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What would Kenny G do?
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So how does this affect water supply in Crimea then?
At some point, enough has to be enough.
Every Soviet style dam is constructed with secret critical spots to place explosives in that allow the quick collapse of the structure , for usage in war.Here's an article about what might happen if the dam is blown. Looking at the maps, the East bank (southern at this point) is much lower lying than the West bank so the Russians will bear the brunt of the damage. It seems that Kherson will only have minor flooding in a few areas, while the Russian-occupied side will be inundated. The major issue could be the nuclear plant losing the water that cools it, which I guess could force the Russians to abandon it to let Ukraine deal with it.
https://cornucopia.se/2022/10/worst-case-modelling-for-nova-kakhovka-dam-break/
I'm also curious how they could've done this since it would take quite the hit to blow the dam.
Every Soviet style dam is constructed with secret critical spots to place explosives in that allow the quick collapse of the structure , for usage in war.
It's not only there, the same applies to a lot of infrastructure in West Germany that was build during the Cold War. It's a common strategic planning that you want to be able to easily destroy roads the enemy could use.Interesting, got a source for that?
Only talks with civil engineers in my country, which is not ex Soviet but ex Soviet bloc. I am not aware of any public doc.Interesting, got a source for that?
at which point do western nations take the step of branding Russia a terrorist state?
at which point do western nations take the step of branding Russia a terrorist state?
What does deporting the Russian nationals (many of then tend to be highly educated and despise Putin) achieve?Should go fully gloves off at this point. Suspend any remaining business with Russia. Deport all Russian nationals. Freeze/claim all Russian assets in EU countries incl. real estate.
What does deporting the Russian nationals (many of then tend to be highly educated and despise Putin) achieve?
No not in Finland but bridges here are built with ready made places for explosives. But no explosives are placed there in peace time.Finland have something like this too.
Yeah lets send people who want to get away from a bad situation back into it.Revolution,
Non-action is tacit approval.
It’s not enough to grumble on the sidelines. Power is cyclic, only when the momentum turns the other way will this end.
Go do something about Russian nationals.
No not in Finland but bridges here are built with ready made places for explosives. But no explosives are placed there in peace time.
I completely disagree with this take.Revolution,
Non-action is tacit approval.
It’s not enough to grumble on the sidelines. Power is cyclic, only when the momentum turns the other way will this end.
Go do something about Russian nationals.
Until I think 2014 switzerland had explosives in all bridges at borders and some other objects. So i would assume that a lot of countries do something similar.
Yes. The Alpine tunnels are designed to be destroyed too. Can't have anybody stealing all the money
Quite a few countries have similar I think. Finland already mentioned, and Singapore has its highway runways.
Ah yes, that's what I meant.No not in Finland but bridges here are built with ready made places for explosives. But no explosives are placed there in peace time.
How is a highway that doubles as a tarmac same as a easily destructible infrastructure? Or you meant something else.Yes. The Alpine tunnels are designed to be destroyed too. Can't have anybody stealing all the money
Quite a few countries have similar I think. Finland already mentioned, and Singapore has its highway runways.
This was something much publicised earlier in the war, that the Ukrainian's feared Russia would blow the dam, so I assume they would have planned for this scenario.
Yes of course, every military in the world will be aware of it as a strategic option. I mean specifically with regards to this dam being blown. This is all from last year:I fairly sure Ukraine flooded some areas north of Kiev in the first days of the war. Not sure if they specifically blew a dam, but they’ll surely have been aware of it as a defensive tactic if they’ve done similar themselves.
How is a highway that doubles as a tarmac same as a easily destructible infrastructure? Or you meant something else.
Russia has destroyed some more Leopards.
Sweden has designed all jets rugged enough to take off from roads too.More that lots of countries have last stand measures in place. Switzerland also has the highway runways, and they used to have about 1,000 bridges and tunnels permanently rigged with explosives. They took the explosives away a few years ago but they could be put back if needed.
Russia has destroyed some more Leopards.
Yeah lets send people who want to get away from a bad situation back into it.
Yep, let them overthrow the taliban, take on some responsibility.Maybe we can send some Afghan refugees back to the Taliban while we’re at it