anything like this with any other system. Why is that? Is it somehow easier to track compared to other systems, or is it something to do with the squad operating it? Like, someone is posting too much shite on social media, or some rat?
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Due to the high speed of ballistic missiles the response time when intercepting them is much shorter compared to cruise missiles and jets, this means that systems like Patriot and SAMP/T needs to have their radars turned on all the time.
Short and medium range systems like NASAMS and IRIS-T that are intended for slower targets have more time to react and usually keep their radars off until a target is about to enter their area of protection.
The Patriot radar is also very strong which means it puts out a massive electromagnetic signature that should be easier to locate compared to weaker radars.
 
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dove said:
So it's the 2nd time patriot system was directly targeted in like a week. I don't remember seeing anything like this with any other system. Why is that? Is it somehow easier to track compared to other systems, or is it something to do with the squad operating it? Like, someone is posting too much shite on social media, or some rat?
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It is a valuable weapon, as others have stated.

But I believe there is more. Destroying high-value American weapon systems would provide them with some good propaganda. There were a lot of people on Twitter talking about how bad it was and how it shot down more friendly planes than enemy planes though.
 
Ragnar123 said:
Bucha, 1 year apart....

FwRiG8DWAAAU12L
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Bucha might be reconstructed and might be impressive but this picture is not true. The bottom picture is from before the war and you can see it clearly on the 4 trees in the left. you can see that there is one destroyed completely and one that is almost gone. You can reconstruct buildings, asphalt and other infrastructures, but not trees this size (you can, but don't see the point)
 
4bars said:
Bucha might be reconstructed and might be impressive but this picture is not true. The bottom picture is from before the war and you can see it clearly on the 4 trees in the left. you can see that there is one destroyed completely and one that is almost gone. You can reconstruct buildings, asphalt and other infrastructures, but not trees this size (you can, but don't see the point)
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Disagree sans further evidence. In all honesty it looks like the first picture was just taken from slightly further up the road. That and focal length are the reason why there is no discernible dip in the road in the first picture while there is in the second.

If I'm right then the two trees on the left hand side in the first image are at best the 3rd and 4th trees on the left hand side in the second. The planted trees in the second then make up the big gap where the trees were destroyed in the first. In fact it might well be that every tree you can see in the first image was destroyed and replaced. I'd contend it has to be this way because otherwise there would be no gap large enough in the first picture for the trees to be planted in in the second.

Edit: It's not perfect but I've made a handy visual for where I think the photo was taken:

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To conclude: Bucha is reconstructed and it is impressive and this picture is absolutely true (I think)!
 
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