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A concern for Western militaries is that the longer this drags on the more Russia learn. They've gone from being a total joke at the start to quite capable in some areas, and every time we use Western equipment against them they learn a little bit more about how it works. A breakthrough needs to come.
 
If I am not mistaken that is an F15, which Germany does not have. And the missile below could be anything.
You are right, in the article it says: A South Korean Air Force F-15K fighter jet flying with a Taurus long-range air-to-surface missile during an exercise.

Which leads us to the issue that Taurus isn't used with any jet Ukraine currently has or soon should get. It's probably easier to integrate into an F-16 than into a MiG-29, but still it would need some effort.
 
A concern for Western militaries is that the longer this drags on the more Russia learn. They've gone from being a total joke at the start to quite capable in some areas, and every time we use Western equipment against them they learn a little bit more about how it works. A breakthrough needs to come.

From reports of the last weeks and months it becomes clear, that only those seemingly endless minefields are stopping big advances. Everything else Ukraine is able to handle pretty well. Yes Russia learns how to operate drones better and they stopped throwing columns forward, but on the other hand their artillery became very quiet in comparison to 2022. I'm pretty sure only those minefields hold their entire southern front together.
 
From reports of the last weeks and months it becomes clear, that only those seemingly endless minefields are stopping big advances. Everything else Ukraine is able to handle pretty well. Yes Russia learns how to operate drones better and they stopped throwing columns forward, but on the other hand their artillery became very quiet in comparison to 2022. I'm pretty sure only those minefields hold their entire southern front together.

They're also learning how to jam Western missiles and guided artillery and get around missile defences.
 
From reports of the last weeks and months it becomes clear, that only those seemingly endless minefields are stopping big advances. Everything else Ukraine is able to handle pretty well. Yes Russia learns how to operate drones better and they stopped throwing columns forward, but on the other hand their artillery became very quiet in comparison to 2022. I'm pretty sure only those minefields hold their entire southern front together.


That's a very good topic as whole about the situation and why not even any other Western* army wouldn't be faster in their advance in the South of Ukraine as they are atm.

Only to advance fast in these conditions is to have 100-200 modern fighter jets on the air daily just bombing the enemy fortifications without any missiles to spare, just carpet bomb and that might not even be enough to deny the minefields, just to give more support.
 
Optics wise, and based on a very limited number of sound bites I’ve seen (posted on here) he seems to be one of the very, very few republicans who has not gone completely insane. I may be wrong of course.
He‘s a regular Republican, an asshole but not a complete raging lunatic.

Moderate republicans are far and few between now, you know the ones that are true conservatives with values, who respect the law. I don‘t count Christie as one, he is an opportunist.
 
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A concern for Western militaries is that the longer this drags on the more Russia learn. They've gone from being a total joke at the start to quite capable in some areas, and every time we use Western equipment against them they learn a little bit more about how it works. A breakthrough needs to come.
I'm not sure that's true at all. I'd wager any professional army could do what they're doing now if they had the numbers (and probably vice versa for Ukraine) because it's simply modern day trench warfare but with them having the advantage of having more soldiers, artillery and airpower. I don't really see how they could mess this situation up unless UA either gets way more artillery delivered and can start to out gun them (unlikely) or can establish air control (which seems even more unlikely). I know there's been a lot of media spin and positivity but realistically what can UA do apart from what it's doing and maybe after years they will be able to reshape the frontline in their favour.
 
I'm not sure that's true at all. I'd wager any professional army could do what they're doing now if they had the numbers (and probably vice versa for Ukraine) because it's simply modern day trench warfare but with them having the advantage of having more soldiers, artillery and airpower. I don't really see how they could mess this situation up unless UA either gets way more artillery delivered and can start to out gun them (unlikely) or can establish air control (which seems even more unlikely). I know there's been a lot of media spin and positivity but realistically what can UA do apart from what it's doing and maybe after years they will be able to reshape the frontline in their favour.

I don't mean in the context of the Ukraine war but a potential future conflict with Nato. They are learning how to neutralise a chunk of the Western military arsenal.
 
I don't mean in the context of the Ukraine war but a potential future conflict with Nato. They are learning how to neutralise a chunk of the Western military arsenal.
Are they? Most reports seem to suggest the western arms they don’t have an answer for, the issue is there’s not enough.
 
Are they? Most reports seem to suggest the western arms they don’t have an answer for, the issue is there’s not enough.

They are now jamming our missile guidance systems, figuring out how to overwhelm air defences, and have learned how to effectively target our armour. Small stuff but it adds up, although we will also be learning a lot about them.
 
They are now jamming our missile guidance systems, figuring out how to overwhelm air defences, and have learned how to effectively target our armour. Small stuff but it adds up, although we will also be learning a lot about them.
I'm by no means going to pretend to be an expert but couldn't they do all this pre war? Re tanks, I don't think there's anything special about western MBTs other than they are higher quality and will have better armour, reliability, weapons etc. but if you hit it with an anti tank missile or mine it'll still be fecked. I do think the drone expertise is valuable for sure and I guess all warfare is valuable experience to a point but I am not sure it gives a huge insight into NATO unless it's just a very basic level because UA has only been NATO trained in recent memory and hadn't used half the stuff they're using now until a year ago or less.
 
I'm by no means going to pretend to be an expert but couldn't they do all this pre war? Re tanks, I don't think there's anything special about western MBTs other than they are higher quality and will have better armour, reliability, weapons etc. but if you hit it with an anti tank missile or mine it'll still be fecked. I do think the drone expertise is valuable for sure and I guess all warfare is valuable experience to a point but I am not sure it gives a huge insight into NATO unless it's just a very basic level because UA has only been NATO trained in recent memory and hadn't used half the stuff they're using now until a year ago or less.

They knew some but there is no substitute for combat experience, its decades since theyve been up against modern Western kit. For example the missiles, they now know the flight profiles and how and when to jam them, before it was just theory. A modern tank is immune to anti tank weapons from certain directions but now we've seen how they behave and how to defeat them in a real fight. Its all valuable intelligence for both sides.
 
They knew some but there is no substitute for combat experience, its decades since theyve been up against modern Western kit. For example the missiles, they now know the flight profiles and how and when to jam them, before it was just theory. A modern tank is immune to anti tank weapons from certain directions but now we've seen how they behave and how to defeat them in a real fight. Its all valuable intelligence for both sides.

Have I missed some info about the missiles? Storm shadows have been continuously slamming into key targets all over Crimea the last week or so.
 
Have I missed some info about the missiles? Storm shadows have been continuously slamming into key targets all over Crimea the last week or so.

I don't know about the storm shadow, it might be too new to the battlefield. The jdam bombs and himars rockets are becoming more and more ineffective now. They still work but they're not hitting with any accuracy.
 
I don't know about the storm shadow, it might be too new to the battlefield. The jdam bombs and himars rockets are becoming more and more ineffective now. They still work but they're not hitting with any accuracy.
What is this based on? Russia can't alter the accuracy of an enemy missile, they can try and stop it (which they don't seem to be able to do well yet) or they can just move their high value target s further back (which is what they have done)
 
They knew some but there is no substitute for combat experience, its decades since theyve been up against modern Western kit. For example the missiles, they now know the flight profiles and how and when to jam them, before it was just theory. A modern tank is immune to anti tank weapons from certain directions but now we've seen how they behave and how to defeat them in a real fight. Its all valuable intelligence for both sides.
While I do generally agree, I have to ask: which modern tanks? Ukraine did not receive any truly modern models.
 
What is this based on? Russia can't alter the accuracy of an enemy missile
For examply jamming the GPS signal to misdirect it is effective electronic warfare that receives exactly that result.
 
For examply jamming the GPS signal to misdirect it is effective electronic warfare that receives exactly that result.
My understanding is in any war you have to keep changing the software in a missile because the enemy will constantly be updating theirs to combat it? Like a computer virus versus anti virus software. Or are you saying they have been highly successful doing it? I might have missed something but hadn't seen any news of that kind.
 
What is this based on? Russia can't alter the accuracy of an enemy missile, they can try and stop it (which they don't seem to be able to do well yet) or they can just move their high value target s further back (which is what they have done)

They can interrupt the GPS signal in the local area which means it either flies blind or has to rely on less accurate inertial guidance. It is a cat and mouse game with missile software to some extent but fecking with the GPS signal is a bit of a trump card.
 
If anyone has a morbid curiosity to re-read how the invasion unfolded, it starts at page 110 of this thread.
 
I'm not sure that's true at all. I'd wager any professional army could do what they're doing now if they had the numbers (and probably vice versa for Ukraine) because it's simply modern day trench warfare but with them having the advantage of having more soldiers, artillery and airpower. I don't really see how they could mess this situation up unless UA either gets way more artillery delivered and can start to out gun them (unlikely) or can establish air control (which seems even more unlikely). I know there's been a lot of media spin and positivity but realistically what can UA do apart from what it's doing and maybe after years they will be able to reshape the frontline in their favour.
Really doubt it if they don't get support from the 'West' for 'years'.

The below clip has some perspectives about the support, the politics and the counterattack.



As for people talking about the U.S. tanks changing the battle field, retired officers have said that they won't help with tons of mines around at all. Plus, they needed, like, hundreds of tanks to make a difference.

Gen. Hertling said in the other clip that combining arms with the air force is not easy. It is PhD-level hard. Training pilots takes time, and combining both air and ground will take a very long time. Some of the noise lately from the 'West' has been saying that UA did ditch the "Western" style combat and went back to the Soviet style, aka focusing and relying on artillery, whereas the UA side said it was necessary as they didn't have enough equipment anyway. He also said that people believed that the RA did not have air superiority due to the UA's air defense on the front line. But it will flip on the UA when they have some more planes to fly around because the electronic warfare has been very good on both sides to have either side have air superiority.
 
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While I do generally agree, I have to ask: which modern tanks? Ukraine did not receive any truly modern models.

They have a small number of Leopard 2A6s. They got but haven't yet used Challenger 2s and are getting M1s. I know they've had some of the secretive stuff taken off them but they are still as new as it gets in the tank world.
 
Lots of noise today sbout Ukrainians crossing the Dnipro. Extremely unclear how that unfolds, but there definitely was a lot of artillery fire today. Let's see how that unfolds.
 
They have a small number of Leopard 2A6s.
As I said, not the most modern stuff. The A6 was introduced in 2001. Since then the Bundeswehr bought these versions:
A6M (increased mine protection)
A7 (increased optics, electronics, ABC protection etc, ongoing in the A7V)
A7V
A7A1 (active protection system "Trophy")

And if you order a new one you will get an A8. So yes, it is reasonably recent, but a lot of it's systems is outdated or simply bot existing compared to newer models.
 
Ukraine’s security service, the SBU, attributed the attack to the infamous hacking group known as Sandworm, working on behalf of the Russia’s military intelligence agency. The SBU said it was able to stop the operation during the planning phase.

 
Imo this conflict won't end if you provide juuuuuuust enough weapons to defend yourself. For change it needs everything NATO has to offer. Atm it's all pointless