Russia's at it again

It's my take on sources within intelligence community saying to the press that Russians are everywhere and previous admin being too lax about the threats.
 
It's my take on sources within intelligence community saying to the press that Russians are everywhere and previous admin being too lax about the threats.

Sounds like a completely rational assessment given that the Russians just finished a campaign to interfere in US elections. The U.S. would be smart to beef up their intelligence, counter-intelligence, and military capabilities.
 
Having already played an influential role in the US presidential election, it looks as though Germany is the next target for Russian skulduggery.

Can anything be done to stop this? Or is Putin going to be allowed to troll the whole planet?

You think putin can pull this against the usa if it's lead by a proper politician?

He can only do this because it's drumpf
 
Are you saying the CIA are not engaged in propaganda?
Not particularly within America; their job is quite the opposite.

There are propaganda arms of the US government, but they are housed in different institutions. One of which was in the news suddenly when it had its budget slashed by the current president, per the norm.
 
Not particularly within America; their job is quite the opposite.

There are propaganda arms of the US government, but they are housed in different institutions. One of which was in the news suddenly when it had its budget slashed by the current president, per the norm.
So they are just incompetent then? That's why they get information wrong that beats the war drums. And discrediting WikiLeaks continuously with falsehoods as one of their later achievements.
 
So they are just incompetent then? That's why they get information wrong that beats the war drums. And discrediting WikiLeaks continuously with falsehoods as one of their later achievements.

Are you at all educated on what the CIA does ?
 
Propaganda, assassinations, torture, intelligence gathering, political operations, technical development, developing cyber weapons. The list is long.

You need to watch less movies and actually have a look at what intelligence agencies do.
 
You need to watch less movies and actually have a look at what intelligence agencies do.
Which ones do you dispute?
CIA themselves admits to most of the points including assassinations and torture. The drone warfare is one example of CIA taking out targets without transparency and outside of conflict zones. Death penalty without trial. Of course their name for it would be counter terrorism.
 
Which ones do you dispute?
CIA themselves admits to most of the points including assassinations and torture. The drone warfare is one example of CIA taking out targets without transparency and outside of conflict zones. Death penalty without trial. Of course their name for it would be counter terrorism.

You're cherry picking to paint a grim picture of what you think the CIA is.

In a nutshell, its an intelligence agency that collects human intelligence to provide policy makers with the best available information so they can make more informed policy decisions. The fact that nearly all its work is clandestine seems to create some bizarre perceptions among people on the outside who get their information from dodgy sources like films and anti-American news outlets.
 
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Journalistic integrity is of course not the cause of CNN's increasing profits. If they are right it seems russia do more against policy brutality in America than both Obama and obviously Trump who seems to encourage it.
 
It’s definitely possible that Russia is getting the blame for a whole bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with them and they are putting a lot of resources into online campaigns to cause political instability in the west. Just because the former is happening doesn’t mean we should ignore the latter.
 
It’s definitely possible that Russia is getting the blame for a whole bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with them and they are putting a lot of resources into online campaigns to cause political instability in the west. Just because the former is happening doesn’t mean we should ignore the latter.

Its likely both. They have been engaged in an active measures campaign to disrupt Democracy in Europe and the U.S. for some time now, probably because Putin realized that he has hackers and troll farms at his disposal who can do this sort of thing fairly clandestinely without directly implicating him. All this at a time when he is facing his own problems at home, both economically by way of sanctions and a low oil price, as well as politically by way of next year's Presidential elections where he is incentivized to portray the alternative of Democracy as chaotic and unstable.
 
Its likely both. They have been engaged in an active measures campaign to disrupt Democracy in Europe and the U.S. for some time now, probably because Putin realized that he has hackers and troll farms at his disposal who can do this sort of thing fairly clandestinely without directly implicating him. All this at a time when he is facing his own problems at home, both economically by way of sanctions and a low oil price, as well as politically by way of next year's Presidential elections where he is incentivized to portray the alternative of Democracy as chaotic and unstable.

Indeed. He's always been acutely sensitive to user-generated online content and more than willing to break the law to gain control of the narrative.
 
Sergei Skripal is a retired Russian military intelligence (GRU) colonel who was sentenced in 2006 to 13 years in prison, accused of spying for Britain.

He was convicted, and later pardoned, for passing the identities of Russian secret agents in Europe to the UK's Secret Intelligence Service (MI6).

Russia claimed MI6 had paid him $100,000 for the information, which he had been supplying since the 1990s.

But he was one of four prisoners Moscow swapped for spies in the US in 2010.

Col Skripal, now believed to be 66, was later flown to Britain.

Col Skripal was convicted of "high treason in the form of espionage" by Moscow's military court in August 2006. He was stripped of all his titles and awards.

He was alleged by the Russian security service (FSB) to have begun working for the British secret services while serving in the army in the 1990s.

He had been passing information classified as state secrets and been paid for the work by MI6, the FSB claimed.

Col Skripal pleaded guilty at his trial and co-operated with investigators, reports said at the time.

In July 2010, Col Skripal was pardoned by Russia's then-President Dmitry Medvedev.

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So he was arrested, convicted, pardoned and later swapped. What was the point of killing him years later when they had no use for him anymore?
 
So he was arrested, convicted, pardoned and later swapped. What was the point of killing him years later when they had no use for him anymore?

Probably to send out the message that anyone that crosses Putin/Russia will meet with a viscious end. Rule by fear etc
 
Read both wife and son died in car crashes in Russia, five years apart.
What are the chances?:rolleyes: