Cough right back in their faces and say “jokes on you I’ve actually got the virus”.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Cough right back in their faces and say “jokes on you I’ve actually got the virus”.
I think I’d break the golden rule of thumping a girl
May be useful to do some downloads over the night and stock up on some programmes/books for the next day/week.
So. Have they exposed a recovered patient to the virus yet, to see if he developed immunity? I still see this being regurgitated, almost as fact, but I'm yet to see any real data from a reliable source that confirms or shed light on it. Any links or updates on this?
That would be a golden blunder and you don't want that.
Probably. I think that the second version of SIFT was rejected several times too, but that was a long time ago. GAN paper was barely published (had a reject from Schmidhuber), and in general nowadays the majority of papers who get accepted get accepted in second/third attempt (effectively making the reviewing process 1year+, which is close to that of journals in other fields).
Same happens for Nature/Science (other fields). With the review process not being double-blinded, there are cases when a paper gets rejected, to only add a big name author, resubmit it and get accepted. So, it is a very imperfect process.
No I know but if they did that to my wife or kids I wouldn’t be able to hold back
It would actually be sexist not to do it in that circumstance.
On the one hand I look at these hoarders and breakers and am utterly disgusted by the callous self serving nature of them. On the other hand it's no secret that we live in Tory/Trump land so it's sort of ingrained, to be outraged is to be not really paying attention.
I probably shouldn't, but:
FAO techno-thriller loving dabbling conspiracy theorists
(the virus shipped to the Canadian lab is not covid19; it's almost certainly MERS)
At the end of the day, he's a tech-head; judging from his other answers, it seems he's a proponent of the higher-tech aggressive testing and 45 day-ish peaking and immediate rebound detection going on in the Asian countries. AKA don't fatalistically assume broad scale infection; see if you can't stamp it out and then block the borders.
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3rd person died in Ireland.
Reading through her daughter's twitter feed, she says her mother (who was 88 with loads of underlying conditions) hadn't been outside the door since February as she was immobile. Only six people in contact with her since, none of whom showed any symptoms. Scary stuff.
Reading through her daughter's twitter feed, she says her mother (who was 88 with loads of underlying conditions) hadn't been outside the door since February as she was immobile. Only six people in contact with her since, none of whom showed any symptoms. Scary stuff.
To be fair some people don’t realise they have it, so it’s possible one of the six people had it.
Nearly every new page you state an opinion you have like it's a fact, then as soon as anyone disproves or calls you out on something, it's just pivot to the next thing. You should have gone into politics.
Oh yeah, I'm sure one of them did. I more meant it's scary that you could be feeling absolutely fine but still end up fatally infecting someone. Underlines the importance of keeping distance from the vulnerable but in this case someone had to be in contact with her as she needed care. What can you do but hope you don't have it?
Only 3 deaths from 366 cases is still pretty good though. Less than 1% mortality rate in Ireland, so far.
That reply. Gold.
Lots of chatter on Tinternet and Watsapp that full military lockdown Friday onwards. General public to be told Thursday night to avoid panic and panic buying.
Might be just rumors though.
Might be just rumors though.
8k cases already in US 
What is the expected real case multiplier ? 10?
What is the expected real case multiplier ? 10?Germany has 0.23% fatality rate, by far the lowest from all countries with over 1000 infections. I am saying this every day, but this is extremely weird and I am surprised why no one (researchers, media) are not talking about this. They either don't know to count, or there is something more going on. Which as of now, I see four possibilities (in decreasing order of likelihood):
1) They are counting deaths differently. In Italy, if you are 100 years old and have all three of cancer, AIDS and diabates, and then get covid19 and die, you still count a death from covid19. Is this true for Germany or not?
2) They are doing more testings than other countries (apparently), so maybe their number is correct, while the number of other countries is wrong. So if Germany has same cases as Spain, but 20-30 times less deaths, then the real number of infected people in Spain is 20-30 times higher. This is very good news for the world, it means that the virus is much less lethal than we thought.
3) The virus there has mutated to something less lethal. Why only there?
4) Beer is superior to wine. Germans drink beer, Italians, Spanish and French drink wine.
1) They are counting deaths differently. In Italy, if you are 100 years old and have all three of cancer, AIDS and diabates, and then get covid19 and die, you still count a death from covid19. Is this true for Germany or not?
2) They are doing more testings than other countries (apparently), so maybe their number is correct, while the number of other countries is wrong. So if Germany has same cases as Spain, but 20-30 times less deaths, then the real number of infected people in Spain is 20-30 times higher. This is very good news for the world, it means that the virus is much less lethal than we thought.
3) The virus there has mutated to something less lethal. Why only there?
4) Beer is superior to wine. Germans drink beer, Italians, Spanish and French drink wine.
Its 1)
Interesting.
Sorry for all the questions.. but:
How would they know you aren't just saying your going for groceries or generally lying about what you're doing though? Also, have they specified what physical activities are allowed? Golf can be quite isolating...
They dont. I'm in Italy and we have the same system, but we have been in it for nearly 2 weeks now. Its partly based on trust.
You can go for a run or to walk the dog but that's about it. Cycling is discouraged because if you have an accident they may not be able to help you.
edit: here is the government webpage advising what you can and cannot do (Google translate works well if you have it installed in your browser): http://www.governo.it/it/faq-iorestoacasa / https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.governo.it/it/faq-iorestoacasa
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The mean age of the infected and preexisting conditions might be lower than Italy.
There was also a report that Germany has more ventilators and medical support than other countries for some reason and they are capable of donating some and still be self sufficient.
The fact that the Czech Republic, which has the highest beer consumption in the world, has no deaths yet would support that theory.
some other possible factors;
the general health of the population
age demographics
healthcare facilities
Italy getting caught on the hop / Germany having more time to prepare
variance (just bad/good luck on which demographics it spread to first)
I'd say 2 is the biggest factor though, which would reassuringly mean Germany is closest to the true figure (whilst they may both be outliers)
1 will probably play a part but 2 is definitely true as well. In Poland we have 5 deaths from 250 cases but it seems that a lot more people are infected. I posted the story about infant falling out the window yesterday and entire family testing positive afterwards - that was a random accident, they’d not have been tested otherwise. Last night a doctor committed suicide, they tested him and showed positive as well. Plenty of random people testing positive.
US have 9k cases and 7 of them are NBA players. 7 in a random population of 450 players tested positive, that’s 1.6% of the league yet 0.003% of entire population. I know it’s a small sample and all but I honestly expect the real number of cases to be much higher.
Is this lock down actually happening.
I've heard nothing else all night and to be honest I'm fed up with my boss moaning he doesn't want people to work from home because of lack of productive work!!!!
The point is it's protecting people, if he doesn't trust us (proven by this situation) then long lerm I'm gone once it picks up again.
I've grown to hate people I work for through this drama.
I've heard nothing else all night and to be honest I'm fed up with my boss moaning he doesn't want people to work from home because of lack of productive work!!!!
The point is it's protecting people, if he doesn't trust us (proven by this situation) then long lerm I'm gone once it picks up again.
I've grown to hate people I work for through this drama.
Yeah, this is why the media spin shitting on the government for not immeadiatly employing a ”suppression” strategy, as if it is the clear and obvious path out of here, is so misguided. The report is clear that their modelling suggests this whole situation is worse than we previously imagined and we would have to keep up these intense “suppression” measures until a vaccine is found, which could realistically be 18 months, maybe allowing a month of relaxed measures every so often.
At least Bill Gates thinks the assumptions in the Imperial modelling were a bit too harsh and the latest data from China could see a more optimistic revision. Will people shit on the government if strategy than changes again accordingly?
Don't South Korea also have a death rate in the same ball park?
The most striking thing about the German stats is how few people are critical. They might have loads of ventilators but they’re not using them. Yet.
To me the biggest unknown variable is time. How long the virus has been endemic in a country. It seems to take several weeks before the really sick get really sick. So in the first few weeks after the virus reaches a country the mortality rate will be very low. I suspect it’s been endemic in Italy much longer than in any other European country (via their links to Chinese factories)
This seems to be a common theme at the moment. Bosses showing their true colours.
If they can't trust people to work from home then their business won't last very long in this new world.
If I worked in an office and the boss told me to come in even though I could work from home I'd tell him where to go
Where can I find the stats for critical cases within Germany?
Thanks in advance for sharing.
Not home, presumably.
0.23% is actually still pretty high isn’t it?
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Only 2 serious/critical cases at the moment, apparently.
They are around 0.7-0.8. They are also doing a lot of testing (even more than Germany). It could be that countries with more testings are having lower mortality rate, simply because they count more people as infected (by testing them in the first place), while those that do not do many testing, have a higher mortality rate (cause they detect only people who are sick).
If so, that is very good news. If the virus is 3-4 times less lethal than we think it is, then that is great.
Yes very high. And the number of people who need care/ICUs is still way beyond capacity.