Blodssvik
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It's my take on sources within intelligence community saying to the press that Russians are everywhere and previous admin being too lax about the threats.
It's my take on sources within intelligence community saying to the press that Russians are everywhere and previous admin being too lax about the threats.
So the CIA says they need more resources because the Russians are swarming. It may well be that spy games are escalating but anything that comes from the CIA propaganda machine should be taken with a wheelbarrow of salt.
Are you saying the CIA are not engaged in propaganda?
Having already played an influential role in the US presidential election, it looks as though Germany is the next target for Russian skulduggery.
Can anything be done to stop this? Or is Putin going to be allowed to troll the whole planet?
Are you saying the CIA are not engaged in propaganda?
Having already played an influential role in the US presidential election, it looks as though Germany is the next target for Russian skulduggery.
Can anything be done to stop this? Or is Putin going to be allowed to troll the whole planet?
Not particularly within America; their job is quite the opposite.Are you saying the CIA are not engaged in propaganda?
So they are just incompetent then? That's why they get information wrong that beats the war drums. And discrediting WikiLeaks continuously with falsehoods as one of their later achievements.Not particularly within America; their job is quite the opposite.
There are propaganda arms of the US government, but they are housed in different institutions. One of which was in the news suddenly when it had its budget slashed by the current president, per the norm.
So they are just incompetent then? That's why they get information wrong that beats the war drums. And discrediting WikiLeaks continuously with falsehoods as one of their later achievements.
You think putin can pull this against the usa if it's lead by a proper politician?
He can only do this because it's drumpf
Propaganda, assassinations, torture, intelligence gathering, political operations, technical development, developing cyber weapons. The list is long.
Which ones do you dispute?You need to watch less movies and actually have a look at what intelligence agencies do.
Which ones do you dispute?
CIA themselves admits to most of the points including assassinations and torture. The drone warfare is one example of CIA taking out targets without transparency and outside of conflict zones. Death penalty without trial. Of course their name for it would be counter terrorism.
Serial killers live normal lives doing normal stuff most days too.
Are you at all educated on what the CIA does ?
Well, yeah, but that's missing the point of what we're discussing.Kidnapping foreing citizens and torturing them in secret prisons across the world beyond the reach of the American judicial and military legal systems? Would that be a part of what it does?
http://pubrecord.org/torture/7326/two-dozen-countries-complicit-torture/
and there's so much we don't know yet
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/us/politics/cia-torture-report-trump.html?smid=tw-share
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It’s definitely possible that Russia is getting the blame for a whole bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with them and they are putting a lot of resources into online campaigns to cause political instability in the west. Just because the former is happening doesn’t mean we should ignore the latter.
Its likely both. They have been engaged in an active measures campaign to disrupt Democracy in Europe and the U.S. for some time now, probably because Putin realized that he has hackers and troll farms at his disposal who can do this sort of thing fairly clandestinely without directly implicating him. All this at a time when he is facing his own problems at home, both economically by way of sanctions and a low oil price, as well as politically by way of next year's Presidential elections where he is incentivized to portray the alternative of Democracy as chaotic and unstable.
So he was arrested, convicted, pardoned and later swapped. What was the point of killing him years later when they had no use for him anymore?